Catecismo para bárbaros. Clase 2. Dios Uno y Trino

Catecismo para bárbaros. Clase 2. Dios Uno y Trino

Catechism for Barbarians Class 2

In this class, Father Javier Olivera Ravasi continues the Catechism for Barbarians series, focusing on providing catechesis in a simple and humble manner accessible to individuals with varying levels of prior religious education.

Introduction to Catechism for Barbarians

  • Father Javier Olivera Ravasi initiates the second class of Catechism for Barbarians, emphasizing punctuality and simplicity in teaching.
  • The class aims to cater to individuals with varying levels of prior catechesis experience, from those with deficient childhood education to adults exploring the fundamentals of faith for the first time.
  • The catechesis sessions are designed as elementary teachings spread over 30 lessons, utilizing resources such as the Compendium of Catechism by Pope Benedict XVI and the Baltimore Catechism.

Exploring Catechetical Resources

  • Three main resources are utilized: the Compendium of Catechism by Pope Benedict XVI, an extensive question-and-answer format; the larger catechism from previous popes; and a visual aid based on the Baltimore Catechism from the US.
  • Father Javier introduces a visual aid featuring images and questions inspired by the classic Baltimore Catechism, intending to publish it for wider accessibility post-series completion.

Invocation and Recapitulation

  • Before delving into content, an invocation prayer invoking divine guidance is recited following St. Thomas Aquinas' tradition.
  • A brief recapitulation highlights that in the previous class, they discussed proving God's existence through reason rather than corporeal senses or personal beliefs.

Philosophical Foundations

  • Concepts like Aristotle's unmoved mover and St. Thomas Aquinas' theological arguments are briefly revisited as philosophical foundations supporting belief in God through rationality.

Understanding Different Ways of Knowing

In this section, the speaker discusses various modes of knowledge acquisition beyond reason and intelligence.

Modes of Knowledge Acquisition

  • Sensibility is highlighted as another mode of knowing, where one can perceive characteristics like temperature or texture.
  • Belief is presented as a form of knowledge; for instance, inferring someone's presence from footprints on the beach.
  • The concept of faith is introduced as a way to understand things beyond pure reason, such as historical events or the value of currency.

Exploring the Concept of Faith

This part delves into the notion of faith as a supernatural virtue that goes beyond rational understanding.

Understanding Faith

  • Faith is described as a revelation from a higher being that surpasses human comprehension.
  • The speaker explains how faith manifests diversely in people and cultures, shaping beliefs and practices.

The Role of Faith in Divine Communication

Here, the discussion centers on how faith plays a crucial role in divine communication and revelation.

Divine Communication through Faith

  • God's communication with humanity is exemplified through chosen peoples like the Israelites in ancient times.

Understanding the Existence of God and Evil

In this section, the speaker delves into the philosophical question of how God, who is considered the ultimate good, can allow evil to exist in the world. The discussion revolves around human free will, the concept of apparent evils serving a greater purpose, and different perspectives on the existence of God.

The Coexistence of God and Evil

  • The presence of evil in the world is not only moral but also physical, such as children born with terminal illnesses or individuals enduring unbearable suffering.
  • Exploring the idea that apparent evils like war and disease can ultimately contribute to a greater good, referencing works like "Pedagogy of Innocent Pain" by Beato Carlo Gnocchi.
  • Reflecting on personal experiences where past sufferings have led to unforeseen positive outcomes, emphasizing how everything works together for good for those who love God.

Challenges to Belief in God

  • Some individuals struggle to see God's existence due to the prevalence of evil in the world or limitations in human understanding.
  • Factors such as materialism, pursuit of wealth, and ideological influences can hinder belief in God or acknowledgment of His presence.
  • The distractions posed by worldly possessions may lead individuals away from contemplating spiritual matters or acknowledging divine intervention.

Factors Influencing Atheism and Belief

This segment explores various factors that contribute to disbelief in God or skepticism towards religious beliefs. It touches upon personal conduct influencing perceptions of faith and external ideologies shaping one's worldview.

