The Carnivore Psycho Who Tried To Murder His Family (Goatis)

Name: The Carnivore Psycho Who Tried To Murder His Family (Goatis)
Uploaded: 2025-01-01T22:21:04.000Z
Duration: 3 h 6 min 23 s

The Disturbing Journey of Gatis Langd

Introduction to Gatis Langd

Gatis Langd, also known as "spage," is described as an internet psychopath with a history of disturbing behaviors, including violence and conspiracy theories.

His actions range from attempted murder to cult activities, showcasing a complex and troubling personality.

Early Online Presence

Gatis created his first YouTube account in 2006, focusing on RuneScape content, particularly player killing (pking).

His videos gained popularity due to the emo music he featured, but he later faced issues with hacking and lost interest in the game.

Shift in Content and Behavior

As his interest waned, he updated his profile to express dark thoughts about humanity and mass murders.

In 2006, he was involved in a school stabbing incident that resulted from bullying and humiliation.

The School Stabbing Incident

The attack injured four classmates but was not life-threatening; it was linked to his obsession with violent media.

Limited information exists about this case due to its age and location; however, it highlights his troubled mindset.

Evolution into Conspiracy Theories

After distancing himself from gaming content, Gatis began sharing conspiracy theories on YouTube around 2011.

He adopted beliefs associated with Eastern mysticism and questioned morality while discussing topics like the New World Order.

Disturbing Ideologies

His rants included bizarre claims about Satanism in America and critiques of societal norms regarding good and evil.

He rationalized sadistic behavior by suggesting that human judgment on morality is subjective.

Exploring Controversial Beliefs and Actions

The Nature of Beliefs

The speaker discusses the idea that certain beliefs, even if deemed controversial or harmful by others, may not inherently be bad. This perspective challenges the notion of labeling individuals as "brainwashed" or "mentally ill."

Sage's Online Engagement

In 2013, Sage created a forum called "An Instrument for All," which facilitated discussions on various controversial topics. Although the forum is no longer active, it had significant user engagement during its time.

Fringe Beliefs and Practices

Sage promoted practices like "sungazing," which involves staring at the sun to absorb sunlight directly. While sunlight has health benefits, this method raises concerns about safety and rationality.

Shift in Lifestyle and Ideology

By mid-2014, Sage became less active online due to personal reasons and moved from the UK to Berlin. This transition coincided with an intensification of his unconventional beliefs.

Disturbing Confessions

In a video, Sage discusses violent behavior as being influenced by external vibrations that disrupt rational thinking. He also reveals a troubling past incident involving sexual misconduct when he was 16 years old.

Sensitive Topics Addressed Poorly

The speaker notes that Sage often shifts topics abruptly after discussing sensitive issues like pedophilia without adequate reflection or context, raising ethical concerns about his approach.

Allegations of Abuse

Testimonies from individuals who interacted with Sage reveal alarming allegations of abuse towards minors. These claims include grooming behaviors and inappropriate relationships with underage girls.

Recurring Themes in Behavior

Allegations suggest that Sage indoctrinated minors into his ideology while engaging in manipulative behaviors. These patterns are consistent throughout his narrative as reported by various sources.

Transition to Veganism and Extreme Practices

As 2014 progressed, Sage transitioned fully to veganism while practicing extreme fasting techniques linked to sungazing. He claimed to derive nourishment solely from sunlight during this period.

Mental Health Crisis

Following radical lifestyle changes, including prolonged fasting without food intake for a month, Sage spent nearly two months in a psychiatric ward but expressed no regrets about these experiences.

The Journey of Extreme Fasting and Its Consequences

The Experience of Prolonged Fasting

The speaker describes a transformative experience during a period of extreme fasting, stating it was the "clearest purest moment" of his life despite nearly dying.

After over two months without food, he began eating again just two days before hospitalization; his body struggled to adapt, leading to significant muscle loss and overall failure.

Upon being taken to the hospital by police, he weighed under 100 lbs when he should have been at least 160 lbs; refeeding syndrome is mentioned as a potential risk after long fasting.

Hospitalization and Recovery

Initially placed on a fluid-only diet in the hospital to prevent complications, he attempted to remove feeding tubes out of frustration, which led doctors to suspect anorexia.

