Claude Cowork Setup: How One Founder Replaced $14K of Agency Work in 30 Minutes

Claude Cowork Setup: How One Founder Replaced $14K of Agency Work in 30 Minutes

Cloud Co-Work and AI Journey

Introduction to Cloud Co-Work

  • The speaker introduces their setup using Cloud Co-Work, a tool built on top of Cloud Code, highlighting its potential in leveraging AI agents.
  • The speaker expresses excitement about sharing the evolution of their setup over just three weeks.

Guest Introduction: Steve Cunningham

  • Jonathan Carford welcomes Steve Cunningham, reflecting on his influence as an early mentor in AI education during Jonathan's journey.
  • Steve shares his enthusiasm for Jonathan's progress since they last spoke and acknowledges the time that has passed since their initial meeting.

Background of Steve Cunningham

  • Jonathan prompts Steve to share more about himself beyond his professional persona, asking about his background and entry into the AI field.
  • Steve recounts his brief experience as a lawyer (one week), explaining how he transitioned from law to marketing after realizing he wanted a different career path.

Transition from Law to Marketing

  • He describes the typical summer job for law students in Canada and how it led him to conclude that being a lawyer was not for him due to its mind-numbing nature.
  • Despite enjoying law school, he found most lawyers unhappy with their careers, prompting him to pursue entrepreneurship instead.

Reasons Behind Choosing Marketing

  • Steve explains that he had read numerous business books while considering joining his family's signage company, which sparked his interest in marketing.
  • He highlights the creativity involved in marketing as appealing compared to other professions, although running a marketing agency proved less enjoyable than anticipated.

Evolution into AI

  • The conversation shifts towards how Steve transitioned from marketing into the realm of AI, hinting at significant developments like ChatGPT that influenced this shift.

AI's Impact on Business and Learning

Reflections on AI and Personal Experience

  • The speaker humorously reflects on the idea of using a time machine to eliminate AI, emphasizing their passion for reading and sharing knowledge as a lifelong learner.
  • Initially resistant to AI, the speaker quickly recognized its efficiency in summarizing books, which previously took them hours to do manually.
  • The speaker was adept at summarizing business books but realized that AI could perform this task equally well or better, leading to concerns about job security in their field.

Transitioning Business Models

  • As more people discovered AI's capabilities, the speaker noted a gradual decline in their business as clients turned to AI for book summaries.
  • The speaker began integrating AI into their business model while ramping up production and launched a program that connected them with others interested in similar advancements.

Evolution of Learning and Marketing Strategies

  • In Spring 2023, the speaker learned about ChatGPT from an AI officer at their company, prompting them to seek out marketing insights from others in the field.
  • They reflect on how prompt engineering has evolved since early versions of GPT models, highlighting significant changes in learning approaches over three years.

Shifts Towards Human-AI Collaboration

  • The conversation shifts towards recent developments where companies are now focusing on integrating human workers with AI agents for improved productivity.
  • Over three years, the focus has transitioned from teaching individuals about AI to helping businesses achieve better results through custom-built software solutions.

Future Directions and Tools

  • The concept of a "humans plus agents" economy is introduced as essential for future business strategies; understanding this collaboration will be crucial moving forward.
  • The speaker plans to demonstrate their setup using cloud co-work tools that enhance productivity significantly compared to traditional methods.

Conclusion and Offerings

  • Listeners can expect insights into effective setups for leveraging new tools like cloud co-work; practical steps will be shared during the session.
  • A special offer is mentioned where listeners can receive training resources aimed at enhancing their skills with these new technologies.

Cloud Code Setup and Insights

Introduction to Cloud Code

  • The discussion begins with a casual introduction about showcasing their setups, specifically focusing on the use of cloud code.
  • One participant mentions that cloud code was designed to be more user-friendly compared to traditional IDEs, which can be intimidating for many users.

Personal Organization and Workflow

  • The speaker describes their organizational structure within their Claude folder, categorizing tasks based on needs such as branding and video editing.
  • They emphasize the importance of providing good context to AI for optimal performance, noting that poor context leads to subpar results.

Evolution of Folder Structure

  • Over three weeks, the speaker has refined their folder structure significantly since starting with cloud code.
  • They reflect on how their initial setup was chaotic but gradually improved as they implemented order through numbering and organization.

