Jordan Uncovered: The Journey of Sobriety | The Hopeaholics Podcast #41

Introduction

In this section, the speaker introduces themselves and shares a traumatic event that led to their first rehab experience.

Speaker's Background

• The speaker was sent to their first rehab at 15 years old by their father.

Traumatic Event

• The speaker experienced a traumatic event where someone they were dating died after being hit by a car while skateboarding home drunk.

Sharing Personal Information

In this section, the speakers discuss sharing personal information on social media platforms.

Sharing on Social Media

• The speakers discuss sharing personal information on social media platforms like TikTok to gain more followers and subscribers.

• They plan to create short reels for TikTok.

General Chit Chat

In this section, the speakers engage in general chit chat about various topics.

Lineup of Guests

• The speakers talk about the lineup of guests for their podcast that hasn't been released yet.

Cold Plunge Invitation

• One of the speakers invites another to do a cold plunge with them in Costa Mesa at 5 am but is declined due to distance and time constraints.

• They discuss other locations where cold plunges are available such as Dana Point.

Midnight Ocean Swim

In this section, the speakers talk about one of them going for an ocean swim at midnight.

Midnight Swim

• One of the speakers talks about how their boyfriend goes for a swim in the ocean at midnight.

• The other speaker is not interested in going for a swim at that time.

Podcast Introduction

In this section, the speakers introduce their podcast.

No Intro

• The speakers talk about how they don't have an intro for their podcast yet.

Guest Introduction

• They introduce their guest Jordan.

Conclusion

This section concludes the transcript.

Lack of Intro

• The speakers discuss how they usually don't have an intro for their podcasts and rely on other podcasts' intros.

Introduction

In this section, the speaker introduces themselves and talks about their experience with being on camera.

• The speaker is from Portland, Oregon.

• They are used to sitting on a different side of the camera and find it weird to be on the other side.

• The speaker jokes about only having one good side for the camera.

Early Life and Drinking

In this section, the speaker talks about their early life growing up in Orange County and how they started drinking at a young age.

• The speaker grew up in Yorba Linda, Orange County.

• They were raised in a Christian home but their parents drank every day.

• At 14 years old, the speaker took 14 shots of 99 Bananas by themselves because they wanted to feel something.

• Drinking gave them confidence and they started drinking every day, even taking vodka to school in a water bottle.

• The speaker's parents became concerned when they found out that the speaker was putting water in their alcohol bottles and stealing alcohol from stores.

Family Dynamics

In this section, the speaker talks about their family dynamics growing up and how alcohol affected everyone differently.

• The speaker has an older sister and a younger brother. They are the middle child.

• Their dad was a pothead who loved to drink but was functioning. He never talked about what happened when he was drunk or faced any consequences for his actions.

• Their mom was an emotional drinker but stopped drinking after seeing what it did to the speaker.

• Everyone hid their own alcohol from each other, including the speaker who would steal alcohol from stores and hide it in their closet.

• The family dynamic was dysfunctional due to tension between the parents who slept in separate rooms and drank heavily.

Reflection

In this section, the speaker reflects on their past experiences with alcohol and how it affected their family.

• The speaker's younger brother saw what alcohol did to their family and went the opposite way, avoiding drinking too much.

• The speaker feels guilty for what they put their family through and is glad that their brother didn't have to go through the same thing.

• Alcohol had different effects on each member of the speaker's family.

Skateboarding Home

In this section, the speaker talks about a friend who died after skateboarding home. She also discusses how this event led to her drinking getting worse and eventually going to rehab.

Friend's Death

• The speaker had a friend who wanted to skateboard home despite being offered a ride.

• The friend later died after being hit by a car while skateboarding.

• The speaker felt guilty for a long time after the incident.

Drinking and Rehab

• The guilt from her friend's death caused the speaker's drinking to get worse.

• She went to several different rehabs between the ages of 21 and 23.

• After begging for consequences, she got a DUI which was what she needed to realize that she didn't want to live like that anymore.