During his stay in psychiatric care, he resumed solid foods and quickly regained a healthy weight while still advocating for fasting and sun-gazing practices.

Dietary Shifts and Controversial Choices

Transitioning from strict veganism to a keto diet, he eventually adopted an exclusive raw meat and egg diet despite health risks associated with such choices.

He developed food poisoning from consuming contaminated bovine bone marrow but attributed this incident not to dietary choices but rather external contamination (e.g., Chemtrails).

Lifestyle Choices and Financial Support

Despite promoting a hunter-gatherer lifestyle while living off nature, he reveals reliance on disability checks since 2009 due to past psychological evaluations related to self-harm attempts.

Allegations surface regarding kleptomania; he reportedly shoplifted for excitement while encouraging others in online communities.

Philosophical Views on Human Nature

Sage critiques organized religion, suggesting that individuals should embrace their darker urges as natural tendencies rather than suppress them.

He argues that abusive relationships can contain genuine love beneath superficial harm, positing that all human behaviors are part of nature's design.

Craving Human Flesh and the Wisdom of Children

Insights on Human Behavior and Beliefs

The speaker expresses frustration with psychiatric doctors, mentioning a bizarre craving for human flesh during his stay in the hospital, attributing it to their treatment methods.

He argues that children possess greater wisdom and open-mindedness than adults, using personal anecdotes about sunbathing nude to illustrate how societal norms often misjudge children's perspectives.

The discussion shifts to conspiracy theories, particularly the belief that the Illuminati engages in ritual cannibalism, which he claims contributes to children's happiness.

Personal Philosophy and Lifestyle Choices

The speaker describes living in a "man-made" world while asserting his belief in a flat Earth, suggesting that life is akin to a virtual reality shaped by human constructs.

His videos are characterized by incoherent ramblings where he criticizes popular music listeners and vegans, leading to significant personal conflicts with those close to him.

Relationships and Controversial Actions

A notable fallout occurs between the speaker and his friend Tom over differing views on veganism; this split marks a departure from normalcy as Tom had supported him previously.

Following legal troubles related to shoplifting incidents, he is declared legally insane after repeated offenses, indicating a decline in mental stability.

Domestic Life and Allegations

The speaker's relationship with his girlfriend is shrouded in secrecy; accounts suggest she has severe autism and OCD, raising concerns about their dynamic.

Allegations of physical abuse surface alongside claims of financial exploitation from her parents who funded their lifestyle while he reportedly mistreated her.

Anti-Vegan Rhetoric and Dietary Beliefs

An increase in anti-vegan sentiment is noted as he releases a documentary criticizing vegan diets while controversially promoting cannibalism as an alternative due to its perceived nutritional benefits.

He equates vegans with religious zealots clinging blindly to their beliefs; this culminates in advocating for raw meat consumption as superior nutrition.

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High Meat Consumption and Its Philosophy

The Concept of High Meat

The speaker discusses the practice of consuming "high meat," which involves eating sufficiently rotted animal products, suggesting that this is a natural form of nutrition.

He claims that our ancestors were healthier because they consumed raw and rotten animal products, asserting that modern perceptions of disgust towards these foods are due to societal brainwashing.

Health Beliefs and Drug Addiction

The speaker links drug addiction to the lack of consumption of rotten meat, proposing a controversial hypothesis that eating such foods could eliminate addiction.

He mentions his own dietary habits, including not drinking water, believing hydration should come from raw animal products instead.

Personal Experience with High Meat

The speaker has made it a tradition to prepare and eat high meat on camera, comparing this act to juvenile rebellion.

He suggests that his enjoyment in consuming disgusting food reflects an immature mindset akin to middle school antics.

Online Presence and Community Reaction

Despite his fringe beliefs leading to a loss of followers, he continued to gain attention for his extreme views on diet and health.

In 2017, he connected with others who shared similar ideologies, notably participating in provocative acts like counter-protesting veganism by consuming raw animal parts.

Debates on Nutrition and Morality

A debate ensued between him and other carnivores against vegans; however, it was muddled by unclear definitions regarding nutritious diets.

The second half focused on moral superiority between diets but lacked substantial conclusions due to subjective interpretations.

