7 Pretrib Problems and the Prewrath Rapture (Full Movie)

Introduction

The introduction provides an overview of the rapture debate and the purpose of the documentary.

Rapture Timing Positions

• Most rapture views teach that the end times are played out over a period of seven years.

• Pre-tribulationists believe the rapture can begin at any moment but whenever it does happen, it will prove to be just before the seven-year period begins.

• Mid-tribulationists believe the rapture occurs at the mid-point of the seven-year period.

• Post-tribulationists believe the rapture occurs at the very end of the seven-year period.

• Pre-wrath view teaches that the rapture occurs at some unknown time after the midpoint.

Changes in Rapture Theology

This section discusses how pre-tribulational theology has changed over time due to criticisms from scholars holding to pre-wrath position on rapture.

Shift in Pre-Tribulational Theology

• Over time, there have been major shifts in pre-tribulational theology due to criticisms from scholars holding to pre-wrath position on rapture.

• Scholars teaching pre-tribulationism 20 or 30 years ago would not recognize what is being taught in seminaries today.

The Popularity of Pre-Wrath Position

This section discusses how pre-wrath position has gained popularity over mid tribulation position and its impact on theological debates.

Popularity of Pre-Wrath Position

• Pre-wrath position has massively gained in popularity in the last 30 years, overtaking the mid-tribulation position by a significant amount.

• Most of this debate has taken place among scholars in theological journals and university lecture halls.

• The average Christian does not engage with this debate, and most pastors are not aware of the intricate arguments that theologians have been wrestling with.

Understanding Rapture Timing Positions

This section provides an overview of the different rapture timing positions.

Seven-Year Time Frame

• Most rapture views teach that the end times are played out over a period of seven years.

Pre-Tribulationist Position

• Pre-tribulationists believe the rapture can begin at any moment but whenever it does happen, it will prove to be just before the seven-year period begins.

Mid-Tribulationist Position

• Mid-tribulationists believe the rapture occurs at the mid-point of the seven-year period.

Post-Tribulationist Position

• Post-tribulationists believe the rapture occurs at the very end of the seven-year period.

Pre-Wrath Position

• Pre-wrath view teaches that the rapture occurs at some unknown time after midpoint.

The Great Tribulation vs Tribulation Period

This section discusses how "The Great Tribulation" is different from "Tribulation Period."

The Great Tribulation

• Almost all biblical scholars recognize that "The Great Tribulation" is specifically the time of the antichrist persecution which begins after the midpoint.

Tribulation Period

• Recently, it has become something of a tradition to refer to the entire seven-year period as "The Tribulation Period."

• This is unnecessarily confusing since there is a recognized theological term called "The Great Tribulation."

Theology and the Day of the Lord

This section discusses the concept of the Day of the Lord, which is a significant event in Christian theology. It explores different views on when this day will occur and how it relates to the rapture.

The Pre-Wrath Position

• Scholars holding to the pre-wrath position believe that the righteous will be rescued on the same day that the Day of the Lord begins.

• This view has gained popularity in recent years, with many writers consistently speaking about it.

• Most debates about this topic have taken place among scholars in theological journals and university lecture halls.

Understanding the Implications

• The Day of the Lord is a significant event for Christians as it is when they will receive their rewards and be with Christ.

• However, it is also when God's wrath will be poured out on the world.

• To understand different views on when this day will occur, we need to understand basic concepts related to rapture timing.

The Seven-Year Time Frame

• Most rapture views teach that end times are played out over a period of seven years.

• Pre-Tribulationists attempt to deal with precursor problems by claiming there are two days of the Lord: one that is seven years long and another 24-hour day associated with Armageddon.

• They believe that no prophesied events occur before the rapture, which can happen at any moment.

Mid-Tribulationist View

• Mid-Tribulationists believe that rapture occurs at the mid-point of the seven-year period.

• They argue that this view is supported by scripture and that it allows for a more accurate understanding of end times events.

