Patanjali's Yogasutra | Dr. Kausthub Desikachar | YS I.29 | 07 November 2015
Introduction and Greeting
The speaker greets the audience and introduces the topic of discussion.
Speaker's Greeting
- The speaker greets the audience with "yes tattva madam Prabhavati jagat aha Anika ha ha Graha prasena claireaussi."
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Mention of Anika's Betrayal
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Mention of Betrayal
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Discussion on Yoga and Spiritual Practices
The speaker discusses various aspects related to yoga and spiritual practices.
Yoga and Spiritual Practices
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- These terms may refer to specific practices or concepts within yoga and spirituality.
Reference to Patanjali Sutra
The speaker references Patanjali Yoga Sutra, specifically mentioning Patanjali and Srimati Nagaraja.
Reference to Patanjali Sutra
- The speaker mentions "Whitham prana mami Patanjali Srimati an entire Nagaraja namaha Bartonella Maharaja."
- Patanjali Yoga Sutra and Srimati Nagaraja are mentioned, indicating a discussion related to these texts.
Mention of Charaka Preity
The speaker mentions Charaka Preity and some other terms.
Mention of Charaka Preity
- The speaker says "Charaka Preity some screech a mono vaca dushana Hartree ahi pata Yamaha."
- It is unclear who or what Charaka Preity refers to, but it seems to be an important term in the context being discussed.
Introduction to Ishwara Pranidhana
The speaker introduces the concept of Ishwara Pranidhana as a tool of yoga and discusses its relationship with the divine.
Introduction to Ishwara Pranidhana
- The speaker mentions that they are in the first chapter of Patanjali Yoga Sutra, discussing Ishwara Pranidhana.
- Ishwara Pranidhana is described as having a relationship with the divine.
Method of Mantra Japa for Divine Connection
The speaker explains Patanjali's method of using mantras for connecting with the divine.
Method of Mantra Japa for Divine Connection
- Patanjali's method involves using mantras and reciting them with understanding and feeling.
- Mantras are not meant to be mindlessly repeated but recited with intention.
Importance and Benefits of Relationship with God
The speaker discusses the importance and benefits of having a relationship with God.
Importance and Benefits of Relationship with God
- A saying in India is mentioned: "pre oh gentle a piano Trisha would hope in a proper today if you are not giving any benefits even a fool will not move forward."
- The speaker raises the question of the benefits of having a relationship with God and self-realization.
Two Benefits of Mantra Japa
The speaker explains the two extraordinary benefits presented by Patanjali for mantra japa.
Two Benefits of Mantra Japa
- Patanjali presents two benefits: realization of oneself (protect Chitina adiga maha) and understanding consciousness (antara yaha Ahava ha ha).
- These benefits are described as extraordinary.
Realization of Self and Consciousness
The speaker elaborates on the realization of self and consciousness as presented by Patanjali.
Realization of Self and Consciousness
- "Protect chetana" refers to the consciousness within us, while "purusa" represents the observer or consciousness beyond matter.
- Patanjali states that having a relationship with God leads to self-realization.
Relationship with God Leads to Self-Realization
The speaker emphasizes that having a relationship with God leads to self-realization.
Relationship with God Leads to Self-Realization
- Yoga is presented as universal, not limited to any specific religion.
- Having a relationship with the divine helps in understanding oneself and realizing one's true nature.
Long-Term Practice for Mantra Japa
The speaker explains that mantra japa requires long-term practice following specific procedures.
Long-Term Practice for Mantra Japa
- Mantra japa should be practiced according to classical procedures (sampradaya) and visualization (Puranas ajita).
- The speaker emphasizes the importance of practicing consistently over a long period until achieving mantra CD (success in mantras).
Mantra Initiation and Long-Term Practice
The speaker discusses the process of mantra initiation and the need for long-term practice.
Mantra Initiation and Long-Term Practice
- When initiated to a mantra by a teacher, it is called mantra upadesha.
- Daily practice over months or years leads to mantra CD (success in mantras).
Self-Realization Requires Time and Effort
The speaker highlights that self-realization is not an instant process but requires time and effort.