Controversial Statements During Debate

Highlights from the debate included bizarre statements about ethics outside social contexts, showcasing extreme viewpoints that made even opposing parties appear rational.

His contributions during discussions often resulted in incomprehensible ramblings rather than coherent arguments.

Debate on Anti-Murder Laws and Spar's Content Evolution

The Debate and Its Aftermath

The discussion surrounding anti-murder laws is framed as a personal opinion, emphasizing that familial bonds prevent murder. However, the debate devolves into absurdity, making participants appear foolish.

Following the debate, Spar capitalizes on his newfound attention by producing provocative content, such as "Out to Fight," where he claims traditional martial arts are flawed.

Controversial Martial Arts Claims

Spar suggests that instead of conventional fighting techniques like punching or kicking, one should throw rocks at opponents—a notion he believes aligns with primal instincts.

He proposes jumping on opponents to immobilize them but fails to recognize wrestling as an ancient sport that contradicts his claims about fighting methods.

Absurd Fighting Techniques

Spar introduces bizarre tactics in his instructional videos, including biting opponents after immobilization—an impractical approach in real combat scenarios.

His delusions continue when he confidently asserts he could defeat professional fighters like Hafthor Bjornsson without any chance of being touched.

Eccentric Behavior and Content Direction

In a display of erratic behavior, Spar mimics another content creator by consuming raw goat head at a vegan festival and flaunting expensive food purchases online.

His content becomes increasingly convoluted; he critiques extreme right-wing views while simultaneously espousing contradictory beliefs for shock value.

Personal Life Revelations

Midway through 2018, Spar indirectly acknowledges having a girlfriend whose wealthy parents supported his lifestyle—an admission that complicates his narrative of independence.

After breaking up with this girlfriend for another woman named Luna, questions arise regarding the timeline of infidelity and financial dependency on her family.

Financial Exploitation and Audience Engagement

With financial support from fans replacing previous sources, Spar continues to promote an extravagant lifestyle funded by followers who share similar dietary preferences.

Despite low production quality in videos criticizing others' diets—including children—Spar manages to attract a reliable audience with tens of thousands of views per video.

Controversial Claims About Domestic Violence

Shortly after dating Luna publicly, Spar posts a video alleging she was assaulted by migrants; however, speculation arises about whether he himself was responsible for her injuries based on past accusations against him.

Treatment and Controversies Surrounding Luna

Financial Aspects of Treatment

The treatment for Luna raised €5,000, which is unusual given that many European countries have socialized healthcare capable of handling her medical needs.

Despite claiming financial strain due to expensive European medicine, they opted to stay in a costly Airbnb in Ukraine, indicating a lack of cost-cutting measures during a medical emergency.

Airbnb Incident

A review from the Airbnb host described Gatis as the worst guest ever, detailing extensive damage to the apartment including broken dishes and spoiled toilets.

The host accused Gatis of throwing parties and being noisy during their stay, raising questions about their behavior while seeking medical treatment.

Injury Claims and Relationship Dynamics

There are allegations that Luna was injured by a broken window; however, inconsistencies arise regarding whether this injury was pre-existing or fabricated to blame the host.

Observations from a livestream reveal troubling dynamics in their relationship, with Gatis expressing disrespect towards Luna when asked if he respects her.

Disturbing Livestream Moments

During a livestream, Luna appeared distressed after Gatis turned the camera on her multiple times; she eventually left the room visibly upset.

Audio from the stream suggests that Luna was emotionally overwhelmed due to extended streaming time against their agreement; despite this, Gatis continued laughing at her distress.

Ongoing Travel and Public Perception

Following public scrutiny over their relationship dynamics during streams, they continued traveling without paying for accommodations as subscribers hosted them.

After failing to find free lodging in Phoenix, Arizona, Gatis expressed frustration towards locals for not accommodating him and his girlfriend.

Egotistical Behavior and Controversial Actions

Insults and Public Stunts

The speaker describes an individual who has let others down, highlighting their egotistical nature. Despite past insults, some people allowed him to stay at their homes.

This person continued his controversial antics in Australia and Britain, consuming unusual foods like a pig's head and wearing a necklace made of a dead bird.

Criminal Background Revealed

UK news outlets uncovered the individual's criminal record from Latvia, which included attempting to stab schoolmates. He expressed feeling more at home in Ukraine than in Germany due to shared ethnicity.