Problems with Pre-Tribulationist View

• There are several problems with the pre-tribulationist view, including issues related to imminence, the timing of prophesied events, and inconsistencies in interpreting scripture.

• These problems have led many scholars to question this view and explore alternative positions.

Introduction

The speaker introduces the topic of the debate surrounding the timing of the rapture and how it has been a source of disagreement among scholars and theologians.

Timing of Rapture Debate

• Scholars have been teaching about believers being gathered together to Jesus.

• There are events that happen before the rapture, but it's not clear what they are.

• Pre-tribulationism was popular 20 or 30 years ago, but there are serious contradictions in this view.

• Scholars have been wrestling with theology regarding the day of the Lord and precursors to it.

Paul's Message to Thessalonians

The speaker discusses Paul's message to the Thessalonians and how it relates to the debate surrounding the timing of the rapture.

Paul's Message

• Paul talks about certain things that need to happen before he talks about the rapture.

• These things include apostasy, revelation of man of lawlessness, and antichrist positions.

• Two main times for rapture views are end times and parousia.

Pre-Tribulationism and the Seventieth Week of Daniel

This section discusses pre-tribulationism and how it deals with the seventieth week of Daniel.

Pre-Tribulationists and the Precursor Problem

• Pre-tribulationists believe that events in the book of Revelation occur before the day of the Lord.

• The precursor problem refers to events that take place in the book that correspond to various stages of a prophetic event.

• In order to understand this problem, one needs to talk about the symbolic scroll being opened in Revelation.

• For example, there are seven seals on the scroll, and each time a seal is removed, a new prophetic event takes place.

The Day of the Lord and Prophetic Events

• Pre-tribulationists believe that these two events would happen before the day of the Lord.

• Explicitly declares that saints will not experience God's wrath during this period.

• There are different viewpoints as to when these events will occur, with pre-tribulationism being one of them.

Differences Between Pre-Tribulationism and Pre-Wrath

• The main difference between pre-tribulationism and pre-wrath is when they believe does God's wrath begin.

• The only question is when these things would happen before God's wrath begins.

Paul and the Seventieth Week of Daniel

This section discusses Paul's view on the seventieth week of Daniel.

The Timing of Events

• Pre-tribulationists believe that events in the seventieth week of Daniel occur before the seven-year period.

• They believe that these two events would happen before the day of the Lord.

The Wrath of God

• Pre-tribulationists believe that the rapture will occur just before God's wrath begins.

• Pre-wrathers believe that these seven seals are not the wrath of God but rather only represent what must come before it begins.

Differences Between Pre-Tribulationism and Pre-Wrath

• The main difference between pre-tribulationism and pre-wrath is when they believe does God's wrath begin.

• Pre-wrathers explain why they feel it's okay to ignore the grammar of this passage, as mentioned earlier.

The Day of the Lord's Wrath

This section discusses what happens during the day of the Lord's wrath.

Prophetic Events During God's Wrath

• There are concrete evidence and events that take place during this period.

• Naming things that happen during this period is important to understand what happens during this time.

Seven Angels with Seven Bowls

• Explicitly declares that saints will not experience God's wrath during this period.

• Seven angels with seven bowls of wrath appear during the day of the Lord's wrath.

The Rapture

• Pre-wrathers believe that the rapture is imminent, meaning that it can happen at any moment.

• There are at least four events explicitly stated to come before the rapture.

The Meaning of Apostasia in the Bible

In this section, the speaker discusses the meaning of apostasia in the Bible and how it relates to the pre-tribulation rapture theory.

Apostasia as Departure

• The Greek word apostasia can mean a physical departure.

• This interpretation is supported by 2 Thessalonians 2:3 and other passages.

• Pre-tribulationists contradict themselves by calling these Christians "tribulation saints" who have become Christians after the rapture.

Apostasia as Rebellion

• Apostasia can also mean political rebellion or an apostasy from faith.

• Pre-tribulationists agree that this definition is used in secular writings in Koine Greek.

