Who They Are | Leslie & Stephen Shaw [What Are The Origins of UFO Intelligence?]

Who They Are | Leslie & Stephen Shaw [What Are The Origins of UFO Intelligence?]

UFO Phenomenon and the Crypto-Terrestrial Hypothesis

Origins of the Theory

  • The discussion begins with a reference to a book and documentary that present novel theories about UFOs, particularly focusing on their origins.
  • Stephen's family has a history of abductions spanning four generations, prompting an investigation into these experiences.
  • The speaker shares personal background: military service, martial arts training, acupuncture practice, and music—all contributing to his understanding of the phenomenon.

Research Journey

  • The speaker's first UFO sighting 20 years ago was transformative, leading him to believe in the phenomena described by others.
  • Initial research aligned with theories suggesting extraterrestrial origins but failed to fit all observed data.
  • Introduction of the crypto-terrestrial theory provided clarity; it suggests these entities are not from distant star systems but rather terrestrial beings.

Understanding Crypto-Terrestrials

  • The term "crypto-terrestrial" is clarified; it does not refer solely to cryptids like Bigfoot but indicates beings that are Earth-based.
  • Reference made to Mtani’s book on crypto-terrestrials, which influenced their understanding despite its posthumous publication.

Cultural Context and Misconceptions

  • Many people default to extraterrestrial explanations due to cultural influences from media like Star Trek and Star Wars.
  • There is a desire for alien narratives that align with popular culture, which may cloud objective analysis of evidence.

Defining Relationships with Entities

  • The speakers prefer calling these entities "cousins" instead of aliens, emphasizing familial connections based on historical encounters.
  • They argue that consistent sightings over decades indicate these beings are residents on Earth rather than visitors.
  • A focus on DNA and bloodlines reveals a pattern where these entities show interest in human genetics across generations.

The Nature of Abductions and Alien Encounters

Patterns in Abduction Cases

  • The phenomenon of abduction often recurs across generations, affecting not just individuals but their families, including siblings and descendants.
  • Reports from abductees indicate that some women claim to have been impregnated by aliens, suggesting a non-consensual sexual encounter rather than a scientific process like in vitro fertilization.

Characteristics of Alleged Aliens

  • The description of aliens as bipedal hominids raises questions about their evolutionary origins, particularly regarding the transition from arboreal to terrestrial living.
  • Observations of physical traits such as nipples on these beings imply they may have once been lactating mammals, further hinting at a shared biological heritage with humans.

Government Secrecy and Historical Context

  • There is speculation about numerous underground facilities related to alien encounters that are tightly controlled by governments worldwide, indicating a significant cover-up.
  • Historical events like Orson Welles' 1938 broadcast highlight societal fears surrounding the acknowledgment of extraterrestrial life and its potential impact on religion and governance.

The Great Flood Theory

  • The speaker discusses the prevalence of flood myths across cultures, suggesting a historical event that could correlate with global cataclysms experienced thousands of years ago.
  • Evidence such as nano diamonds found in ancient soil points towards celestial impacts around 13,000 years ago that may have led to mass extinctions.

Implications for Human History

  • A hypothesis is presented that humanity was more advanced 13,000 years ago than currently believed, possibly possessing technology akin to modern capabilities before being devastated by catastrophic events.
  • This theory posits that an advanced civilization might have retreated underground for survival during these disasters, leading to genetic bottlenecks observed in contemporary human DNA.

The Impact of the Younger Dryas Comet on Humanity

Climate Catastrophe and Human Survival

  • The northern hemisphere experienced simultaneous forest fires, attributed to the Younger Dryas comet, leading humans to retreat underground for survival.
  • Following the comet impact, there was approximately 1100 years of severe climate upheaval characterized by extreme weather conditions.

The Ultraterrestrial Hypothesis

  • Discussion references a paper by Hal Puthoff on the ultraterrestrial hypothesis, suggesting that UFO phenomena may be linked to an indigenous intelligence that either went into hiding or off-world due to cataclysmic events.
  • This intelligence could represent a breakaway branch of humanity capable of interbreeding with current humans.

Psychic Abilities and Genetic Links

  • Research indicates certain brain areas are hyperdeveloped in psychics and remote viewers, particularly among abductees from Scottish and Cherokee backgrounds.
  • Personal anecdotes reveal experiences with psychic abilities within families, suggesting a genetic component tied to these phenomena.