Legal Troubles and Martyrdom

After being fined for disturbing the peace, he chose to leave the UK rather than face legal consequences. His departure led to increased admiration from his followers, viewing him as a martyr.

Family Dynamics and Financial Issues

The individual had a child with Luna but refused to sign paternity documents for financial support. This decision raised questions about his dignity while relying on donations for living expenses.

Failed Commune Project

He attempted to start a commune in Romania, inviting subscribers to join him. However, this project failed within months due to various issues attributed by him to others' jealousy.

Controversial Claims and Allegations

Admission of Crime

During a livestream about the commune's failure, he laughed while admitting potential property damage claims against him that seemed exaggerated compared to what was reported.

Abandonment of Family

It is suggested that he abandoned Luna and their child when leaving Romania. He blamed others for the commune's collapse without taking personal responsibility.

Speculations About Infidelity

There are rumors regarding infidelity involving both parties; speculation exists that Luna cheated on him while he had relationships with previous partners.

Addiction Issues and Disturbing Behavior

Addiction Allegations

A user claimed that he struggled with severe addiction issues related to pornography and psychiatric medication, corroborated later by Luna’s statements about his behavior.

Violent Incidents

Reports surfaced alleging violent episodes where Luna was threatened during conflicts. Another family provided shelter after these incidents occurred.

Personal Correspondence Exposed

An anonymous poster shared emails revealing his quick declarations of love towards another woman shortly after abandoning his family situation.

Unraveling the Controversial Saga of Sarage

Discomfort and Accusations

A woman expressed discomfort regarding Sarage's behavior, particularly due to his relationship with Luna and his previous comments about interracial couples being unnatural.

Sarage's actions began to lose control of the narrative surrounding him as people started revealing his true character, moving beyond just his followers.

The Romania Incident

Following a stream in Romania, claims emerged that Sarage threatened Luna with violence, including using a knife and making suicidal threats if she did not return.

This situation provided a more plausible explanation for Sarage's abrupt departure from Romania without Luna and their child than previously suggested reasons.

Cheating Allegations

Vegan Gains reported that Luna allegedly cheated on Sarage with someone named Yamasi, which was said to have triggered Sarage’s meltdown.

Yamasi recounted that early in their relationship, Sarage accused Luna of threatening him with a knife, raising questions about the stability of their relationship.

Commune Dynamics

The so-called commune where they stayed turned out to be an Airbnb costing €900 per month; tensions escalated when arguments broke out between Luna and Sarage.

As relationships within the commune evolved, jealousy arose when Yamasi and Luna grew closer, leading to further conflict with Sarage.

Escalation of Violence

Tensions culminated in an incident where Sarage threatened multiple individuals at the commune with a knife before they ultimately left.

In an attempt to defend himself publicly, Sarage made bizarre accusations against others involved in the situation while downplaying his own aggressive behavior.

Surveillance Claims

During his defense video, Sarage mentioned that their living situation was under surveillance due to prior incidents involving broken property.

He claimed that this surveillance indicated he was perceived as a threat; however, it raised doubts about whether such measures were justified based solely on property damage.

Outlandish Accusations

One particularly outrageous claim made by Sarage involved accusing Yamasi of planning to kidnap children for dark web snuff films—an assertion lacking credible evidence.

The Complex Relationship Dynamics and Accusations

Overview of the Situation

The speaker questions the sanity of an individual compared to others in a commune, suggesting that either he is insane or everyone else is.

An Airbnb owner responds to accusations made by this individual, clarifying that police were called due to a serious threat involving a girl in their group, specifically mentioning Gus's girlfriend who was left alone with a child.

Relationship Breakdown

Following a tumultuous relationship with Luna, the speaker expresses shock at its end and blames her for his lack of productivity since 2019.

He claims his intention for sharing his story is to warn others about abusive relationships while also criticizing Luna’s appearance and living conditions.

Allegations of Abuse

The speaker recounts threats from Luna, including being threatened with a knife three months into their relationship and lists various mental health issues he attributes to her.

He describes how she allegedly ruined many of his other relationships and claims that arguments often escalated without him initiating them.