• Some pre-trib scholars have addressed this problem by saying that apostasia refers to a precursor to rebellion rather than actual rebellion.

Conclusion

• The root of apostasia is probably derived from aphistomy, which means "to stand away from."

• Bringing up the root of apostasia is a desperate attempt to defend a particularly bad theory.

• This argument makes no sense since it contradicts what pre-wrathers teach with exactly what they believe.

The Believers Who Are Not Well

In this section, the speaker talks about how some believers are not well and how they will be destroyed.

Believers Who Are Not Well

• Some believers are not well.

• These believers will be destroyed.

Teaching About the Day of the Lord

In this section, the speaker discusses teaching about the day of the Lord and why it is important.

Importance of Teaching About the Day of the Lord

• It is important to teach about the day of the Lord.

• Evidence suggests that seals cannot be here.

• The wrath of God is joined with them back to back.

Pre-Tribulationists' Arguments

• Pre-Tribbers argue that there are events and patterns.

• The tense form of Greek word for before rapture throughout scripture like with has come in Revelation 6:17.

Contradictions in Commentaries

• Many pre-Tribbers say that since these serious contradictions entered into Noah's ark, floods came.

• With Lot, it was on the same day that he exited that wrath came upon Sodom.

Day of God's Wrath Has Arrived

• Pre-Tribulationists generally want to argue that references to rapture are in fact references to the day of vindication.

• Translation such as sermons correctly teach rapture.

• In verse 1, the words coming and triggers the day of the Lord because now it is time for retribution.

• The day of God's wrath has arrived.

Precursors to the Day of the Lord

In this section, the speaker discusses precursors to the day of the Lord and how they are related to rapture.

Precursors to Day of God's Wrath

• Precursors to the day of God's wrath have been occurring.

• Believers are finally recognizing that this reference is about rapture.

• In 2 Thessalonians, the Lord will rescue righteous on same seal as when he comes in judgment.

Greek Scholars' Disagreement

• A growing number of Greek scholars disagree with this idea.

• Pointing out that reason any Greek talking about these two rewards and be with Christ.

• They are only precursors to be poured out on world.

Implications of Precursor Problem

• This idea that rapture happens on past tense is clearly about redemption draws nigh.

• Other instances in Bible including revelation 19:7 where errorist indicative tense form specifically occur.

• It says lord Jesus Christ, same day that day of lord's wrath begins.

The Wedding of The Lamb Has Come

In this section, the speaker talks about how wedding lamb has come and what it means.

Wedding Of The Lamb Has Come

• The wedding lamb has come.

• Majority of pre-Tribbers still believe it is only those who have realized the value isn't it.

Implications of Wedding of The Lamb

• It's actually still believed by conservative theology.

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• Now, the fact that sort of odd if he says "now I'm going to implications of precursor problem."

The Sixth Seal and the Tribulation Saints

This section discusses the sixth seal in Revelation and its significance for the tribulation saints. It also explores arguments made by pre-tribulationists regarding the timing of the seals.

The Significance of the Sixth Seal

• The sixth seal is said to be only meant for those left.

• Tribulation saints cry out with a loud voice, asking God when He will come to avenge their blood.

• They are given white robes and told to rest for a little while longer until the full number is reached.

• The martyrs are crying out for God's wrath to finish.

Arguments Made by Pre-Tribulationists

• Pre-tribulationists believe that only Jews or tribulation saints will experience God's wrath.

• They argue that the seals are not part of God's wrath but rather events leading up to it.

• Some pre-tribulational scholars point out that Jesus was the only one worthy to break the seals and open the scroll, implying that what the martyrs were actually doing was crying out for God's wrath to finish.

• Pre-wrath view argues that this verse in Revelation 5:9 would make just as much sense at end of God's wrath, not during it.

Interpreting Matthew 24

This section focuses on interpreting Matthew 24 and its relevance to end times prophecy.