Self-Realization Requires Time and Effort
- Self-realization is not quick like sending an email or SMS; it takes longer in the spiritual dimension.
- Patanjali's teachings require consistent practice over time for self-realization to occur.
Importance of Consistent Practice
The importance of consistent practice is emphasized by Acharya Krishnamacharya. If one stops practicing for a few days after starting, the progress made is lost and one has to start from scratch.
Consistency in Practice
- Acharya Krishnamacharya emphasizes the need for daily practice without interruptions.
- If practice is stopped for a few days, the progress made is nullified and one has to start over.
- The word "nyira antaria" signifies starting from scratch after a break in practice.
Self-realization through Mantra Practice
Self-realization can be achieved through mantra practice. The word "adhigam" means realizing oneself. Self-realization cannot be understood intellectually or by the mind; it happens when the self realizes itself.
Self-realization through Mantra Practice
- Self-realization is achieved when one practices mantras consistently.
- The self cannot be understood intellectually or by the mind; it realizes itself.
- The analogy of a child or animal looking at its reflection in a mirror is used to explain self-realization.
Purification of Mind and Self-realization
The mind becomes more clean through various aspects of yoga practice, such as mantra repetition. When the mind becomes like a clean mirror, it reflects the projection of the self, leading to self-realization.
Purification of Mind and Self-realization
- Through practices like mantra repetition, toxins in the body and mind are removed, making the mind cleaner.
- As the mind becomes cleaner, it reflects the projection of the self like a mirror.
- Self-realization occurs when the self stands in front of this clean mirror-like mind.
Waiting for Self-revelation
Self-realization cannot be grasped or chased after. It is a moment of revelation that occurs when the mind is quiet and silent. Waiting for self-revelation is compared to waiting for butterflies to come near when one is still and surrounded by flowers.
Waiting for Self-revelation
- Chasing after self-realization or consciousness only pushes it further away.
- The more one becomes addicted to understanding the concept of the Purusha, the further they are from spirituality.
- Self-revelation happens when the mind is quiet and silent, similar to how butterflies approach when one waits silently amidst flowers.
Mantra as a Process of Purification
Mantras serve as a process of purifying the body, mind, and human structure. Through this purification, the mind becomes capable of reflecting the projection of the self, leading to self-realization.
Mantra as a Process of Purification
- Mantras help in removing toxins from the body and mind, purifying them.
- The goal is to make the mind clean like a mirror that can reflect the projection of the self.
- Self-realization occurs when the purified mind reflects the true nature of oneself.
Limitations in Grasping Consciousness
Consciousness cannot be grasped or understood through intellectual efforts. One must wait for consciousness to reveal itself. The analogy of trying to photograph a butterfly while chasing it is used to explain this concept.
Limitations in Grasping Consciousness
- Consciousness cannot be measured or understood through intellectual efforts alone.
- Trying to chase consciousness only pushes it further away.
- Waiting silently and patiently allows consciousness to reveal itself, similar to how butterflies may come near when one remains still amidst flowers.
Self-realization vs God Realization
Patanjali emphasizes self-realization through mantra practice rather than God realization. One reason for this could be the influence of Sankhya philosophy, which focuses on knowing the Purusha. Additionally, the concept of God is considered immeasurable and cannot be grasped by finite beings.
Self-realization vs God Realization
- Patanjali's emphasis on self-realization through mantra practice may be influenced by Sankhya philosophy.
- Sankhya philosophy prioritizes understanding the Purusha over realizing God.
- The concept of God is considered immeasurable and cannot be fully grasped by finite beings.
- Instead of God realization, one can have a godlike realization or a realization of the self.
Speculation on Vedanta Philosophy
There are different interpretations for why Patanjali emphasizes self-realization through mantra practice instead of God realization. One speculation is that Vedanta philosophy came after Patanjali's Yoga Sutras, and Patanjali follows Sankhya philosophy, which focuses on knowing the Purusha.