Influence of Personal Conduct

  • Individuals' actions as representatives of their faith can either serve as a beacon guiding others towards spirituality or act as stumbling blocks diverting them from religious paths.
  • Being a source of scandal through poor behavior akin to obstructing a path with obstacles that prevent progress along one's spiritual journey.

Ideological Influences on Belief

  • Different ideological currents may sway individuals towards atheism or disbelief in God based on societal norms or intellectual frameworks.
  • Reflection on extreme situations like hospitals or prisons where atheists may reconsider their beliefs when faced with mortality or loss, highlighting existential reflections during life-altering moments.

Moral Implications Without Belief

  • Contemplating ethical dilemmas without belief in divine judgment raises questions about accountability for actions and motivations behind choosing good over evil.

New Section

In this section, the speaker reflects on the implications of believing in a world without God and explores the concept of morality in the absence of a divine being.

Reflections on Belief and Morality

  • The speaker contemplates the idea that if one believes there is no God, then everything is permissible.
  • Notable figures throughout history, such as Copernicus, Kepler, Newton, and Einstein, affirmed the existence of God.
  • Individuals with significant intellectual prowess have acknowledged belief in a personal God, including Pasteur, Braille, Ampere, among others.
  • Ideologies like materialism may discourage acknowledging God's existence due to a perceived conflict between morality and belief in a higher power.
  • Reflecting on the consequences of God's existence or non-existence leads individuals to consider moral implications and personal conduct.

Exploring Divine Revelation

This segment delves into how individuals can come to know about God through human intellect and divine communication.

Understanding Divine Communication

  • Exploring different ways to comprehend God's nature: through human intellect and potential divine communication.
  • Discussion on how God communicates with humanity transcends natural reasoning capabilities through supernatural truths.
  • Acknowledgment that certain truths about God surpass human intellect's capacity for understanding due to inherent limitations as created beings.
  • Highlighting how God reveals supernatural truths initially to Israel as part of His divine plan for humanity's understanding and spiritual growth.

Significance of Biblical Text

This part emphasizes the importance of biblical texts in revealing divine truths and guiding human understanding.

Unveiling Divine Truth Through Scripture

  • The Bible serves as a compilation of revealed truths communicated by instruments chosen by God throughout history.
  • Etymology behind the term "Bible" originating from Greek meaning "the books," reflecting its nature as a collection of sacred texts.

Revelation and Tradition

In this section, the speaker discusses the concept of revelation and tradition within the context of a singular divine revelation represented by two pillars or legs.

The Concept of Tradition

  • The term "tradition" originates from Latin, specifically from Roman law where it denoted the act of transferring property through symbolic gestures like handing over keys.
  • In Catholicism, tradition encompasses beliefs held consistently across time and place by all believers. It includes fundamental truths such as Jesus being human and Mary remaining a virgin before, during, and after childbirth.

The Role of Tradition in Church

This part delves into how church tradition complements scripture by preserving essential truths that may not be explicitly recorded in written texts.

Complementing Scripture

  • Church tradition consists of beliefs always held universally and is documented in writing to ensure preservation.
  • While scripture captures some teachings and actions of Jesus and the apostles, it acknowledges its limitations in encompassing everything they did or said.

Early Christian Beliefs

Exploring the significance of early Christian writings from figures like St. Basil the Great, St. Gregory Nazianzen, St. John Chrysostom, among others.

Early Christian Texts

  • Early Christian writings by figures like St. Athanasius provide insights into the beliefs upheld by the earliest Christians, aiding in understanding foundational doctrines.
  • These texts offer a glimpse into what was believed universally among early Christians, shedding light on core tenets that have been passed down through generations.

Understanding Divine Revelation

Delving into how God's self-revelation surpasses human comprehension due to its depth and complexity.

Limitations of Human Understanding

  • God's revelation unveils aspects beyond human intellectual grasp, showcasing an intimate mystery that humans cannot fully comprehend even in eternity if granted access to heaven.
  • Despite efforts to know God completely out of love for Him, humans are inherently incapable of comprehending His essence entirely due to inherent limitations.