Different Interpretations of Matthew 24

• There are different interpretations of Matthew 24, with some believing it refers to the rapture and others believing it refers to events leading up to the second coming of Christ.

• Some argue that Matthew 24 is not meant for the church but rather for Jews living in Israel during the tribulation period.

• Others believe that Matthew 24 is a combination of both events leading up to the second coming and events related to the rapture.

Signs of the End Times

• Jesus mentions several signs of the end times in Matthew 24, including wars and rumors of wars, famines, earthquakes, and persecution of believers.

• He also speaks about false prophets who will deceive many people.

• Jesus emphasizes that no one knows when these things will happen except for God.

The Parable of the Fig Tree

This section discusses the parable of the fig tree in Matthew 24 and its significance for end times prophecy.

The Significance of the Fig Tree

• The fig tree is often used as a symbol for Israel in Scripture.

• Jesus uses this parable to illustrate that just as leaves on a fig tree indicate summer is near, so too do certain signs indicate His return is near.

• He emphasizes that these signs are not indicators of an exact date but rather general indications that His return is getting closer.

Being Prepared for Christ's Return

• Jesus urges believers to be prepared for His return by staying alert and faithful.

• He warns against being caught off guard like those who were destroyed in Noah's flood or like the foolish virgins in the parable He tells later in Matthew 25.

• Jesus encourages believers to be faithful and wise servants who are ready for His return at any moment.

The Meaning of "Has Come" in Revelation 6:17

This section discusses the interpretation of the phrase "has come" in Revelation 6:17 and its implications for pre-tribulational beliefs.

Interpreting "Has Come"

• Pre-tribulationists argue that the phrase "has come" in Revelation 6:17 refers to the past tense, indicating that the wrath of God has already occurred.

• They believe that this means the rapture must be imminent and could happen at any moment.

• However, others argue that this interpretation is flawed because it does not logically follow from the text.

• Instead, they suggest that "has come" should be interpreted as a present tense verb, indicating that God's wrath is currently occurring.

Aorist Tense Form

• Pre-tribulationists point to the use of the aorist tense form in Greek as evidence for their interpretation.

• However, scholars disagree on whether or not imminence can be inferred from this tense form.

• Some argue that other instances in which the aorist tense form is used do not necessarily indicate imminence.

Other Interpretations

• Others suggest that "the wedding of the lamb has come" in Revelation 19:7 should be interpreted differently than pre-tribulationists do.

• They argue that it does not necessarily mean that Christ's return is imminent.

The New Heavens and the New Earth

This section discusses the meaning of the phrase "the new heavens and the new earth" in Revelation 7:14b.

The Meaning of "The New Heavens and the New Earth"

• The phrase "the new heavens and the new earth" in Revelation 7:14b refers to eternal life that believers are promised.

• The point Peter is making is that it is the persecution that begins just before the midpoint, not something unexpected, speaking, a new topic.

• The new heavens and new earth after the midpoint are a picture of eternal life that a believer is promised.

• Resurrection to eternal life will not begin until after the sixth seal.

Imminent Rapture or Blood of Lamb?

This section discusses whether an imminent rapture or blood of lamb is responsible for events in Revelation.

Imminent Rapture or Blood of Lamb?

• Events in Revelation are not because of an imminent rapture or blood of lamb.

• Pre-Tribbers would emphatically declare that this group is not the raptured church.

Now Concerning Another Aspect

This section discusses what "now concerning" means in relation to another aspect.

What Does "Now Concerning" Mean?

• "Now concerning" can mean something entirely different subject rather than answering one question between two topics.

• It's used both ways multiple times in the New Testament.

The Moment Believers Become Immortal

This section discusses the moment when believers become immortal.

The Moment Believers Become Immortal

• It's the moment believers become immortal from God's wrath.

• The rapture is the very picture of eternal life of the church's appearance in heaven.

Sowing to Spirit vs Flesh

This section discusses sowing to spirit versus flesh.