Perspectives on Extraterrestrial Intelligence

  • Inquiry into whether this intelligence is indifferent, nefarious, or benevolent; responses suggest they are primarily self-serving with their own survival agenda.
  • Reference to Maslow's hierarchy of needs emphasizes survival as a fundamental driving force behind their actions.

Historical Patterns of Cataclysms

  • Research reveals that extinction-level events occur more frequently than commonly believed; historical flood myths often include themes of advanced knowledge preceding disasters.
  • After such cataclysms, narratives emerge about beings returning to assist humanity in rebuilding civilization post-disaster.

Advanced Knowledge and Civilizational Rebuilding

  • There is speculation about ancient civilizations having advanced astronomical knowledge allowing them to foresee catastrophic events but being powerless to prevent them.
  • Post-cataclysmic figures (like Enoch’s watchers) are thought to have returned out of pity for humanity's plight and possibly for genetic reasons related to DNA preservation.

UAP Activity and Underwater Bases

  • Mention of literature discussing Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), including potential underwater bases; however, it is suggested that bases would not survive ocean pressures.
  • Speculation exists regarding hollowed mountains or volcanoes serving as operational bases rather than deep-sea locations.

Exploring Subsurface Life and Telepathy

The Concept of Lava Tubes as Concealed Pathways

  • Volcanoes possess extensive lava tubes that can serve as hidden routes for ships, allowing them to launch undetected into the ocean.
  • Humans are characterized by their inventiveness and adaptability; subsurface living could lead to generational changes in behavior and environment.

Generational Adaptation to Subsurface Living

  • Subsequent generations born underground may develop agoraphobia, while others might feel claustrophobic and desire to return to the surface.
  • Mutations observed in these populations resemble adaptations seen in troglodytes, such as larger eyes and paler skin due to low-light environments.

Bioluminescence and Human Abilities

  • Some humans exhibit bioluminescent traits under certain conditions, akin to spiritual practices that enhance this ability.
  • Telepathy is presented not as a complex skill but rather a fundamental form of communication inherent in human nature.

Misunderstandings About Telepathy

  • Telepathy is often misconstrued; it operates on a subconscious level where thoughts manifest chemically rather than through language.
  • The idea that telepathy requires similar brain structures across species is challenged; effective telepathic communication may be limited between different races.

Impact of Modern Technology on Communication

  • The prevalence of technology has distorted our natural telepathic abilities, likening it to fish unaware of water.
  • Increased exposure to rapid stimuli from devices leads us into higher beta wave frequencies, making meditation and deeper states of consciousness more challenging.

Meditation Practices for Enhanced Awareness

  • Tai Chi is recommended as a moving meditation practice that opens chakras and enhances psychic awareness.
  • Learning techniques from Gnosticism can further aid in developing skills like astral projection, which some abductees have reported experiencing.

Astral Projection and Alien Encounters

The Role of Family in Astral Projection

  • Discussion on how certain family members discourage astral projection, suggesting a desire to keep individuals from discovering hidden truths.
  • Mention of "cousins" who have historically played god-like roles, now presenting themselves as space aliens, with references to the Pleiades constellation being misidentified as a place.

Gateway Program and Out-of-Body Experiences

  • Inquiry into the Gateway program's revival, which utilizes binaural beats for facilitating out-of-body experiences and astral projection.
  • Personal anecdotes about studying astral projection through literature rather than formal training at the Monroe Institute.

Near-Death Experiences (NDEs)

  • Sharing personal NDE experiences that suggest a connection between these events and alien encounters or guidance.
  • Anecdote about an uncle's life-saving encounter with an entity during World War II, highlighting themes of protection and abduction.

Repeated Encounters Across Generations

  • Description of familial connections to entities like Ogleley, emphasizing how these encounters span generations and locations.
  • Observations on how these phenomena differ from typical hauntings due to their persistent nature across different countries.

Unexplained Phenomena

  • Reference to magnetized coins as evidence of unexplained occurrences within the family context.
  • Detailed account of a personal experience involving an entity that paralyzed part of the body while communicating directly by name.