By structuring notes with headings corresponding to key themes discussed in each segment along with concise bullet points linked to specific timestamps within the transcript, this summary provides a comprehensive overview while maintaining clarity and coherence throughout different sections discussed in the video transcript.

New Section

In this section, the speaker discusses the concept of God revealing Himself as one God with three distinct persons.

Understanding God's Revelation

  • The speaker questions why humans are limited in understanding even as small as an ant and delves into what God has chosen to reveal about Himself.
  • Two aspects are highlighted: apologetics for defending faith and a methodological approach to creating a religion without the intention of dominating people.
  • If creating a religion, the speaker suggests simplifying it by focusing on basic moral principles like doing good, avoiding evil, and acknowledging a transcendent God.

Exploring the Trinity

This part delves into the complexity of understanding the Trinity and how it was revealed through historical figures like St. Athanasius.

Insights on the Trinity

  • Creating a religion would not include concepts beyond intellectual comprehension, unlike the Christian belief in one God with three distinct persons.
  • Reference to St. Athanasius' defense of Catholic faith emphasizing worshiping one God in trinity and trinity in unity without confusing or separating persons.

The Credo of St. Athanasius

The discussion centers around St. Athanasius' creed regarding salvation through maintaining Catholic faith and understanding the unity within the Trinity.

Key Points from St. Athanasius' Creed

  • Emphasis on adoring one God in trinity and maintaining unity without confusion or separation among divine persons.
  • Detailed explanation of how each person (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) is unique yet shares one divinity, eternal glory, majesty, omnipotence but not three gods or lords.

Illustrating Divine Revelation

Here, there is an attempt to illustrate how God's revelation as one God with three distinct persons can be understood through a simple drawing.

Visual Representation of Divine Revelation

New Section

In this section, the speaker discusses the concept of the Holy Trinity and its prefigurations in the Old Testament.

Understanding the Holy Trinity

  • The Old Testament contains prefigurations of the Holy Trinity, hinting at the unity of God as one but existing in three distinct persons.
  • Scriptures like Proverbs 8:22-24 allude to the eternal existence of wisdom engendered by God, emphasizing a divine generation rather than creation.
  • The Trisagio in Isaiah emphasizes the triplication of "holy" to underscore God's sanctity and power, a motif continued in both Testaments.

Exploring Divine Revelation

This segment delves into how God reveals Himself through different persons within the Holy Trinity for humanity's salvation.

Divine Revelation Through Persons

  • The second person of the Holy Trinity is sent to redeem humanity by assuming human nature and saving it from original sin committed by Adam and Eve.
  • Biblical events like the Annunciation highlight manifestations of the Holy Trinity, with Gabriel revealing Christ's divine nature through interaction with Mary.

Significance of Baptism and Trinitarian Formula

Here, baptism serves as a pivotal moment showcasing Trinitarian beliefs and affirmations within Christian practices.

Baptismal Symbolism

  • Jesus' baptism symbolizes divine manifestation as the Spirit descends visibly, accompanied by a heavenly voice affirming His identity as God's beloved Son.

New Section

In this section, the speaker discusses the concept of God and different beliefs about Jesus Christ.

Understanding Different Beliefs

  • The speaker mentions that in the past, people believed in a purgatory and hell, but now it is not convenient to believe in them.
  • Some individuals considered as progressives during the healing era believed that Jesus Christ was a great man but not God. This belief led to divisions like Arians who did not believe in Jesus as part of the Holy Trinity.
  • The speaker emphasizes that if Jesus Christ is not the second person of the Holy Trinity incarnated as a human, then he cannot save humanity. Affirming the Holy Trinity is crucial for salvation.

Exploring Different Perspectives

  • An example is provided where Buddha and Jesus Christ are compared regarding guiding followers towards transcendent values. The discussion revolves around how these figures address suffering and spiritual paths differently.
  • The comparison between different beliefs highlights that the Christian understanding of God as one and trine sets it apart from other religions like Islam and Judaism, emphasizing distinct theological perspectives.

New Section

This section delves into further comparisons between monotheistic beliefs and emphasizes differences in theological understandings.