Sowing to Spirit vs Flesh

• Sowing to spirit will reap eternal life, while sowing to flesh will reap corruption.

• This group can't be the church; it represents a totally new subject.

Imminent Rapture and the Man of Lawlessness

This section discusses the concept of imminent rapture and its origins in the early 1800s. It also explores the idea of the man of lawlessness and how it relates to the rapture.

Origins of Imminent Rapture

• The idea of imminent rapture originated in the early 1800s with the Plymouth Brethren.

• Imminence is a brand new doctrine that cannot be found in writings from before this time.

• Pre-tribulationists derive imminence from 2 Thessalonians chapter 2, which is a problematic passage for their argument.

The Problem with Imminence

• Early church writings do not support belief in an imminent rapture.

• There are events that must occur before the rapture, such as the apostasy and revealing of the man of lawlessness.

• Jesus did not imply that Christians would not go through persecution before the rapture.

The Man of Lawlessness

• The man of lawlessness is revealed before Christ's return.

• Pre-tribulationists believe that this revealing cannot happen until after the rapture.

• Paul refers to this figure as "the antichrist," but there is no unequivocal statement about who or what he is.

Rebellion and the End Times

In this section, the speaker discusses the concept of rebellion in relation to the end times. He talks about how Christians should strive to live morally and avoid lawlessness, as well as the difficulty in understanding certain aspects of prophecy.

Living Morally

• Simon Peter and others spoke about rebellion before Jesus's return.

• Christians should strive to live morally, even though it can be difficult to understand certain aspects of prophecy.

• The 800-pound gorilla is the word "rebellion," which is sometimes used in reference to falling away from faith.

Apostasy and Imminence

• Second Peter 3 suggests that Jesus's return could happen at any moment, without any specific signs or events leading up to it.

• Falling away from faith (apostasy) is a real concern for Christians, who are encouraged to keep doing good works.

• Pre-tribulationists use imminence proof texts (such as 1 Thessalonians 5:2) to support their belief that Jesus's return could happen at any moment.

The Thief in the Night

• The idea of Jesus's return being like a thief in the night is often used as a proof text for pre-tribulationism.

• Some argue that if Jesus's return is unexpected like a thief breaking into your house at night, then it must be imminent.

The Rapture Debate

In this section, the speaker discusses different views on the rapture and provides arguments for and against each position.

Pre-Tribulationism

• Pre-tribulationists believe that the rapture will occur before the tribulation period.

• Arguments for pre-tribulationism include imminence proof texts, the idea of a "secret" rapture, and the belief that God would not subject believers to his wrath.

• Arguments against pre-tribulationism include the lack of biblical support for a secret rapture, the fact that Christians have historically faced persecution and suffering, and the idea that God can protect his people during times of tribulation.

Post-Tribulationism

• Post-tribulationists believe that the rapture will occur after the tribulation period.

• Arguments for post-tribulationism include biblical passages that suggest believers will face persecution and suffering before Jesus's return, as well as the idea that Christians should be prepared to endure hardship.

• Arguments against post-tribulationism include imminence proof texts and the belief that God would not subject believers to his wrath.

Mid-Tribulationism

• Mid-tribulationalists believe that the rapture will occur in the middle of the tribulation period.

• Arguments for mid-tribulationalism include biblical passages that suggest believers will face persecution and suffering during part of the tribulation period, but not all of it.

• Arguments against mid-tribulationalism include imminence proof texts and a lack of clear biblical support for this view.

The Man of Lawlessness

In this section, the speaker discusses Paul's description of the "man of lawlessness" in 2 Thessalonians and its relevance to end times prophecy.

The Man of Lawlessness

• Paul describes the "man of lawlessness" as someone who will oppose God and exalt himself above all that is called God.

• Some believe that this figure represents a specific person (such as the Antichrist), while others see it as a more general description of evil in the world.

• The man of lawlessness is often associated with end times prophecy and the tribulation period.