Encountering the Unknown: A Personal Abduction Experience

Initial Encounter with Oak Legley

  • The speaker reflects on a significant encounter with Oak Legley, recalling feelings of fear and curiosity. They express a duality of wanting to engage in conversation while feeling immobilized by fear.

Aftermath of the Experience

  • Following the encounter, the speaker describes blacking out and later recounts an unusual experience involving magnetic coins six hours later at 11:30 PM.
  • All coins pulled from their pocket were magnetic, including standard American coins like quarters and dimes, which could be picked up in groups.

Exposure to Electromagnetic Fields

  • The speaker suggests that during their abduction, they were exposed to a powerful electromagnetic field that left residual effects even after several hours.

Memory Tampering and Perception Alteration

  • The discussion shifts to memory tampering, where individuals recall their abductors as various entities (e.g., gnomes or owls), indicating possible manipulation of memories.
  • The phenomenon is linked to "screen memories," suggesting that these altered recollections may serve as a defense mechanism against traumatic experiences.

Technological and Psychic Influences

  • There is speculation about whether beings involved in abductions use technological or psychic means—or both—to influence human perception.

Astral Interaction and Communication

  • The idea emerges that some abductions involve taking not just the physical body but also the astral body for monitoring purposes. This raises questions about how these beings interact with humans psychically.

Brain Wave Frequencies and Communication Channels

  • The speaker discusses how certain brain structures might allow individuals to perceive different frequencies or channels used by extraterrestrial entities for communication.

Development Through Interaction

  • A question arises regarding whether interactions with these beings can enhance cognitive abilities or brain development. It’s suggested that such beings may see potential in certain individuals worth enhancing.

UFOs and Human Interaction: A Complex Relationship

The Nature of Alien Interest in Humanity

  • Discussion on the perceived interest of aliens, particularly a breakaway branch of the Caucasian race, in human genetic material. This raises questions about their motivations for interacting with humanity.
  • The alignment of interests between humans and these entities is highlighted, especially regarding nuclear weapons. The aliens are believed to be concerned about humanity's potential for self-destruction.
  • Continuous monitoring by UFOs during military maneuvers suggests a vested interest in nuclear activities, indicating that these entities may fear the consequences of human warfare.

Disclosure and Government Involvement

  • Questions arise about who controls the disclosure of UFO phenomena. There is speculation whether it is the aliens or governments that wish to keep this information hidden from the public.
  • It is suggested that various governments, including Russia and China, are involved in reverse engineering technology derived from UFO encounters, hinting at a collaborative effort among nations.

Historical Agreements and Technology Exchange

  • Speculation around President Eisenhower's alleged treaty with advanced human-like beings rather than extraterrestrial aliens. This agreement purportedly involved exchanges of technology for genetic material.
  • The focus on denuclearization as a primary goal for these entities indicates their concern over global security issues related to nuclear weapons.

Public Perception and Debunking Efforts

  • There are efforts to debunk UFO sightings by organizations like Arrow, which claim to disprove certain videos without addressing their true nature or origin.
  • Despite claims of debunking evidence such as the Go Fast video, there remains ambiguity regarding what these objects truly represent or how they operate.

Increased Sightings and Energy Lines

  • Reports suggest an increase in UFO sightings near energy lines or ley lines, particularly along significant geographical parallels like the 33rd parallel.
  • The conversation shifts towards personal accounts and experiences with UFO sightings being more common than generally perceived by society.

Perspectives on Alien Intentions

  • Reference to Karen Wilkinson’s views on alien interactions suggests skepticism about their intentions toward humanity; she describes her experiences involving hybrid children linked to alien encounters.

Alien Abduction Phenomenon and Its Implications

Family Background and Health Issues

  • The speaker discusses a family member who has a military background, living along the 33rd parallel, and has faced numerous health issues throughout her life.

Perception of Aliens

  • There is a debate on whether the alien abduction phenomenon could be the source of demon and vampire myths, with some suggesting that these entities are not demons but rather aliens preying on humanity.
  • The discussion highlights how these aliens act in self-serving ways, using humans as incubators for their needs.

Government Knowledge and Secrecy

  • The speaker believes that the government possesses significant knowledge about alien activities but keeps this information compartmentalized to prevent widespread understanding.
  • Drawing parallels to the Manhattan Project, it is suggested that secrecy is maintained by ensuring individuals only know parts of a larger operation.