Thinking Lenses and AI Progression

  • The conversation shifts towards "thinking lenses" created by OpenAI regarding the future progression of AI technologies over ten years.
  • The speaker recalls OpenAI's predictions about the evolution from chatbots to reasoning models, agents, innovators, and organizations.

Practical Application in Daily Operations

  • They share insights on structuring tasks as if running a company with agents, which has transformed their daily operations significantly.
  • A specific mention is made about onboarding new tasks by directing them to read the COO folder for guidance.

File Formats: HTML vs. Markdown

  • A question arises regarding the choice between HTML format versus markdown files for organizing information effectively.
  • The speaker explains that traditional office documents are not suitable for large language models (LLMs), while software engineers prefer markdown due to its simplicity in coding contexts.

Challenges with Current Document Formats

  • It is noted that office documents contain messy code layers making them difficult for LLM processing.
  • The need for a language that balances readability for humans and compatibility with LLM capabilities is highlighted; HTML is presented as a viable solution.

HTML as a Universal File Format for Humans and Agents

The Advantages of HTML

  • HTML is identified as an effective file format for both humans and AI agents, facilitating better communication and interaction.
  • The training of AI models on HTML allows them to excel in coding it, which can lead to innovative applications in AI development.

Transitioning to Humans Plus Agents

  • Emphasizing the need for collaboration between humans and agents, the speaker advocates for creating tools that enhance this partnership.
  • A discussion arises about the limitations of PowerPoint presentations compared to the flexibility offered by HTML, suggesting a shift towards web-based formats.

Validation from Industry Leaders

  • A notable mention of Enthropic's interest in improving communication bandwidth between humans and models supports the argument for using HTML.
  • The ability of cloud code to generate understandable HTML files demonstrates practical applications aligning with the speaker's vision.

Transformative Workflow Improvements

  • Utilizing HTML has significantly streamlined business processes, making tasks like custom proposals easier and more efficient.
  • The transition from traditional presentation tools to web-based formats is highlighted as a major improvement in workflow efficiency.

Publishing Challenges and Solutions

  • While publishing PowerPoints is straightforward, creating web pages remains challenging; thus, new tools are being developed to simplify this process.
  • An alpha version tool allows users to drag-and-drop files for immediate publication online, enhancing productivity within teams.

Enhancing Agent Instructions

  • Clear instructions formatted in HTML enable both human readability and agent comprehension, improving onboarding processes.
  • The use of dictation tools like Whisper facilitates faster idea exploration without the constraints of typing.

How to Efficiently Manage Marketing Projects with AI

Overview of Project Management System

  • The speaker describes a structured approach to managing marketing projects, utilizing folders for different functional areas of the business.
  • Each folder contains advisors and agents that assist in decision-making and execution, along with context files that provide necessary information for tasks.
  • The marketing folder includes brand voice guidelines, design systems, and templates for various web-related tasks to streamline project initiation.

Project Execution Process

  • The speaker emphasizes treating each task as a project, aiming to complete what would typically take weeks in just 30 minutes.
  • An example is provided where the speaker designed an interface for a new platform within 30 minutes using AI assistance while at the gym.
  • At the end of each project, the speaker generates a receipt detailing time and cost savings compared to traditional methods.

Continuous Improvement Loop

  • The process allows for understanding productivity levels; tasks that took weeks can now be completed rapidly, changing planning and execution strategies.
  • After completing projects, the speaker reviews outcomes and identifies potential system improvements based on AI feedback during sessions.
  • A wrap-up process is implemented where suggestions for enhancements are documented daily to improve future performance.

Daily Productivity Cycle

  • Each day concludes with actionable insights aimed at enhancing company operations overnight, leading to continuous improvement in workflows.
  • This cyclical approach creates a sense of progress akin to quarterly evaluations by regrouping after completing multiple projects.

Future Outlook on AI Integration

  • The speaker notes significant productivity increases over recent weeks due to this structured method but acknowledges uncertainty about its long-term effectiveness without testing.
  • Anticipation is expressed regarding rapid advancements in technology that may further enhance these processes.

AI's Impact on Work Efficiency and Innovation

Understanding AI's Role in Productivity

  • Knowing what you want from AI can significantly streamline your work, allowing for weeks of tasks to be completed in minutes.
  • Exploring AI capabilities is essential; however, focusing on productive outcomes and setting clear goals is crucial for maximizing its benefits.