The Restrainer

• Paul also mentions a "restrainer" who is holding back the man of lawlessness from being revealed.

• There are different views on who or what this restrainer represents, with some seeing it as the Holy Spirit or the church, and others seeing it as a political or social force.

• The identity of the restrainer has implications for how we understand end times prophecy and our role in it.

Pre-Tribulation Rapture Theory

In this section, the speaker discusses the pre-tribulation rapture theory and its flaws.

Misinterpretation of Paul's Teaching

• The pre-tribulation rapture theory is based on a misinterpretation of Paul's teaching in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17.

• The passage does not support the idea that believers will be taken away before the tribulation period.

• The passage refers to Christ's second coming, which occurs after the tribulation period.

Misunderstanding of Jesus' Teaching

• The pre-tribulation rapture theory also misunderstands Jesus' teaching in Matthew 24.

• Jesus' words in Matthew 24:29 refer to events that occur after the tribulation period, not before it.

• The "gathering of his elect" in Matthew 24:31 refers to believers who have endured through the tribulation period.

Lack of Scriptural Support

• There is no scriptural support for the idea that believers will be taken away before the tribulation period.

• The concept of a pre-tribulation rapture was not taught by early Christians or mentioned in church creeds until relatively recently.

Israel Persecution Before Rapture

In this section, the speaker discusses Israel persecution just before the rapture and how it relates to end times prophecy.

Interchangeable Concepts

• Paul uses interchangeable concepts when discussing Israel and end times prophecy.

• The "abomination of desolation" in Matthew 24 refers to a time when the church did not exist.

• Jesus' statement "let not your hearts be troubled" in Matthew 24 is about fear, not the rapture.

Falling Away

• The falling away mentioned in 2 Thessalonians 2 refers to rebellion against God, not a pre-tribulation rapture.

• Pre-tribulationists cherry-pick verses to support their doctrine and ignore contextual evidence.

Lack of Evidence

• There is no actual proof text for the idea that Israel will face terrible persecution just before the rapture.

• The fact that millions of Christians have died in the past shows that believers are not promised an easy life.

Imminence Argument

In this section, the speaker discusses the imminence argument used by pre-tribulationists.

False Assumption

• The idea that Christ's return could happen at any moment is a false assumption.

• Many prophesied events must occur before Christ's return, including the rise of the Antichrist and a great apostasy.

Lack of Scriptural Support

• There is no scriptural support for the idea that believers will be taken away before tribulation events occur.

• Believers should prepare themselves for difficult times ahead rather than relying on false hope.

The Sign of the Celestial Disturbance

This section discusses the sign of the celestial disturbance found in Daniel and Joel, which pre-tribulationists believe is a sign that has not yet been fulfilled.

The Sign of the Celestial Disturbance

• In Daniel, the 70 weeks are divided, and pre-tribulationists believe that this division includes a future seven-year period before the day of the Lord.

• George Ladd's post-tribulationist view is no longer credible because he writes that 69 weeks have been fulfilled in the sixth seal. However, this contradicts his opening statement when he says that these 70 weeks are divided.

• Pre-tribulationists have not successfully proved that this particular period sign in Revelation has already occurred.

• If this sign happens before the day of the Lord begins, then it cannot have begun by this point.

The Gap Theory

This section discusses how pre-tribulationists use "the gap theory" to explain why there is no mention of a rapture in early church teachings.

The Gap Theory

• There has been something like a gap of 2000 years between the first 69 weeks and the final week before God's wrath begins.

• Pre-tribulationists use "the gap theory" to explain why there is no mention of a rapture in early church teachings. They believe that God paused his dealings with national Israel during this time and focused on building his church instead.

Pre-Tribulational Beliefs

This section discusses the beliefs of pre-tribulationists and how they differ from other rapture positions.

Pre-Tribulational Beliefs

• Pre-tribulationists believe in a future seven-year period in which end times events will primarily play out.

• They believe that the rapture will occur before this seven-year period, and that it will culminate with Christ's millennial reign on earth after his return.