Trauma from Abductions

  • The trauma associated with abductions is discussed, indicating that it can lead to PTSD. There are claims that some abducted individuals may never return.

Missing Persons Cases

  • The conversation shifts to missing persons cases in Alaska, where there are suspicions that some disappearances may be linked to alien activity.
  • It’s noted that Alaska has reported 16,000 missing persons over 30 years; while some may have died naturally, others might have been abducted.

Connection to Germanic Background

  • A pattern emerges regarding missing individuals often having Germanic backgrounds; this raises questions about potential targeting based on ethnicity.

Public Readiness for Disclosure

  • The speaker reflects on whether society can handle disclosure about extraterrestrial existence. They suggest people today might be more desensitized compared to previous generations due to exposure through media.

Skepticism About Future Disclosure

  • Despite growing acceptance of alien concepts in popular culture, there remains skepticism about whether true disclosure will occur within our lifetimes due to the implications it would have for government accountability.

Understanding Disclosure and Evidence

The Nature of News Reporting

  • Discussion on the evolution of news reporting, highlighting the distinction between syndicate news and local news. Local reporters are essential for covering events firsthand.

Circumstantial Evidence Explained

  • Example provided about waking up to unexpected snowfall as a metaphor for circumstantial evidence; just because one did not witness an event does not negate its occurrence.

The Impact of Technology on Trust

  • Commentary on how advancements in technology, particularly CGI, have made it difficult to trust video evidence despite everyone having cameras readily available.

Encouragement for Independent Research

  • Emphasis on the importance of conducting personal research rather than relying solely on internet sources. Suggestions include reading books and practicing mindfulness techniques like Tai Chi.

Promotion of Their Work

  • Mention of their book published in 2022, which includes updated information regarding congressional hearings and UFO news, reflecting ongoing developments in these areas.

Recent Discoveries Supporting Ancient Theories

Anunnaki Findings in Central America

  • Discussion about recent archaeological discoveries in Central Mexico that suggest a historical connection to the Anunnaki as theorized by Zecharia Sitchin.

Enki's Kingdom Discovery

  • New findings indicate the existence of Enki's kingdom in South Africa with mines dating back 200,000 years, suggesting a vast ancient civilization previously unnoticed until viewed from space.

Historical Context and Significance

  • Description of geographical features related to Sitchin’s theories, including references to significant rivers and lakes that align with ancient texts describing locations tied to water sources.

Revisiting Sitchin's Legacy

Controversy Surrounding Sitchin's Work

  • Discussion about the refusal by institutions like the British Museum to conduct DNA testing on artifacts linked to Sitchin’s theories during his lifetime, contributing to skepticism around his work.

Call for Reevaluation

  • A plea for people to reassess Sitchin’s contributions as new discoveries increasingly validate his claims against previous criticisms that dismissed his interpretations too hastily.

Misinterpretations and Nuances

  • Acknowledgment that minor errors or misinterpretations should not discredit decades of research; nuances in translations can lead to significant misunderstandings regarding ancient texts.

The Missing Link in Our Understanding of Anomalous Phenomena

The Role of Forgotten History

  • Discussion on the concept of a "missing link" in understanding our past, emphasizing that many cultures have stories about entities and anomalous phenomena that are often overlooked or concealed.
  • Reference to the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Vatican's initial reluctance to release them, raising questions about why certain historical documents are kept from public knowledge.

Control Over Narratives

  • The conversation highlights how control over information can stem from narratives that do not align with established belief systems or dogmas, suggesting a deliberate effort to suppress knowledge about our origins.

Resources for Further Exploration

  • Information provided on where to find their book titled Who They Are and What They're Up To by Leslie and Steven Shaw, available on Amazon and other platforms.
  • Details shared about their documentary Who They Are, accessible on various streaming services including Roku, Fawsome, Plex, Tubi, Zumo, and Apple TV.

Engagement with Audience

  • Invitation for audience interaction through their Instagram page for questions regarding their work. Mention of upcoming Spanish editions and audiobooks of their material.

Additional Content Platforms

  • Overview of their show titled Abductions 101: UFOs and the Paranormal Connection, which is available on YouTube. Links to all resources will be provided in the description for easy access.
Video description

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