Surrendering to Treatment

In this section, the speaker talks about finally surrendering herself to treatment after realizing that she didn't want to keep living in chaos.

Surrendering

• After experiencing withdrawal symptoms and seeing how fed up her family was with her behavior, the speaker realized that she needed help.

• She called treatment and took the first place that would take her in soonest.

• Despite doing everything they told her to do, including getting a sponsor and doing steps, she wasn't quite ready to give up chaos yet.

Going to Treatment and Drinking Alone

In this section, the speaker talks about her experience going to treatment and drinking alone. She mentions that she went to an all-women's program for six months, which was a new experience for her. She also discusses how she would always run home if she had a bad roommate or felt uncomfortable in treatment. The speaker then talks about her drinking habits, mentioning that she only drank alone because of the way she would drink.

Going to Treatment

• The speaker went to Sunset with Stephanie and stayed there for six months.

• She went to an all-women's program for the first time and stayed there longer than any other treatment center.

• The speaker would always run home if she had a bad roommate or felt uncomfortable in treatment.

Drinking Habits

• The speaker only drank alone because of the way she would drink.

• Her body couldn't process detox, so she would black out easily.

• She drank four or five bottles of wine when drinking alone.

• The speaker was a daily drinker and wouldn't be able to stop unless someone held her down or if she went to treatment.

Types of Alcohol and Blackouts

In this section, the speaker talks about the types of alcohol she used to drink and how they affected her. She mentions that wine was her favorite but that it caused stomach issues. The speaker also talks about 151 being the only alcohol that ever put her into a blackout.

Types of Alcohol

• Wine was the speaker's favorite, but it caused stomach issues.

• The speaker's preferred wine had at least 13.5% alcohol content.

• 151 was the only alcohol that ever put the speaker into a blackout.

Blackouts

• The speaker would black out easily and wouldn't be able to tell when it was coming.

• She would pass out and sometimes pee herself during a blackout.

• The speaker ended up in the hospital with a .4 or .37 BAC after drinking 151.

Struggling with Addiction

In this section, the speaker talks about their experience with addiction and how they were able to hide it for a long time.

Hiding Addiction in High School

• The speaker was naive about alcohol and addiction.

• They were able to hide their meth use every day from ninth grade until they stopped at 22 years old.

Spiraling Out of Control

In this section, the speaker talks about how their life spiraled out of control after high school due to addiction.

Functioning but Not Really

• The speaker's family found out about their addiction when they were 18.

• Their life spiraled out of control for the next five years.

• They spent three years in county jail and were in and out during that time.

Fear of Prison

• The speaker never wanted to go to prison because it scared them.

• They don't really understand the difference between county jail and state prison, but think that state prison works more long term.

County Jail vs State Prison

In this section, the speaker discusses the differences between county jail and state prison based on what they have heard from others.

Time Served

• Anything over a year typically results in going to state prison.

• Anything less than a year means staying local (e.g. Orange County).

Environment

• People who have been to prison say it's easier because you're not just stuck in a dorm all day with like 50 other people or stuck in a two-man cell with a roommate.

• Time goes by faster, but it is more violent than county jail.

Canadian Jail?

In this section, the speakers discuss Canadian jails and their experiences with jail time.

Canadian Jails

• The speaker's friend is Canadian and has been to jail in Canada.

• They joke about how everyone is nice in Canada, even the police who ride horses.

• The speaker did jumping jacks naked in the window to be funny with the guards during their own jail time.

Embarrassment and Support

• The speaker was embarrassed that their little brother had to see them getting arrested.

• Their brother has always been supportive no matter what.

• The brother has drank before but never taken it too far.

Smoking Weed

In this section, the speakers discuss smoking weed and their experiences with it.

Smoking Weed

• The speaker's dad smokes pot all day every day.

• The dad has tried to get the speaker to smoke weed while they've been sober for 18 months.

• The speaker doesn't like smoking weed because it makes them paranoid.

Normie Life

• One of the speakers' friends used to smoke crack but stopped after going to rehab and hasn't done anything for five years.

