Clown Car: 7/6/23

Introduction and Preview

In this section, the hosts introduce themselves and discuss their previous podcast episode where they previewed the upcoming SFFA (Students for Fair Admissions) Harvard decision. They mention that the decision has been released and share their initial thoughts.

Initial Thoughts on the Decision

• The hosts mention that they have written articles and tweet threads discussing their takes on the Harvard decision.

• They express curiosity about how much of the reasoning behind this decision will be applied outside of the university context.

• There is a discussion about potential ways to enforce this ruling, including bringing similar cases and utilizing bureaucratic levers in a potential Republican Administration.

Excitement for Potential Changes

In this section, the hosts discuss their excitement about potential changes that could result from enforcing a colorblind standard in American corporations.

Enforcing Colorblind Standard

• The hosts express excitement about potentially enforcing a colorblind standard in American corporations.

• They believe that such enforcement could undo some of the cover-your-ass incentives for companies to be racially neutral in hiring and promotion.

Cross-Pollination of Legal Analysis

In this section, there is a discussion about how legal analysis between different contexts can influence each other.

Cross-Pollination of Legal Analysis

• The hosts discuss how legal analysis between constitutional analysis, statute analysis, and civil rights statutes tend to jump from one to another.

• They hope that constructs or judicial phrases related to equal treatment under the law can be applied across various contexts.

Incremental Changes in Civil Rights Regime

In this section, there is a discussion about incremental changes within the civil rights regime and how it affects the impact of a single decision.

Incremental Changes in Civil Rights Regime

• The hosts mention that changes within the civil rights regime are often incremental, with courts setting precedents that influence future decisions.

• They acknowledge that the impact of a single decision may not completely change everything, but it sends a message and influences subsequent actions by bureaucrats, lawyers, and judges.

Effects on Institutions

In this section, the hosts discuss the potential effects of the Harvard decision on institutions like law reviews.

Effects on Institutions

• The hosts mention an article about racial quotas in Columbia Law Journal's law review and how they are now delaying announcements to ensure compliance with potential changes.

• They express excitement about potential changes in universities but also acknowledge that universities may find ways to get around the ruling due to their ideological commitment to left-wing ideas.

Impact Beyond Universities

In this section, there is a discussion about the impact of the Harvard decision beyond universities.

Impact Beyond Universities

• The hosts mention that while universities may try to find ways around the ruling, there will still be an impact on other aspects of society such as K-12 education.

• They acknowledge that dealing with bad actions from universities will be challenging but emphasize the importance of addressing issues outside of university settings.

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The speaker discusses the differences in bureaucratic hooks and funding between K-12 education and universities, highlighting the significant dependence of universities on federally backed student loans and grants.

Funding Differences

• The amount of money coming from the federal treasury for K-12 education is much less compared to universities.

• Approximately 10 or 11% of funding comes from the federal government on a state-by-state basis for K-12 education.

• Universities heavily rely on federally backed student loans and grants, without which they would struggle to operate.

Bureaucratic Leverage

• Universities are more susceptible to bureaucratic leverage due to their dependence on federal funds.

• The Obama Administration used investigations and threat of investigation to influence discipline standards in K-12 education.

• Compliance with constitutional obligations could be enforced by attaching a writer to title IV funds for universities.

Financial Consequences

• Financial consequences have a greater impact in the university context than in K-12 education.

• Universities often settle cases related to First Amendment rights violations or due process violations rather than risk backlash from the campus community.

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The speaker emphasizes that there are ways for an administration to make universities miserable through bureaucratic means, citing examples of past infringements on constitutional obligations and restrictions on free speech.

University Challenges

• Universities face challenges regarding First Amendment rights and due process violations despite court rulings in favor of individuals' rights.

• Some universities prioritize appeasing the "woke mob" over upholding individual rights, considering legal settlements as part of doing business.

• Bureaucratic leverage can be used to hold universities accountable for constitutional obligations and restrict their actions.

Importance of Elections

• The next president's appointments to the judiciary and government agencies will shape policies regarding universities and civil rights.

• The decision-making power of the government, including investigatory powers, can influence university practices.

