#57 - What families have taught us: insights from our first 50 episodes

#57 - What families have taught us: insights from our first 50 episodes

Introduction to the School Experience Podcast

Overview of the Episode

  • The episode is hosted by Lisa Reichel and marks a reflection on over 50 episodes of shared lived experiences regarding school challenges.
  • It aims to identify recurring themes from various families' stories about their experiences with school refusal or "school can't."

Themes in Lived Experiences

  • Many families report early signs of distress related to schooling, often overlooked or dismissed as normal behavior.
  • A content warning is issued due to discussions around sensitive topics like suicidal thoughts and self-harm. Listeners are encouraged to seek support if needed.

Early Signs of School Challenges

Identifying Issues Before School

  • Families frequently noted that signs of distress were evident even before formal schooling began, sometimes as early as daycare.
  • Parents often received reassurances from educators that their children would adjust, leading them to doubt their observations.

Personal Accounts Highlighting Distress

  • Eliza Fricker shares her experience with her daughter’s anxiety during nursery school, which was initially dismissed by teachers as typical adjustment issues.
  • Marissa Taylor describes how her children appeared socially well-adjusted at school until they suddenly faced significant attendance issues in later years.

Misinterpretation of Children's Behavior

Common Misunderstandings

  • Parents often misread signs of fatigue and distress in their children, attributing it to typical teenage behavior rather than underlying issues like celiac disease or anxiety disorders.
  • The podcast emphasizes that parents should trust their instincts when they sense something is wrong despite positive reports from schools about their children's behavior.

Professional Advice and Its Consequences

Flawed Guidance from Professionals

  • Many families reported receiving professional advice that inadvertently worsened their situations, such as making home life less comfortable for the child. This approach can be damaging rather than helpful.
  • Diana's family followed this advice but ended up facing severe consequences, including a suicide threat from her son due to increased pressure at home and school environments perceived as hostile.

Impact on Family Dynamics

  • The podcast highlights how misguided professional recommendations can lead families into crises instead of providing solutions, emphasizing the need for better understanding among professionals about individual family dynamics and needs.

Broader Family Impacts

Sacrifices Made by Families

  • Every family interviewed described significant sacrifices made in terms of careers, financial stability, friendships, and personal health due to the stress associated with managing a child's educational needs.
  • Nicola recounts resigning from a demanding job because she could no longer balance work responsibilities with her children's needs effectively; this led to feelings of grief over lost career aspirations and identity shifts within the family dynamic.

Emotional Toll on Parents

Feelings of Shame and Isolation

  • Parents expressed feelings of shame for not being able to get their children to school or maintain traditional roles within society; these emotions compound existing stressors related to parenting challenges.

Recovery Paths

Unconventional Routes Toward Healing

  • Recovery does not follow a standard program; it varies greatly between individuals based on personal circumstances.
  • Emma shares how ice skating became a pivotal activity for her daughter Ushi's recovery after previous interventions failed; it provided joy and engagement without pressure.
  • Jenny discusses how leasing a horse helped her daughter Bethany cope with demands she found overwhelming due to pathological demand avoidance (PDA).

The Journey of Recovery: Baby Steps and Understanding

Introduction to the Process

  • The speaker discusses how they leased a horse for their child, who loved horses, emphasizing that progress was slow and involved baby steps.
  • The child initially felt pressured by the parent's inquiries about going to see the horse, which turned it into a task rather than an enjoyable activity.
  • Recovery is described as incremental; small achievements like grocery shopping and distance education eventually lead to university.

Academic Progress and Realizations

  • Despite receiving a low ATAR score due to various factors, the child was accepted into university with additional support for their autism diagnosis.
  • The speaker highlights that high ATAR scores are not necessary for university admission; success can be achieved with lower scores.

Personal Experiences of Recovery

  • A memorable beach day illustrates recovery without pressure or agenda; spontaneity helped foster connection between parent and child.
  • Simone recalls her mother’s spontaneous decision to skip school in favor of a fun day at the beach, highlighting the importance of flexibility in parenting.

Trust and Connection Before Learning

Importance of Relationships

  • Trust is emphasized as essential before learning can occur; genuine connections are crucial for effective education.
  • Wendy shares her experience as a foster parent, stressing that acknowledgment of struggles is more important than accolades or awards.

Family Needs in Education Systems

  • Families desire understanding from educational professionals rather than perfection or unlimited resources; being seen is paramount.

Navigating School Refusal: Insights from Experience

Advice for Parents on School Refusal

  • Parents are encouraged to understand their own emotional states when dealing with school refusal; stress affects decision-making abilities.
  • Achieving regulation within oneself allows clearer thinking about family needs and options regarding education paths.

Reflection on Personal Journeys

  • Finding grounding techniques is vital for making informed decisions about children's education and well-being.

Recognizing Individual Needs in Education

Introspection in Parenting

  • Parents should reflect on whether they impose their goals onto their children instead of supporting their individual needs.
  • Success should be redefined beyond traditional metrics like university attendance; mental health and happiness are equally important.