• Pre-tribulationists propose a unique interpretation of Revelation 6:15-17, which supports their view of the rapture.

• The theory is that God does not work with Israel and the church at the same time, so he has paused his dealings with national Israel for now.

Prewrath View

This section briefly mentions prewrath as another rapture position.

Prewrath View

• Prewrath takes a different view of when the rapture will occur, but it is not discussed in detail in this video.

Understanding the Timing of the Rapture

In this section, the speaker discusses the timing of the rapture and how it relates to various signs and events in biblical prophecy.

Signs of Tribulation Saints

• The speaker mentions that there are various signs for tribulation saints.

• These signs were given by Jesus and correspond to events in biblical prophecy.

• The speaker notes that these signs must come before the rapture, which is preceded by birth pains.

Events Before the Rapture

• The speaker counts 18 events that must occur before the rapture for those who become Christians.

• One event is that God will work with both Israel and the Church, leading to persecution by the Antichrist.

• The fifth seal is part of this great tribulation, which includes martyrdom for Christians.

Working with Israel

• The writer tells readers that God is working with Israel and not just with Gentile believers.

• This idea is confirmed by other sources such as Didache, a document from early Christianity.

• There are many instances where God works with both Israel and the Church in biblical prophecy.

Celestial Disturbances

• The speaker argues that celestial disturbances are a sign of God's wrath and judgment on a wicked world.

• He cites quotes from early church fathers who also saw these disturbances as a sign of judgment.

• He suggests that imminence, or the belief in Christ's imminent return at any moment, is the opposite of what these signs indicate.

Significance of the Rapture

• The speaker notes that there are prophesied events that need to transpire before Christ's return.

• He argues that the rapture is significant because it allows for God to work with both Israel and the Church at the same time.

• The sign of celestial disturbances indicates deliverance for those who believe in Christ.

The Pre-Wrath Rapture View

In this section, the speaker discusses the idea of the pre-wrath rapture view and how it makes sense in the context of the church.

Understanding Confusion and Judgment

• The scroll's contents are not about confusion but rather judgment.

• Actual judgment happens after both groups (Israel and the Church) are gone.

• The seals are considered to be the wrath of God by some pre-tribulationists.

• Early church writings provide insight into what Christians believed about certain prophesied events that must happen before the rapture.

Imminence as a Keystone Issue

• Imminence is a keystone issue for pre-tribulational rapture doctrine.

• The early church fathers believed in a rapture before tribulation, which is to come.

• We have contextual proof that when doctrines we hold today were taught at some point by the early church fathers.

Early Church Beliefs on Antichrist and Persecution

• Every single early church father who wrote on the relationship between the church and antichrist believed that the church would face him before Jesus returns.

• There are quotes from pre-millennial historicists who believe in something called "the pre-conflagration theory."

• Scriptural evidence for imminence today is equivalent to proof of the pre-conflagration theory.

Pre-Tribulationism in the Early Church Fathers

The speaker discusses the belief of pre-tribulationism in the early church fathers and how it is not supported by evidence.

Pre-Tribulational Inferences

• Pre-wrathers believe that post-tribulationism and intra-tribulationism are all things that pre-tribbers try to prove.

• John Gill and Walvoord quotes are used as conclusive proof for a pre-darby belief in the pre-trib rapture.

• George Ladd, a post-tribulationist, is no longer credible when he writes about the abomination of desolation at the midpoint.

Church Fathers Beliefs

• 15 church fathers believed that the rapture would only occur after the antichrist was revealed.

• The early church believed they were living in the last three and a half years of end time tribulation so whatever it is, it's not pre-tribulational doctrine.

Lack of Evidence

• No modern pre-tribber can find anything close to pre-tribulationism in any of the church fathers or students.

• Pre-wrath position best fits with what was taught by most of the early church fathers.

Conclusion

• There is no evidence supporting pre-tribulational beliefs among early church fathers.

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