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The speaker highlights the significance of elections in determining the direction of policies related to universities and civil rights.

Republican Administration

• A competent Republican administration is not necessarily required to bring about change in university policies.

• Appointments to key positions play a crucial role in shaping policies related to universities.

• Republicans and conservatives understand the dynamics involved in dealing with universities' influence on policy matters.

Believers in the Prophet Motive

This section discusses the concept of expressive conduct and its relation to freedom of speech.

Expressive Conduct and Freedom of Speech

• The case involving Jack Phillips was primarily done under religious liberty, as it involved discrimination against him based on his religion.

• Expressive conduct refers to conduct that is considered a form of expression, such as creating a website or selling artwork on Etsy.

• There is a distinction between conduct and speech in the First Amendment. While speech is generally protected, certain types of conduct may not be.

• It can be challenging to determine whether certain actions are considered conduct or speech. For example, following someone down the street while screaming slurs at them raises questions about free speech versus harassment.

• Building a website, like what Jack Phillips did, falls under expressive conduct. It is similar to what an artist does or when someone sells their artwork on Etsy.

• The case highlights the importance of expressive conduct as a form of free speech. For instance, if an artist refuses to paint a portrait with specific political messages they disagree with, it is seen as essential to free speech.

The Speech-Conduct Distinction

This section explores the distinction between speech and action and its implications for cases like Jack Phillips'.

Speech versus Action

• Differentiating between speech and action has been an ongoing challenge for the Supreme Court.

• In cases where both parties agree that something constitutes expressive conduct (protected speech), this distinction becomes crucial.

• Justice Sotomayor's dissenting opinion in this case ignores the fact that both parties stipulated that it was expressive speech.

• The tension between speech and conduct will continue to be debated in future cases due to the blurred line between them.

Implications and Future Considerations

This section discusses the potential implications of cases like Jack Phillips' and the ongoing debates surrounding rights and protections.

Tension between Speech and Conduct

• The tension between speech and conduct is an issue that will likely arise in future court cases.

• One axis of consideration is whether certain actions are expressive speech or discriminatory conduct, especially in relation to protected classes like sexual orientation and gender identity.

• Another axis involves determining whose rights these protections apply to. Cases involving individuals, closely held corporations (like Hobby Lobby), or large publicly traded corporations raise questions about religious liberty, freedom of speech, association, and discrimination.

• The Supreme Court may continue to address these issues in the coming years.

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This section discusses the conflict between personal beliefs and civil rights laws, particularly in relation to gay marriage and freedom of speech.

Personal Beliefs vs. Civil Rights Laws

• Individuals have different reasons for objecting to certain actions or events under the law.

• The example of not wanting to provide services for a gay wedding is given as an illustration.

• Free speech protections are strong, but when civil rights laws come into play, other rights may be compromised.

• LGBT rights are seen as a new category that can potentially suspend First Amendment rights.

• Colorado law is mentioned as an example where constitutional justifications may be overridden based on preferences.

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This section explores the driving factors behind the suspension of certain freedoms in favor of equality and the hierarchy of victimization.

Driving Factors Behind Suspension of Freedoms

• The relentless drive towards equality and the prioritization of victimized groups influence the suspension of certain freedoms.

• The left's influence and their preference for protecting specific classes contribute to this phenomenon.

• Goldwater's objection to the Civil Rights Act is mentioned, highlighting his concerns about excessive suspension of freedom.

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In this section, there is a discussion about how availability of similar services elsewhere can impact personal beliefs versus forced compliance with anti-discrimination laws.

Availability of Services and Personal Beliefs

• Goldwater's view suggests that exclusionary practices will lead businesses to lose customers, as others will step in to provide services.

• The case of Masterpiece Cakeshop is cited as an example where alternative options were available for customers seeking specific services.

• An animus or deliberate targeting can complicate matters when it comes to violating religious beliefs in order to fulfill requests.

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This section delves into the complexities of public accommodations and the suspension of freedom in cases where businesses collectively exclude certain customers.

Public Accommodations and Suspension of Freedom

• The Heart of Atlanta case is referenced to explain how all businesses in a given market excluding a class of customers can hinder free market mechanisms.