Understanding Educational Trauma

  • Educational trauma can lead children to avoid school as a means of self-preservation; recognizing this can guide parents toward appropriate interventions.

Messages from Young People: Acceptance and Understanding

Yanni's Perspective

  • Yanni emphasizes that children struggling with school aren't trying to be difficult but may need different approaches to learning.

Closing Thoughts

  • Gratitude is expressed towards families sharing their stories, reinforcing that resilience comes from focusing on connection rather than seeking perfect systems.
Video description

We've just passed 50 episodes of The School Can't Experience — and many of those have been lived experience episodes: families coming on to tell us what School Can't has actually been like for them in real life. In going back through all of those episodes to prepare this one, something became very clear. Different families, different states, different children, different journeys — but so many of the same themes appearing again and again. This episode is about those patterns. including: - The early signs that were there all along and why they were so easy to dismiss - The professional advice that cost families the most and why it kept being given - What School Can't actually costs families beyond the child: careers, health, identity, relationships - What recovery really looked like when it finally came and why it almost never looked the way anyone planned - What families, having been through it, most want you to know This one is for parents and carers who are in the middle of it, and for the educators and health professionals who are trying to help them. ⚠️ Content warning: this episode includes clips from previous episodes that mention suicidal thoughts and self-harm. We don't go into detail, but please listen with care. If this podcast or the School Can’t Australia community has helped you, please consider making a donation or volunteering to help. Find out more here: https://www.schoolcantaustralia.com.au/get-involved#donate Episodes mentioned — listen to the full stories 7 — Emma G's Lived Experience: https://schoolcantexperience.buzzsprout.com/2447546/episodes/16887755-7-lived-experience-connecting-with-passion-to-overcome-burnout-with-emma-gilmour 9 — Jennie's Lived Experience: https://schoolcantexperience.buzzsprout.com/2447546/episodes/16923948-9-lived-experience-trusting-our-guts-and-tuning-out-the-noise-with-jennie-plummer 10 — Marissa's Lived Experience Pt 1: https://schoolcantexperience.buzzsprout.com/2447546/episodes/17012454-10-lived-experience-school-can-t-domino-effect-with-marissa-taylor-part-1 11 — Marissa's Lived Experience Pt 2: https://schoolcantexperience.buzzsprout.com/2447546/episodes/17055456-11-lived-experience-solving-problems-using-low-demand-parenting-and-collaboration-with-marissa-taylor-part-2 18 — Mark's Lived Experience: https://schoolcantexperience.buzzsprout.com/2447546/episodes/17343389-18-lived-experience-with-mark-thompson 23 — Eliza Fricker's Lived Experience: https://schoolcantexperience.buzzsprout.com/2447546/episodes/17537284-23-eliza-fricker-s-lived-experience 24 — Jane's Lived Experience: https://schoolcantexperience.buzzsprout.com/2447546/episodes/17574185-24-jane-s-lived-experience 25 — Nicola's Lived Experience: https://schoolcantexperience.buzzsprout.com/2447546/episodes/17611226-25-nicola-s-lived-experience 26 — Kate & Daniel's Lived Experience: https://schoolcantexperience.buzzsprout.com/2447546/episodes/17651744-26-kate-daniel-s-lived-experience 27 — Diana's Lived Experience: https://schoolcantexperience.buzzsprout.com/2447546/episodes/17687736-27-diana-s-lived-experience 30 — Simone & Yani's Lived Experience: https://schoolcantexperience.buzzsprout.com/2447546/episodes/17807153-30-simone-yani-s-lived-experience 43 — Wendy's Lived Experience: https://schoolcantexperience.buzzsprout.com/2447546/episodes/18316444-43-wendy-s-lived-experience 48 — Rachel's Lived Experience: https://schoolcantexperience.buzzsprout.com/2447546/episodes/18767829-48-rachel-s-lived-experience-what-an-ot-can-do-for-school-can-t Resources & support School Can't Australia Website & ebook: https://www.schoolcantaustralia.com.au/minibook Facebook community (14,000+ members): https://www.facebook.com/groups/schoolphobiaschoolrefusalaustralia If you need support right now Lifeline: 13 11 14 Parent Helpline (all states): https://kidshelpline.com.au/parents/issues/how-parentline-can-help-you Resources recommended across the episodes featured today Dr Ross Greene — Collaborative & Proactive Solutions (free resources): https://livesinthebalance.org Kristy Forbes — In Tune with PDA: https://www.kristyforbes.com.au/pda Eliza Fricker — Can't Not Won't (book): https://missingthemark.co.uk Home Education Network: https://home-ed.vic.edu.au Dr Natalie Thompson — Disability Affirming Classrooms micro-credential (recommended by Symone Wheatley-Hey, Ep 29): search CSU Disability Affirming Classrooms Share your story If you'd like to share your own School Can't lived experience, please email: schoolcantpodcast@gmail.com Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is based on personal lived experiences and is shared for informational and storytelling purposes only. It should not be treated as medical, psychological, or professional advice under any circumstances. If you have concerns about your health or well-being, please seek guidance from a doctor, therapist, or other qualified professional.