Speculation on Vedanta Philosophy
- One possible reason for emphasizing self-realization over God realization is that Vedanta philosophy came after Patanjali's Yoga Sutras.
- Patanjali relies heavily on Sankhya philosophy, which emphasizes understanding the Purusha.
- In Sankhya philosophy, clear understanding and experience of the Purusha are crucial.
- This could explain why Patanjali presents self-realization through mantra practice rather than direct God realization.
Limitations in Grasping the Divine
The mind and body are limited containers that can grasp and understand the individual self (jivatma), but they cannot comprehend or hold the divine (God). The divine is infinite and immeasurable, while our minds are finite.
Limitations in Grasping the Divine
- The mind and body can understand and grasp the individual self (jivatma), but they cannot comprehend or hold the divine.
- The divine is infinite and immeasurable, while our minds are finite containers.
- We can have a godlike realization, but not a complete God realization due to the limitations of our finite nature.
Distinction between God Realization and Godlike Realization
There is a distinction between God realization and godlike realization. While we cannot fully realize or comprehend God's infinite nature, we can have a realization of our own self at the highest level.
Distinction between God Realization and Godlike Realization
- We cannot fully realize or comprehend the infinite nature of God.
- Instead, we can have a godlike realization, understanding aspects of divinity within ourselves.
- At the highest level, we can have a realization of our own self (purusa sakshat Karim).
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Understanding Qualified Non-Dualism and Self-Realization
In this section, the speaker discusses the concept of qualified non-dualism and self-realization. They explore the idea that while we are in a human body, we are separate from the divine. However, at the moment of death, there is a merging back into the divine where there is no separation. The speaker also highlights the debate between Patanjali's perspective on self-realization versus God realization.
Qualified Non-Dualism and Self-Realization
- According to qualified non-dualism (visishta advaitha darshan), when the jivatma (individual soul) separates from the body, it can have an experience of the divine and become one with it.
- While in a human body, we are separate from the divine because our limited container cannot hold infinite source. However, at death, there is no separation between us and the divine.
- This concept of qualified non-dualism explains why some believe that true God realization is not possible while in a human form. Patanjali presents self-realization as attainable instead.
- There is controversy surrounding this topic as some Vedic schools argue that chanting mantras can lead to communion or union with God. However, Patanjali emphasizes that mantra practice leads to self-realization rather than God realization.
- Patanjali's perspective suggests that realizing oneself is extraordinary and sufficient according to Samkhya and Yoga schools. Self-realization leads to freedom and enlightenment.
Benefits of Mantra Japa: Self-Realization and Overcoming Obstacles
In this section, the speaker discusses the benefits of mantra japa (chanting) and how it leads to self-realization and overcoming obstacles. They explain that obstacles are not external but rather a result of our attitude and mindset.
Self-Realization through Mantra Japa
- The first benefit of mantra japa is the realization of oneself. This is considered extraordinary as it aligns with the teachings of Samkhya and Yoga schools.
- Through mantra practice, obstacles in life start disappearing. Obstacles are no longer manifesting, leading to freedom from them.
Overcoming Obstacles
- According to Yoga philosophy, obstacles are not external entities but rather a reflection of our attitude and mindset.
- The source of obstacles lies within us, such as laziness or negative attitudes. By finding alternative paths and changing our mindset, we can overcome obstacles.
- Obstacles should be evaluated to understand their source. It is important to recognize that obstacles are not external circumstances but rather internal factors that hinder progress.
- The word "obstacle" itself implies something that stops or cuts off the journey. However, like a river finding another way around an obstacle, we must keep flowing and pushing forward despite challenges.
- Self-realization plays a crucial role in overcoming obstacles as actions driven by the self transcend limitations imposed by the mind, senses, and body.
Disease as an Obstacle: Examples from Great Personalities
In this section, the speaker explores how disease can be perceived as an obstacle and shares examples of great personalities who overcame illness to continue their missions.
Disease as an Obstacle
- Disease is often considered an obstacle as it can limit one's ability to perform certain tasks or jobs.
- However, many great personalities have shown that despite being sick, they continued their missions and helped others.