• They talk about "normies" who can drink or do drugs without taking it too far.

The Importance of Sobriety

In this section, the speakers discuss the importance of sobriety and how it can lead to personal growth and success.

Sobriety as a Mindset

• Sobriety is more than just being clean and sober; it's a mindset that involves striving to do better and become better.

• Being comfortable in life doesn't lead to growth, so it's important to put obstacles in your way to get bigger and better every day.

• The speaker believes that sobriety has allowed her to pursue new opportunities, such as participating in podcasts like this one.

Treatment Centers

• While treatment centers may offer different amenities or activities, what really makes a difference is the staff.

• The speaker recalls that the treatment centers that helped her the most were those where someone was brutally honest with her about her behavior.

Taryn's Role at the Treatment Center

In this section, Taryn talks about her role at the treatment center and how she enjoys working in admissions.

Taryn's Role

• Taryn works mainly in admissions and enjoys being the first one to hear people's stories.

• She likes meeting people in person and making them feel comfortable.

• She thinks it makes a difference when people know who they will be talking to on the phone or meeting in person.

• Sometimes, she does admissions for other treatment centers like Pillars and Ken Sealy.

Introduction Videos

• Taryn suggests creating introduction videos of the admissions team and clinical team to put on the website so that clients can get to know them before coming in.

• This way, clients can recognize staff members when they come into the center.

Social Awkwardness

In this section, Chad and Taryn discuss their social awkwardness and how it affects their interactions with others.

Being Shy

• Chad admits to being socially awkward and shy.

• He shares that he worries about what people think of him but has learned to embrace his shyness.

• Chad encourages listeners to say hi if they see him in the hallway even if it makes him feel awkward.

Coping Mechanisms

• Both Chad and Taryn share coping mechanisms for dealing with nervousness such as carrying tissues or toilet paper to prevent sweaty palms or heads.

• They both agree that it's okay to be shy and introverted and still be successful and happy.

Staying Positive and Changing Perspective

In this section, the speakers discuss how to stay positive and change one's perspective.

Comparing Yourself to Others

• The speaker compares herself to her boyfriend who is six years sober and very disciplined.

• She acknowledges that comparing oneself to others is not helpful.

Staying Positive

• The speaker tries to stay positive by focusing on her perspective and mindset.

• She attends meetings a few times a week and does yoga for physical exercise.

• The speakers emphasize that changing one's perspective takes a lot of work but it is essential in treatment.

Making the Best of a Situation

• The speakers discuss how one can make the best or worst of any situation based on their perspective.

• They encourage people in treatment to make it the best 30 days of their life rather than the worst.

Discipline and Routine

In this section, the speakers talk about discipline, routine, and motivation.

Establishing Routine

• The speaker struggles with establishing a routine but acknowledges its importance.

• Her boyfriend is very disciplined with his routine which includes running five miles every other morning and going to the gym on alternate days.

Mental Aspect of Exercise

• The speaker recognizes that physical exercise is important for mental health but finds it hard to motivate herself.

• She talks herself out of going to the gym even though she wakes up early enough.

Importance of Discipline

• The speakers emphasize the importance of discipline in achieving goals.

• They acknowledge that discipline takes effort but it pays off in the long run.

Morning Routine

In this section, the speaker talks about his morning routine and shares some of his habits.

Jesus Calling and Prayers

• The speaker reads "Jesus Calling" every morning.

• He screenshots it and sends it to his wife and daughter.

• He then prays.

Gym Workout

• The speaker works out for an hour and 40 minutes at the gym.

• He does weights and cardio.

• He mentions that he gets bored easily at the gym.

Energy Drinks

• The speaker drinks Celsius instead of coffee because coffee hurts his stomach.

• He also mentions trying a pre-workout drink called Frankenstein, which has caffeine in it.

• The speaker enjoys feeling tingly after drinking energy drinks.

Stanley Cup Mug

In this section, the speaker talks about a funny incident involving a Stanley Cup mug with a naked black guy on it.

Nikki's Stanley Cup Mug

• The speaker was talking to Nikki about her Stanley Cup mug with a straw that fits in your car.