Measuring Success with AI

  • Tracking metrics such as the time users spend on web pages or proposals can provide valuable insights into the effectiveness of AI applications.
  • Customizing proposals at scale using tools like Google Analytics offers a unique opportunity to enhance user engagement and understanding.

The Evolution of Technology Use

  • Contrary to common belief, advancing technology simplifies usage rather than complicating it, making it more accessible for users.
  • There’s a distinction between improving existing processes versus creating entirely new methodologies that leverage AI for faster decision-making.

Adapting Business Models with AI

  • Companies must innovate continuously as traditional roles may become redundant due to automation; this requires rethinking value addition strategies.
  • Emphasizing research and experimentation is vital since discovering what adds value often comes from trial and error.

Key Future Considerations

Distribution and Feedback Loops

  • Building distribution channels is critical; without an audience, even the best products fail to gain traction.
  • Engaging with customers early helps identify valuable features while maintaining a flexible approach akin to perpetual beta testing.

Data Collection as a Strategic Asset

  • Collecting data on how work is performed will inform future developments and help identify areas where automation can be applied effectively.
  • The focus should remain on delivering solutions that directly address customer needs, ensuring that any new product developed has market demand.

AI Workflow Engineering Training and Its Impact

Introduction to AI Workflow Engineering

  • The speaker expresses admiration for Steve's focus on delivering coherent impact and value in discussions.
  • Steve discusses the AI workflow engineering training, emphasizing that many individuals do not realize the potential of AI until they experience an "aha moment."
  • This training is made available on a trial basis, allowing participants to discover if it resonates with them.

Key Moments in AI Journey

  • The speaker reflects on their journey with AI, highlighting key influences that sparked their understanding and growth in the field.
  • They mention how different perspectives from various individuals contributed significantly to their learning process over three years.

Insights on Change and Business Value

  • A quote attributed to Jeff Bezos is discussed: instead of asking what will change in five years, one should consider what will remain constant.
  • Steve emphasizes that fundamental business principles—understanding customer problems and providing solutions—will not change despite technological advancements.

Importance of Adding Value

  • The discussion highlights the importance of focusing on adding value rather than getting caught up in tools or technologies.
  • Businesses need to prioritize solving problems for customers, which remains a consistent demand regardless of changing tools or methods.

Conclusion and Gratitude

  • The conversation wraps up with reflections on helping businesses make money by addressing their core needs effectively.
  • The speaker expresses gratitude for Steve's mentorship throughout their AI journey, reinforcing the value of guidance from experienced individuals.
Video description

GTM AI Podcast: www.gtmaipodcast.com GTM AI Academy: www.gtmaiacademy.com AI Business Network: www.aibusinessnetwork.ai Steve Cunningham / Humans Plus Agents: https://humansplusagents.ai/ Steve on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aisteve/ Steve Cunningham built a 10-year business around being the best in the world at summarizing business books. Then AI did it in 5 minutes. Instead of fighting it, he burned it down and rebuilt. Now he runs an AI agent operation inside Claude Cowork where 30 minutes of his time replaces 70 man-hours and $14,000 of agency work. In this episode, Steve walks through his exact setup: the folder structure that treats AI like a company, why HTML is replacing every other file format, the invoice method that rewires how you plan, and the overnight improvement loop that makes his system better while he sleeps. Plus, Steve is offering GTM AI Academy listeners access to his Black Belt AI Workflow Engineering training. Link in the show notes. 🔗 LINKS & RESOURCES GTM AI Podcast: www.gtmaipodcast.com GTM AI Academy: www.gtmaiacademy.com AI Business Network: www.aibusinessnetwork.ai Steve Cunningham / Humans Plus Agents: https://humansplusagents.ai/ Steve on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aisteve/ 📌 TIMESTAMPS 0:00 - Intro and Steve's background 5:18 - How AI killed his dream job 8:57 - Simple Academy to Humans Plus Agents 10:11 - Claude Cowork setup and demo 14:03 - The org chart mental model for AI 15:34 - Why HTML beats Markdown and Office docs 22:43 - Folder structure walkthrough (advisors, agents, context, projects) 25:09 - The $14,000 in 30 minutes demo 27:04 - Treating every day like a quarter 28:11 - The continuous improvement loop 33:02 - What is actually NEW vs. just faster 34:15 - Distribution, deployment, and data framework 36:52 - Black Belt training offer 39:53 - The Bezos question: what will NOT change