Claims of Physical Violence

The speaker alleges physical violence from Luna, stating she nearly blinded him during one altercation and had previously cut him multiple times.

Despite these claims, he reflects on how he cared more for her than she did for him, leading to their separation where she retained custody of their son.

Escalation of Accusations

After some time apart, the speaker makes further allegations against Luna regarding child abuse and expresses confusion over why Child Protective Services (CPS) has not acted on his reports.

He urges viewers to report her actions as he feels unsupported by authorities despite claiming knowledge of ongoing abuse since the child's birth.

Final Remarks on Support and Accountability

The speaker criticizes Luna's financial behavior while highlighting his own reliance on donations; he accuses her of neglecting their child.

He concludes by reiterating calls for action against Luna while expressing frustration over perceived injustices in their situation.

The Turmoil of Sarage and Luna's Relationship

Weaponization of Audience

Sarage openly used his audience to create a rift between Luna and their son, despite lacking evidence for his claims.

His audience began to express skepticism towards his narratives, leading to negative reactions during his streams.

Luna's Response

Luna clarified on her Patreon that the support she received was genuine and not confused with supporting raw carnivores.

She revealed Sarage was in another relationship and planning to marry, which surprised many followers.

Accusations and Claims

Sarage demanded people stop asking about Luna while claiming he had been with multiple women since their breakup.

He made serious allegations against Luna’s family without providing any evidence, including accusations of abuse.

Community Backlash

Sarage attempted to rewrite the narrative regarding his past actions towards Luna, denying previous calls for action against her.

His community began distancing themselves from him as other content creators shared negative experiences with him.

Lady May's Revelations

Lady May described Sarage as manipulative during their time together in San Francisco, contrasting him with a grateful and polite Luna.

She noted Sarage's poor skin condition hidden by filters, highlighting hypocrisy in his criticisms of others' appearances.

Diet Controversies

It was revealed that the diet Sarage promoted was not originally created by him but borrowed from another source.

Allegations arose that he secretly consumed foods contradicting his strict dietary philosophy.

Disturbing Allegations

Lady May hesitated to comment on the nature of relationships but mentioned observing a bruise on Luna’s leg during her stay.

A user recounted a troubling past relationship with Sarage, detailing emotional manipulation and threats.

Sage's Controversial Past and Allegations

Relationship Dynamics and Manipulation

The speaker recounts a troubling relationship where they were pressured into compromising situations, including sharing intimate photos. This manipulation led to the decision to block the individual involved.

The relationship escalated to family conflicts, with the speaker's brother being removed from an online clan due to this situation, highlighting the broader impact of personal relationships on familial ties.

Allegations Resurfacing

Around the same time as personal drama, allegations about Sage's past began circulating on platforms like 4chan, indicating a growing infamy that attracted public scrutiny.

A disturbing anecdote surfaced involving a missing girl in Bulgaria, raising questions about Sage’s whereabouts during that time. Although speculative, it reflects concerns regarding his character.

Online Presence and Reputation Management

In response to mounting allegations, Sage initiated a campaign of copyright takedowns and content deletions aimed at erasing negative digital footprints while maintaining his public persona.

A new channel named "Flat Chest Luna" emerged, featuring candid videos of Luna that appeared to be recorded without her consent. This suggests ongoing manipulation and threats against her.

Philosophy on Forgiveness

Sage released a video titled "Never Forgive Anyone," where he dismisses forgiveness as a weakness. This perspective raises ethical questions about his worldview and how it influences his actions towards others.

New Relationships Under Scrutiny

In May 2021, Jasmine (also known as Jazz the Physicist), claimed to be engaged to Sage via Discord messages. Her revelations sparked interest among followers who began investigating her background.

Jasmine’s transformation from an accomplished writer to a conspiracy theorist illustrates potential psychological impacts stemming from her relationship with Sage.

Jasmine's Background and Public Persona

Jasmine had various tumultuous relationships prior to meeting Sage, which included unconventional dynamics that may have contributed to her current state.

Despite having dealt with significant mental health issues and substance use, Jasmine attempted to maintain an online presence through creative outlets like podcasts related to popular culture.

Tensions Between Jasmine and Sage

There are indications of tension between Jasmine and Sage; she expressed intentions of confronting him publicly during streams but was systematically erased from his content.