• When he searched for images of the Stanley Cup online, a different mug with a naked black guy on it showed up on camera.

• They were all surprised by what they saw and found it funny.

Drinking Celsius Energy Drink

In this section, the speakers talk about drinking Celsius energy drink during their conversation.

Trying Celsius for the First Time

• One of the speakers tries Celsius energy drink for the first time during their conversation.

• They discuss how it doesn't taste too sugary and has zero grams of sugar per serving.

Caffeine Content

• They discuss how each can contains 200 milligrams of caffeine which is equivalent to four cups of coffee.

• One person mentions adding two shots of espresso to their energy drink for an extra boost.

Frankenstein Pre-Workout Drink

• One speaker mentions trying a pre-workout drink called Frankenstein, which has caffeine in it.

• They discuss how it makes them feel tingly and energized.

Podcasting and Social Media

In this section, the speakers discuss their podcasting schedule and social media presence.

Podcasting Schedule

• The speakers aim to record three podcasts a week.

• They usually record on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Friday.

• The speakers ask for feedback on what type of content people want to watch.

Social Media Presence

• One speaker has 60k followers on TikTok but doesn't get much attention anymore.

• Most of the speaker's TikTok followers are older men who comment inappropriately.

• The other speaker runs their TikTok account but admits they suck at it.

• They both agree that TikTok is more suitable for people under 25 years old.

The Movement Against Fentanyl

In this section, the speakers talk about their movement against fentanyl and its impact on young people.

Fentanyl Epidemic

• Fentanyl is the number one cause of death in the United States among people aged 16 to 28 years old.

• People have become desensitized to hearing about deaths caused by fentanyl.

Coping with Loss

In this section, the speakers discuss their experiences coping with the loss of loved ones and how they dealt with feelings of guilt and grief.

Dealing with Guilt

• The speaker shares her experience of feeling guilty after losing her boyfriend in a car accident. She felt responsible for his death because he snuck out to see her while grounded.

• She struggled to cope with the guilt and believed that she deserved to switch places with him.

• Therapy helped her work through her emotions, but time was the most significant factor in healing.

Coping Mechanisms

• The speaker learned to shut off her emotions about the loss when others became tired of hearing about it.

• After returning to treatment, she opened up about her feelings again and found peace knowing that he was in a good place.

• The other speaker agrees that happiness is difficult to find, especially when dealing with grief. He believes that casual drug use can be life or death nowadays.

Acceptance

• The speakers agree that there is nothing they could have done differently to prevent their loved ones' deaths. They believe that God takes people when it's their time and that something good can come from tragedy.

• They hope to use their platform as a podcast to unite families who have experienced similar losses and provide support.

The Importance of Unity

In this section, the speaker emphasizes the importance of unity and coming together as a community. He acknowledges that it can be difficult to avoid getting political but believes that this is a bipartisan issue.

Unity is Strength

• The speaker stresses the importance of coming together as a community.

• He believes that divided we are weak and that we need to start seeing the real truth instead of lies spread by both sides.

• The speaker admits that his side spreads lies and mistruths, but he thinks this is a bipartisan issue.

• He loves everyone regardless of their beliefs, skin color or sexual orientation.

Healing Hurting People

In this section, the speaker clarifies his statement about loving hurting people. He explains that he loves people who have been through tough times and want to get better.

Loving Hurting People

• The speaker clarifies his statement about loving hurting people. He explains that he loves people who have been through tough times and want to get better.

• He emphasizes that he wants to heal hurt people rather than hurt them further.

Recovery Community

In this section, the speaker talks about how being sober has changed his perspective on life. He finds it hard to relate with people who haven't gone through similar experiences.

Recovery Community

• The speaker talks about how being sober has changed his perspective on life.

• It's hard for him to relate with people who haven't gone through similar experiences.

• He believes that the recovery community is growing and will take over the world.

The Importance of Pain

In this section, the speaker talks about how going through tough times has made him a better person. He believes that pain is necessary for growth.

