The Indic Wing w/ J Sai Deepak | PG Radio ep. 72

The Indic Wing w/ J Sai Deepak | PG Radio ep. 72

Introduction and Background

The speaker expresses gratitude for the opportunity to speak and describes their background in law. They mention that their family is involved in legal professions and express admiration for the person they are speaking to.

  • The speaker compliments the person they are speaking to, describing them as one of the brightest lawyers/advocates/legal professionals they have met.
  • The speaker explains that their own background is in law, with their family being invested in legal professions.
  • They mention that they are doing this because they were impressed by the person's legal proficiency and enjoy listening to them.

Unconventional Story: From Engineer to Lawyer

The speaker discusses their unconventional journey from being an engineer to becoming a lawyer. They highlight that this transition may be more common in America compared to India.

  • The speaker acknowledges that their story is not typical, as they started as an engineer before pursuing law.
  • They mention that it is more common for engineers in America to switch to law, but less so in India where a BA LLB degree is more prevalent.
  • Despite facing opposition from their low middle-class family who wanted them to pursue engineering, the speaker chose law because they wanted to contribute to public discourse with proper training.

Motivation for Choosing Law

The speaker explains why they chose law as a means of contributing to public discourse and utilizing their logical reasoning skills.

  • The speaker felt that equipping themselves with legal qualifications would allow them to contribute effectively and speak on various subjects with logic and reason.
  • They emphasize their love for logic and reason, which made law seem like the right field for them.
  • Despite initial interest in aerospace engineering, the speaker realized that pursuing law would better position them for contributing meaningfully to societal discourse.

Transition from Engineering to Law

The speaker reflects on their transition from engineering to law, which occurred in 2006. They mention the changing landscape of national politics during that time.

  • In their final year of engineering, the speaker experienced a polarizing transition phase due to changes in campus and national politics.
  • They believed that pursuing law would allow them to contribute more effectively to public discourse.
  • The speaker acknowledges that they initially intended to pursue a master's degree in aerospace engineering but ultimately decided on law.

National Politics and Personal Background

The speaker discusses the changing national politics during their transition period and clarifies their personal background.

  • The speaker mentions that they are not from America but have been studying there and are currently unable to return due to circumstances.
  • They clarify that they have always been based in Delhi, India.
  • The speaker does not provide specific details about how national politics were changing during their transition period.

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The speaker discusses the failure of the India shining campaign and the return of the Congress government. They also mention the increasing polarization and slandering of indigenous identity under the UPA government.

The Impact of Political Events

  • The India shining campaign flopped, leading to the return of the Congress government.
  • There was an increasing polarization and slandering of indigenous identity under the UPA government.
  • The speaker personally witnessed these events during their growing years in 2004 and 2006.
  • They experienced firsthand how these events affected campus politics.

Personal Motivation for Public Life

  • The speaker felt a strong desire to be involved in public life, although not necessarily in politics.
  • Joining law school in 2008 further fueled their interest in public life.

Systemic Slandering and Urban India's Perception

The speaker discusses systemic slandering and its impact on urban India's perception. They highlight indoctrination through education, pop culture, celebrated intellectuals, published books, and normalization of Hindu phobia.

Understanding Systemic Slandering

  • The speaker is noted for speaking like a lawyer due to their precise way of presenting arguments.
  • Systemic slandering is not easily understood or accepted by urban India due to indoctrination.
  • Indoctrination occurs through education, pop culture, celebrated intellectuals, published books, etc.
  • Urban Indians themselves engage in systemic slandering due to their own beliefs.

Factors Contributing to Systemic Slandering

  • The normalization of Hindu phobia and the separation of caste identity from Hindu identity contribute to systemic slandering.
  • These factors have been present for a long time, with the foundation laid during Jawaharlal Nehru's tenure.
  • Cultural Marxism played a role in shaping this systemic slandering.

Conclusion

The speaker concludes by stating that the seeds for change were sown under Jawaharlal Nehru's leadership, leading to the significant political shift in 2014.

Impact of Cultural Marxism

  • The foundation for cultural Marxism was laid during Jawaharlal Nehru's tenure.
  • This contributed to the political change observed in 2014.

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The Lack of Systematic Response and Institutional Blame

The speaker discusses the lack of a systematic response and institutional blame for the issues faced in society. They highlight the role of the Ministry of Human Resource Development (MHRD) in not addressing these problems effectively.

Lack of Systematic Response and Institutional Blame

  • There is no systematic response or institutional solution to address the ongoing issues.
  • Blame lies not only with society but also with the MHRD ministry for neglecting their responsibility.
  • The MHRD does not consider it important to respond to these issues, leading to a lack of progress.
  • Textbooks have not seen significant changes, perpetuating a negative narrative about Indic identity.

