I TASSI DEI BOND RAGGIUNGONO UNA SOGLIA CRITICA. E ADESSO?

What Will Happen to Bonds?

Analysis of 10-Year Bond Yields

• The discussion begins with an analysis of the 10-year bond yields, which serve as a benchmark for observing movements in interest rates and macroeconomic scenarios. The current yield is at 4.06%, nearing the psychological threshold of 4% .

• Recent trends show a slowdown in yields, dropping from 4.03% to nearly 4%. This indicates difficulty in maintaining levels below this threshold, suggesting it holds both technical and psychological significance for market perceptions .

• Low long-term rates could imply market expectations of economic slowdown or deflation, raising concerns about U.S. debt sustainability and overall economic health as these rates approach critical levels .

• Technical analysis reveals compression in bond prices, indicating that significant price movements may occur soon due to accumulated energy from trading volumes. This suggests potential volatility ahead for the bond market .

• The speaker emphasizes the importance of monitoring real interest rates alongside nominal yields, noting that current real rates are positive but could signal challenges for U.S. growth if they break downwards significantly .

Understanding Real Interest Rates

• Real interest rates are currently positive at 180 basis points above expected inflation, meaning nominal yields exceed inflation expectations by this margin. This situation presents a challenge for U.S. growth as higher nominal payments must be made relative to inflation forecasts .

• The concept of financial repression is discussed; unlike typical scenarios where creditors receive less purchasing power than lent, current conditions allow investors to achieve positive real returns on bonds despite high nominal interest payments by the government .

• Observations on U.S. debt indicate that rising interest costs are becoming a larger portion of total debt service obligations, surpassing historical averages and approaching levels not seen since the early '90s [].

Implications of Rising Debt Costs

• A significant graphic illustrates how increasing deficits translate into GDP growth; however, recent data shows diminishing returns on new debt incurred by the government—indicating lower fiscal multipliers than historically observed .

• As interest expenses rise relative to total debt, there’s concern over productivity loss associated with servicing this debt rather than investing it productively within the economy .

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Deficit and Debt in the U.S. Economy

Impact of Deficit on GDP

• The deficit generated in the United States contributes only 0.58 to the Gross Domestic Product (GDP), indicating a diminishing fiscal multiplier effect as passive interest payments begin to weigh heavily.

Bond Market Dynamics

• Recent trends show that bonds are struggling due to rising rates, failing to provide significant returns, particularly when comparing 10-year and 2-year bond yields.

Yield Curve Anomalies

• An inversion occurred in 2022 where 2-year rates exceeded those of 10-year bonds, often signaling an impending recession once normalcy returns.

Current Economic Conditions

• Despite inefficiencies, the U.S. continues to run a high deficit—double the post-war average—delaying recessionary impacts.

Understanding Stipening of Yield Curves

• The steepening of yield curves can indicate market weakness; it is not solely driven by demand for long-term bonds but also reflects relative strength against short-term bonds.

Market Reactions and Future Projections

Recent Movements in Bond Yields

• Long-term bond yields have recently experienced an uptick despite ongoing struggles, highlighting an inverse relationship between yields and asset prices.

Financial Education Insights

• A decrease in secondary market yields indicates increased buying activity, leading to higher asset prices—a fundamental concept in financial education.

Sustainability of Yield Declines

• A survey question posed regarding the sustainability of recent yield declines amidst a backdrop of spiraling deficits and public debt highlights concerns about economic stability.

Economic Scenarios: Risks Ahead

Psychological Implications of Interest Rates

• A drop below 4% for the decade-long rate could symbolize significant psychological shifts but may also reflect expectations of economic deterioration without inflationary pressures.

Potential Economic Outcomes

• Various scenarios such as stagflation or hard landing are discussed; these involve economic slowdowns with persistent inflation or deflationary pressures affecting long-term rates differently.

Technical Analysis on Bonds

Monitoring Bond Trends

• Technical analysis shows TLT (long-dated Treasury bonds) oscillating within a range, challenging resistance levels while avoiding breakdown patterns like head-and-shoulders formations.

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Interest Rate Expectations and Market Analysis

Federal Reserve Interest Rate Projections

• The speaker discusses a formula that calculates the expected interest rates based on Fed Funds, subtracting implied futures for U.S. rates by the end of 2026.

• Current market expectations indicate a projected cut of 57 basis points in interest rates by the Federal Reserve before year-end, suggesting a potential double cut with hints at a third.

• As per CME data, current U.S. interest rates range between 3.5% and 3.75%, with significant probabilities indicating no cuts during March meetings but anticipating cuts later in the year.

Market Probabilities and Trends

• The highest probability (32%) suggests two rate cuts could lower rates to approximately 3.25%, while there is also a 27% chance of three cuts occurring.

• Observations are made regarding bond markets, particularly focusing on the MOV index which indicates volatility; currently at 68 points.

Correlation Between Bond Volatility and Stock Markets

• A strong inverse correlation exists between the MOV index (bond market volatility) and the S&P 500 index; as bond volatility increases, stock performance tends to decline.

• When bond market volatility rises, it raises concerns in equity markets about underlying economic conditions, leading to potential corrections in stock prices.

Recent Movements in Bond Volatility

• The MOV index recently spiked from 56 to around 68 points; although not extremely high, this increase warrants monitoring due to its implications for stock market stability.

• There is speculation about whether a divergence is forming between rising bond volatility (MOV) and an S&P 500 that remains relatively stable yet weak.

Additional Notes

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