- Examples include Mother Teresa, who faced numerous heart problems but remained dedicated to helping people, and Ramana Maharshi, who had cancer but continued his spiritual teachings and service.
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In this section, the speaker discusses how our actions are driven by the self and not external factors. They highlight the importance of actions coming from a deep place within us and how obstacles can manifest when our actions are driven by external influences.
Actions Driven by Self vs. External Factors
- When our actions are driven by the self, which comes from a deep place within us, nothing will stop us.
- However, when our actions are driven by external factors or the material side of the body, obstacles start manifesting even if they are not actually present.
- Many people show enthusiasm initially but then stop pursuing their goals due to various obstacles they create or encounter.
- Obstacles can include difficulties in finding transportation or accommodation, complex travel routes, or lack of information about schedules.
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In this section, the speaker emphasizes that in the pursuit of knowledge and spiritual growth, it is important to overcome obstacles rather than giving up easily. They provide examples of individuals who overcame significant challenges to pursue their studies and highlight how modern-day obstacles often stem from a lack of willingness to try hard.
Overcoming Obstacles in Pursuit of Knowledge
- The speaker mentions examples such as their own grandfather and other seekers who had to undertake arduous journeys on foot or with limited transportation options to study under teachers.
- These individuals faced uncertainties regarding teacher availability, acceptance as students, curriculum details, duration of training, and costs.
- In contrast to earlier times when seekers were willing to endure hardships for knowledge, modern-day obstacles often arise from trivial reasons like not receiving an email with a timetable or concerns about accommodation quality.
- The speaker highlights that we tend to create excuses and obstacles because our minds are not willing to put in effort and overcome challenges.
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In this section, the speaker discusses how self-realization and actions driven by a deeper place within us can transform obstacles into opportunities. They contrast the mindset of individuals who possess willpower derived from self-realization with those who exhibit stubbornness due to a lack of knowledge.
Willpower vs. Stubbornness
- When actions come from a deeper place within us, obstacles no longer seem like hindrances but rather opportunities.
- The speaker shares an anecdote about a wise monk advising them to climb over walls instead of building more walls metaphorically.
- Willpower, derived from self-realization or consciousness, helps individuals walk through obstacles effortlessly.
- Stubbornness, on the other hand, arises from a lack of knowledge and leads to repeatedly banging one's head against the wall without making progress.
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In this section, the speaker emphasizes that self-made obstacles often hinder our spiritual journey. They highlight common excuses people make when faced with the need for introspection and self-reflection.
Self-Made Obstacles in Spiritual Journey
- People tend to create various excuses when it comes to facing themselves and going through the process of spiritual transformation.
- Common excuses include blaming teachers for being abusive or causing suffering, considering distance as an obstacle, lacking proficiency in Sanskrit language, feeling inflexible physically, or having other responsibilities like preparing breakfast for family members.
- These self-made obstacles prevent individuals from delving deep within themselves and hinder their spiritual growth.
New Section
In this section, the speaker highlights that true self-realization requires facing oneself honestly without fear. They discuss how introspection may reveal imperfections and challenges but is essential for spiritual transformation.
Facing Oneself in Spiritual Transformation
- Self-realization involves looking at oneself honestly in the mirror, acknowledging both strengths and weaknesses.
- The mirror metaphorically reflects who we truly are, including any flaws or scars on our physical and emotional selves.
- The speaker questions whether individuals are willing to see their true selves without fear.
- Many people fear what the spiritual process may reveal about themselves, leading them to create obstacles and excuses.
New Section
In this section, the speaker emphasizes that self-made obstacles often arise from fear and resistance to introspection. They highlight common excuses people make when faced with the need for self-reflection.
Fear and Resistance in Spiritual Transformation
- People often create obstacles due to fear of what the spiritual process may reveal about themselves.
- Common excuses include considering teachers as not good enough or abusive, feeling that the process is too far or unfamiliar (e.g., not speaking Sanskrit well), believing one's body is not flexible enough, or having other responsibilities.
- These excuses prevent individuals from embracing introspection and hinder their spiritual journey.