• Shared cultural beliefs among businesses can create a situation where competitors are not affected by exclusionary practices.

• The analogy of hotels along a highway refusing to serve Black customers is used to illustrate this point.

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This section further explores the impact of shared cultural beliefs on exclusionary practices and the limitations of free market mechanisms.

Impact of Shared Cultural Beliefs

• When all businesses within a geographic area share exclusionary beliefs, the free market mechanism fails to provide alternative options for customers.

• The example of hotels along a highway refusing service to Black customers highlights this limitation.

• It is suggested that shared cultural beliefs resemble an anti-trust situation rather than economic collusion.

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This section discusses the parallel between shared cultural beliefs and exclusionary practices in relation to technology companies and social media platforms.

Parallel with Technology Companies

• Similar dynamics can be observed in tech companies and social media platforms.

• Elon Musk's name is mentioned, but no specific details are provided in the transcript.

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This section discusses the concept of a Black Swan event and its impact on society.

Black Swan Event

• A Black Swan event is an unpredictable event with severe consequences that has a major impact on society.

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This section explores the Civil Rights Act and the power of Congress to pass public accommodations laws.

Civil Rights Act and Congressional Power

• The question arises whether Congress has the power to pass public accommodations laws under the 14th Amendment.

• The 14th Amendment gives Congress clear authority to pass laws regarding state actors and what laws states can or cannot enact.

• Heart of Atlanta case focused on the constitutional justification for forcing private businesses to comply with public accommodations laws.

• The argument revolves around where in the Constitution does Congress have the power to impinge on private businesses' rights.

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This section discusses the idea of letting free markets operate without government intervention.

Free Markets and Segregation

• There was never a period where free market principles were tested without government intervention due to Jim Crow laws followed by anti-discrimination laws.

• It is uncertain whether segregation would have persisted if free markets were allowed to operate without government interference.

• Historical evidence suggests that when groups discriminate, unless forced otherwise, people tend to chase profits, which could lead to less discrimination over time.

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This section addresses social media censorship and barriers to entry in various sectors.

Social Media Censorship and Barriers to Entry

• Social media censorship is a potential concern, but it differs from other forms of discrimination in certain industries.

• While it may be difficult to build alternatives to platforms like Google or Twitter, there are still many areas where competition exists.

• Examples include banks refusing services based on Second Amendment views and major players in sectors like cell phones potentially excluding conservative groups.

• The current laws may not adequately address the issue of cultural market share power and discrimination in certain sectors.

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This section continues the discussion on social media censorship and introduces the concept of a new competitor.

Social Media Censorship and New Competitors

• Social media censorship poses challenges that might not be easily solved by market forces alone, although new competitors like alternative platforms can emerge.

• The speaker raises a question about their personal stance on free speech and acknowledges the complexity of the issue.

The Impact of Misinformation on Twitter

In this section, the speaker discusses the issue of misinformation on Twitter and its impact on public discourse. They express concern about the spread of false information and question whether the solution is more speech or censorship.

The Problem of Misinformation

• Misinformation on Twitter is a growing concern, with individuals spreading false information for personal gain.

• The speaker worries that our discourse is becoming increasingly unintelligent due to the prevalence of made-up stories on social media platforms like Twitter.

• They question what can be done to address this problem and whether it is more dangerous than censorship.

Trusting Gatekeepers vs. Public Discourse

• The speaker acknowledges that relying solely on market forces to police truth is not sufficient, as false information can spread quickly while the truth takes time to catch up.

• They raise the question of who should have the power to control information - elite gatekeepers or the general public (demos).

• Despite acknowledging flaws in public discourse, the speaker expresses greater trust in average Americans than in elite gatekeepers who have a history of mischaracterizing facts.

Examples of Misleading Reporting

• The speaker highlights instances where reputable news outlets like The New York Times have published factually incorrect or misleading reports.

• They mention examples such as false reporting on Trump-Russia collusion and historical inaccuracies about the Soviet Union.

• These instances reinforce their belief that trusting a diverse range of voices rather than relying solely on gatekeepers may lead to better decision-making.