As tensions escalated within their relationship dynamic, Jasmine sought support from others in their community while voicing concerns over drastic actions by Sage regarding Luna.

Relationship Dynamics and Manipulation

The Nature of Vage's Relationships

Vage previously threatened Luna regarding her Patreon, indicating a manipulative dynamic in their relationship.

Sidge engaged in a scam by claiming to have lost his camera to solicit donations, raising $4,000 from viewers.

Following a breakup with a Canadian girl, Jazmin expressed her frustrations through an audio message filled with raw emotions.

Jazmin's Emotional Outburst

Jazmin's audio revealed deep-seated resentment towards Vage, criticizing his need for admiration over genuine love.

The Canadian girl was later identified as Catherine, who made significant life changes to be with Vage.

Deceptive Behavior and Lies

Despite claims of moving on, Vage continued to lie about his location and circumstances surrounding his relationship with Catherine.

He attempted to garner sympathy through a video titled "Please Help Me See My Son," comparing his time with Luna to torture.

Financial Exploitation

Vage requested donations for legal fees while having recently spent large sums on travel and personal expenses.

He failed to maintain transparency regarding the funds received from donations despite promising accountability.

Emotional Manipulation and Pity

In another video, he lamented about feeling unloved after being ghosted by both Luna and Catherine.

His focus seemed more on losing Catherine than on the well-being of his son, raising questions about his priorities.

Strange Developments Post-Breakup

A new channel named "Cathy the Great" emerged shortly after the breakup, suggesting manipulation behind its creation.

Comments indicated that uploads might not be genuinely from Catherine but orchestrated by Sidge due to inconsistencies in content style.

Catherine and Sarage: A Complicated Relationship

The Context of Online Interactions

The narrative begins with a reference to "spar's pretentious yet syntactically broken English," indicating a critique of communication styles in online interactions. It highlights how Catherine's hometown and full name were disclosed, paralleling past behaviors towards Luna.

Sish claims that Catherine is out of reach and possibly back in Canada, suggesting the creation of the Cathy the Great channel as an attempt to lure her back into engagement.

Escalation of Tensions

After a significant period, Sarage reappears in a video addressing his son, expressing hope that his subscribers will show it to him when he is older. This indicates a shift in focus from personal relationships to familial connections.

In this video, Sarage reiterates previous claims about Luna while introducing new allegations that she hired someone to assault him and his subscriber, which raises questions about credibility.

Accusations and Mental Health Claims

Sarage avoids addressing criticisms directly, instead labeling both Luna and Catherine as sociopaths responsible for their relationship issues. This reflects a pattern of deflection and blame-shifting.

He discusses Cathy's mental health publicly, claiming she has BPD (Borderline Personality Disorder), using what appears to be coerced footage where she discusses her mental state under duress.

Manipulation and Control

The nature of the recorded confession suggests premeditation on Sarage's part; it resembles a hostage situation rather than an open discussion about mental health issues.

Sarage’s framing of Cathy's family dynamics serves as an attack disguised as an attempt at healing. He accuses them of contributing to her problems while simultaneously revealing personal details without consent.

Exploiting Personal Issues

He claims that his trip to Canada was intended for confrontation with Cathy's father but uses vague evidence to support these assertions, raising doubts about their validity.

Throughout the video, he presents information regarding Cathy's family life that seems more aimed at discrediting them than providing genuine insight into her struggles or background.

Final Reflections on Relationships

Evidence presented by Sarage often lacks context or relevance; he focuses on trivial aspects rather than substantial issues affecting Cathy’s well-being or family relations.

The culmination of these videos appears designed primarily for character assassination rather than constructive dialogue or resolution regarding past relationships.

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Analysis of Manipulative Relationships and Disturbing Claims

The Impact of Manipulation on Personal Identity

The speaker critiques Spage's narrative, highlighting that Cathy's self-awareness and articulate expression about her past indicate a stark contrast to the persona adopted after their relationship.

It is suggested that Spage manipulated Cathy, isolating her from family and exacerbating her existing issues, showcasing a pattern of emotional abuse.

Allegations Against Spage

A comment claims that Spage has a violent history, including an incident in which he allegedly assaulted Cathy, leading to legal repercussions preventing him from entering Canada.