Contrasting Monotheistic Beliefs

  • The speaker explains that despite monotheism being a belief in one god, differences exist among religions regarding their understanding of God. For instance, Christians believe in a triune God while Muslims adhere to a singular deity concept.
  • Differences between monotheistic faiths are highlighted; for instance, Jews do not affirm the Holy Trinity like Catholics do. This distinction underscores diverse interpretations of divinity across religious traditions.

Emphasizing Unique Perspectives

  • Monotheism is discussed further with an emphasis on how each religion's conception of God shapes their beliefs and practices. The speaker stresses that while there may be one god conceptually, interpretations vary significantly among faith traditions.

New Section

This section focuses on how varying beliefs about God impact religious identities and practices.

Impact of Differing Beliefs

  • The speaker underscores that distinct views on God influence religious identities profoundly. While all monotheistic faiths acknowledge one god, nuances in understanding divine nature lead to significant theological divergences.

Revelation, Redemption, and Salvation

The speaker delves into the concepts of revelation, redemption, and salvation in relation to understanding the mystery of God. Different modes of knowing God are discussed, emphasizing the importance of faith and tradition in comprehending divine truths.

Understanding God through Revelation

  • Faith as a way to know God: Faith is highlighted as a theological virtue that stems from God, enabling believers to accept revealed truths documented in both scripture and sacred tradition.

Importance of Sacred Tradition

  • Significance of sacred tradition: Emphasis on the role of sacred tradition alongside scripture in transmitting essential beliefs consistently throughout history by the Church's magisterium.

The Trinity and Divine Attributes

  • Nature of God: Explanation of God as one true deity existing in three distinct persons - Father, Son, and Holy Spirit - illustrated through an analogy with three candles representing one flame.

Roles within the Trinity

  • Functions within the Trinity: Each person within the Trinity is attributed specific roles - creation to the Father, redemption to the Son, and sanctification to the Holy Spirit.

Conclusion and Blessing

The discussion concludes with reflections on imparting knowledge through potential examinations for sacramental readiness while invoking blessings in reverence to the Holy Trinity.

Examination for Sacraments

  • Sacramental preparation: Consideration for conducting basic examinations post completing 30 lessons for individuals seeking sacraments like baptism or confirmation before potentially serving in parish roles.

Final Blessing

Video description

Catecismo básico en treinta lecciones. P. Javier Olivera Ravasi, SE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Clase 1: La existencia de Dios y sus perfecciones https://youtu.be/tQHobfpFFDE Clase 2: Dios Uno y Trino https://youtu.be/rfPBVjQ8UxE Clase 3: La creación y los ángeles https://youtu.be/5J1aauKTfJs --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Para profundización acerca del tema de la Santísima Trinidad, recomiendo estos Elementos de la Santísima Trinidad, del P. Dr. Christian Ferraro, en tres partes: - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkCR9OablQA - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnayIWp8hdI - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h5EtOtwDyM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ▶️ Nuestro apostolado se sostiene gracias al aporte voluntario de quienes comprenden lo que es una contrarrevolución cultural y espiritual. Aquí nos pueden ayudar: https://www.patreon.com/pjavieroliveraravasi http://www.quenotelacuenten.org/donaciones/ --- 📌 SUSCRIPCIÓN A CURSOS: http://recursoscatolicos.quenotelacuenten.org/suscripciones.html https://cursos.quenotelacuenten.org/ 📕 EDITORIAL: https://editorial.quenotelacuenten.org/ 🗒️ MÁS INFO: cursos@quenotelacuenten.org ; editorial@quenotelacuenten.org Whatsapp: +54 9 11 3151 9462 - - - 🔔 Para "que no te la cuenten" suscríbete: http://bit.ly/38qDl80 🌐 Sitio web: http://www.quenotelacuenten.org/ ✅ Post por WhatsApp: Envia "ALTA" al +5491135809554 y guarda el numero en tus contactos . --- - Twitter: https://twitter.com/PJavierOR - Telegram: https://t.me/qntlc Tu difusión (en redes sociales, en grupos de WhatsApp, etc.) ayuda muchísimo.