Pain is Necessary for Growth

• The speaker talks about how going through tough times has made him a better person.

• He believes that pain is necessary for growth and that he wouldn't be as empathetic if he hadn't gone through tough times.

• The speaker acknowledges that there are exceptions to this rule, such as pro football players who work hard to achieve their dreams.

Life in Recovery

In this section, the speakers discuss their experiences with recovery and how it has impacted their lives. They also talk about the importance of discipline and mindset in achieving success in recovery.

Life in Recovery

• The speakers discuss how people who come from wealthy families often don't end up living in difficult circumstances.

• They talk about fashion trends, including baggy pants for girls and Dickies for boys.

• The speakers mention their children's interests and hobbies, including playing basketball.

• They discuss a men's basketball league that they participate in on Sunday nights.

• One speaker talks about how being an addict taught him to have a disciplined mindset to achieve his goals.

• They talk about changes they've made since getting clean, including not drinking alcohol.

Overcoming Addiction

• One speaker asks the other what changed for him during his last run of addiction.

• The speaker explains that he realized he was hurting others and needed to change for himself rather than trying to do it for someone else.

Overcoming Addiction and Making Amends

In this section, Chad discusses his journey of overcoming addiction and making amends with those he hurt.

Journey to Recovery

• Chad realized that every time he hurt someone, he also hurt himself.

• He worked through a lot of issues from his childhood and addiction.

• His addiction lasted from 13 to 23 years old and then again from 35 to 42 years old.

• The Orange County Sheriff's Department rescued him after a wild goose chase.

Making Amends

• Chad made amends with the Orange County Sheriff's Department by apologizing for what he put them through.

• He acknowledged that many people don't realize how difficult it is to be a police officer and thanked them for doing their job.

• Chad shared a story about accidentally killing a cat but clarified that it was not the right forum to share more stories.

Reflection

• No additional information provided in this section.

The Story of the Cat

In this section, the speaker tells a story about a cat and how it ended up in the garbage.

The Cat Incident

• The speaker talks about how there were certain people he didn't want to piss off, and one day he found a dead cat on his floor.

• He tried to put the cat's neck back together but it was unresponsive. He then slid the cat 20 feet down the hallway and asked his friend to dispose of it.

• After an hour, he asked his friend if he was sure that the cat was dead. He made him go downstairs to confirm its death but never came back.

• The speaker concludes by saying that crack is bad and advises against doing it.

Forgiving Yourself

In this section, the speaker talks about self-love and forgiving oneself as important steps towards recovery.

Forgiving Yourself

• The speaker shares that identifying with who they were in their addiction was a big problem for them. They had to separate themselves from their past self and focus on who they wanted to be.

• They talk about how addicts are often hard on themselves and don't talk enough about self-love. Forgiving oneself for past mistakes is crucial for moving forward.

• The speaker emphasizes that focusing on who they want to be rather than who they were has been a game-changer for them. It has helped them forgive themselves for their past actions and become a better person.

• They conclude by saying that everyone should learn to forgive themselves and focus on becoming the best version of themselves. It takes work, but it's worth it.

Filling Your Mind with Positivity

In this section, the speaker talks about how they fill their mind with positivity to stay motivated and focused.

Filling Your Mind with Positivity

• The speaker shares that they listen to audiobooks on leadership, business, motivation, and self-discipline instead of gangster rap.

• They talk about how they watch motivational speakers at the gym instead of listening to music. This has helped them change their mindset and become more disciplined.

• The speaker emphasizes that filling your mind with positivity is crucial for success. They conclude by saying that they are determined to succeed and won't stop until they do.

• The section ends with a humorous moment where the speaker struggles to pronounce "pillow" correctly.

Grinding for 22 Years

In this section, the speaker talks about their past experiences with addiction and how they want to continue grinding for the next five years.

Addiction and Grinding

• The speaker has been grinding for 22 years, even though they had stints of relapse.

• The speaker worked hard during meth-induced psychosis in Europe for 14 days straight.

• The speaker could become a digital person and jump into an iPhone.