Further allegations include claims of kidnapping during a Skype call for financial gain and theft of personal belongings, raising serious concerns about his behavior.

Online Presence and Control

Despite being silent online, Cathy's account appeared to support Spage's narrative, suggesting manipulation or control over her social media presence.

Comments on Cathy's account indicated potential exploitation with hints at releasing more intimate content without her consent.

Community Reactions and New Developments

The emergence of Primal Bell as a new figure in the narrative shows how some individuals still sympathize with Spage despite the allegations against him.

Speculation arises regarding Spage’s financial motives behind his actions, including possible cosmetic procedures funded by exploiting followers.

Controversial Views on Women and Consent

In an April 2022 video titled "A Woman's Purpose," Spage promotes controversial views on women's roles tied to pregnancy while dismissing the pain associated with childbirth as a result of delayed motherhood.

He controversially argues that societal norms around consent are artificially constructed to undermine family structures, reflecting deeply problematic ideologies.

Public Backlash and Hypocrisy

Following his remarks on consent age, even loyal fans began distancing themselves due to his extreme views; this backlash highlights the limits of tolerance within his audience.

His contradictory statements regarding relationships with women older than 18 reveal hypocrisy in his arguments about age appropriateness for motherhood.

The Rise and Fall of Sarage: A YouTube Saga

The Infamy Boost

Commenter backlash against Sarage, described as a "true intellect," leads to increased attention from other creators like Noah Samson.

Sarage receives significant donations, including one Bitcoin valued at around $40,000, which he publicly thanks the donor for in a video.

Legal Troubles and Channel Ban

Following claims of being robbed in Kazakhstan, Sarage's channel gets banned; he announces plans to sue Google for half a million euros.

Despite his ambitious legal claims, no substantial action appears to materialize; he resorts to hosting older videos on Telegram.

Personal Struggles and Relationships

In 2022, new revelations about Bell emerge as she admits past physical abuse by a partner; similar patterns are noted with Luna.

Conversations with Bell yield no change in her views despite alarming statements made by Sarage regarding serious topics.

Changes in Appearance and Philosophy

As 2023 begins, viewers notice Sarage's sudden hair regrowth—speculation arises whether it's due to natural methods or cosmetic procedures.

Meanwhile, Primal Bell becomes less active online but later posts an unusual pregnancy announcement that raises suspicions about its authenticity.

Scrutiny and Critique

Investigation into Bell's Instagram photo reveals manipulated backgrounds; this sparks concerns over their attempts to conceal their true location.

As Primal Bell’s content disappears from her channel, Catherine re-emerges with critiques of Sarage’s lifestyle promotion without practical guidance for followers.

Reflections on Influence and Control

Catherine discusses how her relationship with Sarage shifted from seeking attention to experiencing control over her life choices.

She acknowledges starting the relationship for personal gain but ultimately highlights the negative dynamics that led to her departure.

Kathy's Experience with Sarage

Kathy's Self-Perception and Manipulation Awareness

Kathy largely blames herself for her situation, not viewing herself as a victim. Her awareness of Sarage's manipulation tactics likely prevented him from fully isolating her from her family.

Despite being capable of handling the situation, Kathy chose not to highlight Sarage's character and preferred to move on, indicating a desire for closure.

Aftermath of Video Uploads

The channel where Kathy uploaded videos was taken down shortly after; it's unclear if this was her decision or due to Sarage's influence.

Sarage responded by posting a Skype call they had, where he discussed Kathy’s psychological diagnoses, using them against her publicly despite her request for privacy.

Allegations Against Sarage

Kathy claimed that Sarage never used drugs or alcohol during high school; however, this contradicts previous allegations involving another girl who was intoxicated at the time of an incident.

In 2022, an acid attack occurred against an unidentified woman near her home. This incident later connected to arson in January 2023 when two suspects were arrested.

Connections and Claims Regarding Violence

Ethan Bishop reported that during their relationship, Sarage confessed to hiring someone for the acid attack on Luna and later burning down her house.

This claim remained unverified initially but stirred significant community interest and skepticism regarding its authenticity.

Community Reactions and Investigations

An exchange between Katherine and Mario revealed tensions over the credibility of information regarding attacks on Luna. Mario accused Katherine of complicity in harmful actions towards Luna.