Evaluating Conspiracy-Minded Accounts

In this section, the speaker discusses an example of a conspiracy-minded account on Twitter and reflects on how these accounts can be both entertaining and concerning.

Example Account: Stu Peters

• The speaker mentions an account named Stu Peters, known for promoting conspiracy theories and misinformation.

• Stu Peters is associated with the belief that Michelle Obama is transgender and has made a documentary called "Diet Suddenly."

• The speaker acknowledges the entertainment value of such accounts but also recognizes the potential harm they can cause.

Evaluating Misinformation on Twitter

• The speaker reflects on the prevalence of successful yet misleading content on Twitter.

• They mention that while not all conspiracy-minded tweets are accurate, it raises questions about who should be responsible for policing social media platforms.

• The speaker argues against giving entities like the CDC complete control over information dissemination, citing their track record during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Gatekeepers vs. Independent Voices

In this section, the speaker continues to discuss the role of gatekeepers and independent voices in shaping public discourse.

Challenging Gatekeepers' Track Record

• The speaker emphasizes how gatekeepers have been repeatedly wrong during significant events like the COVID-19 pandemic.

• They question whether relying on gatekeeping entities with a history of inaccuracies is preferable to allowing independent voices like Alex Berenson to exist.

Considering Alternative Approaches

• The speaker expresses hesitation about assigning information policing solely to organizations like the CDC.

• Instead, they suggest exploring alternative approaches that involve a diverse range of voices and perspectives.

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In this section, the speaker discusses the investment in production value and optics in a podcast. They mention being impressed by the professional setup and studio of a podcast they were invited to.

Investment in Production Value

• The speaker attended a podcast where the host had invested in making it visually appealing and professional.

• The podcast had a dedicated studio and multiple staff members.

• This investment was made before the host announced his podcast, showing his commitment to creating a high-quality show.

• The podcast is now available on YouTube and has a great visual presentation.

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In this section, the speaker talks about their experience being flown out to Columbus to be on a podcast. They discuss how investing in production value can enhance the presentation of ideas.

Enhancing Presentation with Optics

• The speaker flew out to Columbus to be on a podcast hosted by someone who prioritized production value.

• The host had created an impressive setup with professional equipment and studio space.

• This investment in aesthetics helps present ideas effectively and attract viewers.

• While some may perceive it as corporate or packaged, there is nothing inherently wrong with trying to present ideas well.

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In this section, the speaker explores different perspectives on polished presentations. They discuss how some may view it as authentic while others may find it inauthentic or suspicious.

Perspectives on Polished Presentations

• Polished presentations can be perceived differently by individuals.

• Some people appreciate the professionalism and find it trustworthy.

• Others may view it as manufactured or lacking authenticity.

• There seems to be a generational divide regarding preferences for polished versus casual presentations.

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In this section, the speaker discusses the importance of investing in a professional setup to be taken seriously by older audiences. They also mention the rise of influencer culture and personal relationships with content creators.

Importance of Professional Setup

• Some content creators invest in a professional setup to be taken seriously by older audiences.

• Older viewers may associate professionalism with credibility and trustworthiness.

• Influencer culture has emerged as an alternative to traditional institutions, allowing for personal connections between creators and viewers.

• Personal trust is built over time through consistent content and accountability.

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In this section, the speaker reflects on how mistrust in institutions can influence preferences for polished or unscripted presentations. They discuss how being unscripted can help build trust with certain audiences.

Mistrust in Institutions

• Mistrust in institutions can shape preferences for polished or unscripted presentations.

• Some people view slickness and preparedness as signs of potential deception or fakeness.

• Unscripted presentations, like those of Donald Trump, can appeal to those who mistrust institutions.

• Building personal relationships with viewers can help overcome institutional mistrust.

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In this section, the speaker compares different approaches to presentation styles. They mention examples like Crystal and Sagar's professional setup and Joe Rogan's authentic garage studio.

Different Approaches to Presentation Styles

• Crystal and Sagar invest in a professional setup to be taken seriously by a wider audience.

• Their goal is to attract viewers who are used to more traditional news formats.

• Joe Rogan's success demonstrates that authenticity can also resonate with audiences.

• A casual presentation style can still be effective while maintaining authenticity.

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