• The illness is deep, and the speaker is unmedicated now, so anything could happen.

Stories from the Past

In this section, the speaker shares some wild stories from their past experiences.

Wild Stories

• The speaker's friend never came back after being given free dope.

• The speaker almost walked into something heavy while talking to someone on the phone.

• The speaker cut their chest with a knife once.

• Some guys were beating another guy with a baseball bat. It's unclear who won.

Seeking Help

In this section, the speaker emphasizes that there is no such thing as recreational drug use and encourages people to seek help if needed.

Seeking Help

• There is no such thing as recreational drug use anymore; if you need help, please contact Hope at 1-866-930-BUDDY or visit @hopefortyseven on Instagram.

• The phone number for Hope is spelled out as 4673 on the telephone.

Wrapping Up

In this section, the speaker talks about leaving California and their plans for the future.

Leaving California

• The speaker wants to leave California in five years and move to Tennessee.

• The speaker wants to have a big ranch with horse stables and an arena.

• The speaker wants to get a treatment center in Texas and Tennessee.

Working at Hidden Trail

In this section, the speakers discuss their experiences working at Hidden Trail.

Shifts and Pay

• The speakers discuss their shifts at Hidden Trail, with one of them mentioning that they worked mostly swing and overnight shifts.

• Despite the challenging hours, they both agree that the pay was good and they were getting overtime.

Singing Hallelujah

In this section, the speakers talk about singing and perform a short rendition of "Hallelujah."

Singing in the Shower

• One of the speakers talks about how they used to sing in the shower but only because their sister was a good singer.

• They mention that these microphones are really good for singing and encourage each other to give it a try.

Performance Anxiety

• One speaker is hesitant to sing but eventually performs a short rendition of "Hallelujah."

• They discuss how difficult it can be to hear yourself sing and how some people just don't have the gift for it.

Breakdancing Skills

• The conversation turns to breakdancing, with one speaker revealing that they used to take breakdancing classes when they were younger.

• They briefly discuss other performance skills like dancing and playing instruments.

Life Lessons and Recovery

In this section, the speaker talks about their experience with falling down and getting back up, the excitement of looking forward to life, and how aging can be difficult. They also discuss recovery and how to get in touch with them for support.

Life Lessons

• The speaker remembers falling down but bouncing right back up without getting hurt.

• They encourage others to look forward to life as there is a lot of good stuff to experience.

• The speaker provides their Instagram handle for anyone who needs support or a sponsor.

Recovery Journey

• The speaker has a sponsee but still feels like an imposter teaching others about recovery.

• They talk about the judgmental attitudes towards relapse in some parts of Orange County.

• The speaker shares their preference for the Costa Mesa Alano Club over Newport Club due to feeling more at home with those members.

Life Changes

• The speaker discusses growing up fortunate but staying in their disease after their parents left when they were 18.

• They express a desire for change from the competitive and fast-paced lifestyle in Orange County.

• The beach is mentioned as a happy place, but the cold weather during winter was tough on the speaker.

Personal Preferences

• The speaker dislikes sand and saltwater due to skin irritation and prefers wearing joggers, hoodies, and Crocs shoes.

• They share their love for wearing Crocs shoes despite being nerdy.

Jewish Gift Giving

In this section, the speakers discuss gift-giving in the Jewish community and express their gratitude for each other's company.

Gift-Giving in the Jewish Community

• The speakers mention that Jewish people give gifts frequently.

• They joke about needing a Jewish friend to receive more gifts.

Gratitude and Social Media

• The speakers express their appreciation for each other's company.

• They plan to share sound bites from the podcast on social media and tag each other.

The Movement Against Family Separation

In this section, the speakers discuss their movement against family separation and emphasize the importance of slowing down and stopping it.

Slowing Down Family Separation

• The speakers acknowledge that several families have been separated during the course of their podcast recording.

• They stress the need to slow down family separation.

Building a Movement

• The speakers explain that they are growing a platform to build a movement against family separation.

• They thank each other for being part of this movement.