The community expressed disappointment in both Ethan for lack of evidence supporting his claims and in Kathy for underestimating the severity of Sarage’s actions.

Investigation into Past Incidents

Investigators noted that articles about the Dutch woman included identifiable details like addresses which led them back to videos posted by Sarage during his relationship with Kathy.

A video showed an altercation involving Sarage while he falsely claimed he was in Canada instead of being present in the Netherlands where Luna lived.

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Investigation into the Acid Attack on Luna

Geolocation and Betrayal

The footage of Gattis running was geolocated near the site of an acid attack, suggesting a connection to the incident.

A comment from someone named Ben indicated that Luna had trusted someone online with her address, which may have led to betrayal and a murder attempt.

Escalation of Violence

A male friend intervened during an earlier attack on Luna, recording himself beating up Sarage, who fled when he realized he couldn't carry out the attack himself.

Moradel posted a video discussing these developments, leading Kathy to change her stance towards Sarage and make accusations against him.

Threatening Behavior

Kathy revealed that Gus frequently expressed violent intentions towards Luna, including threats to throw acid in her face or burn down her house.

Kathy described being physically abused by Gus, including threats with a knife and forced confinement when she attempted to leave.

Communication Issues

Kathy shared evidence of her abuse through a passport photo showing her shaved head as proof of Gus's control over her.

She attempted to warn Belle about Sarage but received strange responses, possibly due to Sarage monitoring communications.

Admission of Complicity

In subsequent videos, Kathy admitted that while she did not participate in the acid attack directly, she was involved in planning violence against Luna.

She expressed remorse for her involvement and acknowledged that this could lead to legal consequences for herself.

Blackmail and Intimidation

Following these revelations, Sarage threatened Kathy publicly on his channel while sharing sensitive information about her family.

He directed followers to visit Kathy's family members as part of his intimidation tactics after she removed videos detailing their interactions.

Current Situation and New Developments

Reports indicated that Belle was under duress in a foreign country without financial control or freedom due to Sarage's actions.

Despite previous tensions, Belle resurfaced online with images of her child unharmed amidst ongoing investigations into the acid attack.

CCTV Footage Release

A CCTV video surfaced showing the acid attack on Luna; although graphic details were absent, screams were audible in the background.

The attacker identified as Ilas claimed he acted under threat from Luna’s former partner (an avid vlogger), revealing complex relationships tied to domestic violence.

Crisis and Conspiracy: The Dark Side of Online Communities

The Mother's Plight

Discussion begins with the implications of a mother holding her toddler during a crisis, highlighting the potential dangers she faced that night.

Bill's deflection of criticisms is noted, as he avoids addressing serious allegations against him while an account on Kiwi Farms appears to defend Sarage and attack Luna.

Legal Developments and Allegations

Cathy sends a letter to court detailing new accusations against Sarage, including claims of physical abuse and threats made against her.

Specific incidents are recounted where German Carnivore allegedly attempted to harm Luna, including violent threats and attempts at control over her life.

Escalation of Threats

Luna reveals her own struggles with financial control by Sarage, who threatened her life if she tried to escape. This adds depth to the ongoing narrative of manipulation and fear.

Despite these alarming revelations, Luna continues to express skepticism about Primal Bell's victim status, suggesting complicity in the situation.

Court Outcomes and Reactions

The court case results in a prison sentence for Ilas but raises questions about its effectiveness in resolving the broader issues at play.

Belle’s response to rumors surrounding an acid attack is described as vague; she avoids naming individuals involved or acknowledging any wrongdoing on her part.

Ongoing Manipulations

Belle claims she's being blackmailed with suggestive photos; however, they appear to be from a professional shoot rather than compromising material.

Sarage remains active online with controversial religious messages while attempting to conceal his location from authorities.

Evasion Tactics and Public Safety Concerns

Despite attempts at evasion, Sarage's whereabouts have been tracked multiple times across different countries. His actions raise concerns about future criminal activities.

The discussion highlights failures by various governments in preventing Sarage’s continued crimes against women and fraud against donors.

Conclusion: A Call for Action

There is an urgent plea for intervention before further harm comes to victims like Belle or others associated with Sarage.