Two Ways of Looking at Textbook Narratives

The speaker discusses two approaches to addressing textbook narratives - building a positive narrative and countering negative narratives.

Positive Narrative vs Negative Narrative

  • Building a positive narrative involves educating children about Bharat's concept, origin, and countering misplaced understanding of secularism.
  • Countering negative narratives involves challenging the vitriol against indigenous identity found in textbooks and humanities departments.
  • Textbooks play a crucial role in shaping perceptions from an early age, which continues throughout higher education.

Impact on Identity and Self-Esteem

The speaker highlights how textbooks' portrayal affects students' sense of identity, self-esteem, and contribution to global thought.

Impact on Identity and Self-Esteem

  • Textbooks undermine students' sense of identity by portraying them as products of defeated slave societies.
  • Science is portrayed as solely Western, erasing India's contributions from history.
  • This leads to a loss of self-esteem, political identity, and recognition for India's contributions to global thought.
  • The education system fails to provide a positive environment for students' growth and development.

Surviving Despite the Education System

The speaker emphasizes that individuals who manage to maintain their cultural filter and self-esteem are exceptions in an education system that undermines them.

Surviving Despite the Education System

  • Individuals who maintain their cultural filter and self-esteem are exceptions in an education system that undermines them.
  • Despite encountering negativity, those rooted in Bhartiya customs and belief systems can navigate through the outside world.
  • The education system in India often fails to make sense of political phenomena like the BJP or Modi for those leaning left.

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In this section, the speaker discusses the representation of a certain part of India by the government and shares their initial opinion on the government's ideology.

Understanding the Government's Representation

  • The majority support for the government indicates that it represents a specific part of India.
  • Initially, the speaker believed that the government had a right-leaning ideology until they had conversations with Ashish Dhar and Kushal.
  • According to Ashish Dhar, both political parties cater to different identities, but are not very different in their core ideas.
  • The speaker questions why the government does not address systemic slander towards Hindu or Indic identity.

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In this section, the speaker reflects on political discourse and its limitations in addressing issues related to Bharat.

Limitations of Political Discourse

  • Political discourse is often expedient, myopic, and opportunistic.
  • Relying solely on political options may not be effective in addressing issues related to Bharat.
  • The speaker believes that there is a marked difference between right-wing and Indic wing ideologies.
  • The current establishment lacks a clear vision for projecting Bharat's narrative within and outside the country.

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In this section, the speaker discusses how previous governments have lacked clarity in their commitment to Bharat.

Lack of Clarity in Previous Governments

  • The founder of Genesis party was perhaps the last person with civilizational clarity for Bharat.
  • Subsequent governments have not shown the same level of commitment and conviction.
  • The speaker highlights that the economic and cultural models adopted by different governments have been largely the same.

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In this section, the speaker addresses allegations against the current government and its approach towards minorities.

Approach Towards Minorities

  • The current government feels pressure to showcase its support for minorities, similar to previous governments.
  • The speaker criticizes the majority-minority narrative that continues under the current government.
  • Allegations made against previous governments are now being observed in the current dispensation as well.

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In this section, the speaker emphasizes the importance of observing how things work on the ground.

Importance of Practical Application

  • The proof of a government's ideology lies in its practical application on the ground.
  • The speaker urges for evidence-based analysis rather than relying solely on political rhetoric or claims.

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New Section

This section discusses the BJP's stance on minority identity and their fear of deviating from it due to concerns about hurting minority sentiment.

BJP's Stance on Minority Identity

  • The BJP is cautious about being seen as deviating from their policy on minority identity.
  • They are afraid of hurting minority sentiment, similar to how the Congress party was held hostage by this fear for seven decades.
  • There is no significant change in the BJP's approach to these issues.

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This section explores the perception that the BJP is consistently portrayed as anti-Muslim or anti-minority, and whether tokenization can counteract this narrative.

Perception of Being Anti-Muslim

  • The BJP faces a constant PR threat of being labeled as anti-Muslim or anti-minority.
  • Tokenization may be an attempt to counteract this narrative and project a more inclusive image.
  • Lack of confidence in changing the narrative hinders any substantial shift in perception.

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This section delves into the importance of political strength and confidence in shaping narratives.

Political Strength vs. Confidence

  • Political strength and confidence are distinct but interconnected factors.
  • While numbers (seats) may indicate political strength, true confidence is necessary for effective narrative change.
  • Lack of political will cannot be compensated solely by political strength; it is fundamentally incurable without confidence.

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This section discusses the need for a new narrative and addresses questions related to its content, lack of confidence, and differences between right-wing ideologies.

Need for a New Narrative

  • Many conservatives subscribe to colonialized notions inherited from British and American legacies.
  • The concept of "right" often focuses more on economics than other aspects.
  • The questions surrounding the narrative, confidence, and ideological differences are interconnected.

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This section emphasizes the importance of confidence in shaping narratives and addresses the difference between political strength and political will.

Confidence in Shaping Narratives

  • Confidence plays a crucial role in shaping narratives effectively.
  • Political strength may compensate for lack of political will, but it cannot replace it entirely.
  • Lack of political will is fatal and cannot be overcome by mere strength.

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This section highlights common themes related to the narrative, index mean, confidence, and ideological differences among conservatives.

Common Themes

  • Questions regarding the narrative, index mean, confidence, and ideological differences are interrelated.
  • These themes often arise when discussing conservative ideologies.

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In this section, the speaker discusses the distinction between the left and right camps in the US and UK political landscapes. They also introduce the concept of the Indic worldview as an alternative perspective.

Left vs Right Camps

  • The left camp aligns with liberal ideologies in the US and UK, while the right camp aligns with conservative ideologies.
  • The left camp includes parties like Labour in the UK, while the right camp includes parties like Tories.
  • The fundamental question that distinguishes these camps is their approach to governance.

Indic Worldview as an Alternative

  • The Indic worldview offers an alternative perspective to both left and right camps.
  • It focuses on sustainability, balance (Santulan), self-esteem, and beauty.
  • Unlike the left and right camps that prioritize individual rights, the Indic worldview emphasizes Dharma (duty) and Kartavya (responsibility).
  • According to this worldview, societal change starts with character-building at an individual level.

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In this section, the speaker further explains how the Indic worldview differs from other perspectives by emphasizing Dharma as a core value for society.

Importance of Dharma

  • The Indic worldview believes that unless individuals embrace Dharma as a guiding principle, societal progress cannot be achieved.
  • Society is seen as a macro representation of individuals' microcosm.
  • Investment in individuals who uphold Dharma leads to positive societal change.

Identity of India

  • Accepting and acknowledging that India's identity is Dharmic in nature is crucial.
  • Failure to recognize this identity makes one no different from other ideological systems such as Marxism or communism.

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In this section, the speaker addresses a question and expresses their observations about the topic discussed so far.

Observations and Questions

  • The speaker acknowledges that the ideas presented sound good.
  • However, they have noticed certain aspects that raise questions or concerns.
  • The speaker intends to explore these observations further in subsequent discussions.

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This section discusses the frustration of people in the early 20th century and the ideas of fascism and communism as potential solutions. It also highlights the limitations of ideas that sound great in theory but may not apply to society as a whole.

Frustration with Existing Needs

  • People were frustrated by existing needs, leading them to consider fascism or communism as potential solutions.
  • Ideas that sound great in theory may not necessarily be applicable to society as a whole.

Dharmic Responsibility Driven Model

  • The speaker raises the question of how to compete in an international political scenario with a Dharmic responsibility-driven model.
  • The answer lies in recognizing that concepts like communism and Christianity were invented subsequently, while Dharmic thought has existed for millennia.
  • The challenge lies in defending civilization from external threats while maintaining prosperity and stability.

Identity-Based Security

  • India must prioritize identity-based security to protect indigenous identities and ensure the continued existence of the country.
  • Clarity about this goal will help determine how to achieve it on the geostrategic front.

Protecting Ecosystem and Civilization

  • Geography plays a significant role in shaping mindset and civilization, which is why it needs protection.
  • The goal is to protect an ecosystem that allows for economic prosperity, social stability, and preservation of indigenous faith.

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This section emphasizes the importance of clarity regarding goals and strategies for achieving national security based on indigenous identity. It highlights geography's influence on mindset and civilization.

Achieving National Security Goals

  • Once there is clarity about protecting indigenous identity, it will guide decision-making on the geostrategic front.
  • The focus should be on achieving national security goals and not alienating other countries.

Importance of Clarity

  • Clarity about the goal of protecting indigenous identity will help clarify strategies and decision-making processes.
  • It provides a sense of confidence in dealing with other nations.

Protecting Dharmic Civilization

  • As long as the identity of Dharma and Indic faith exist in India, the country will continue to exist in its current form.
  • Failure to protect indigenous identity may lead to a path similar to Nepal, Sri Lanka, or Pakistan.

Identity-Based Security for Confidence

  • Identity-based security gives India the confidence to engage with other nations effectively.
  • The existing social structure has been responsible for economic prosperity and social stability, despite its flaws.

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China's Clarity and Consolidation

This section discusses how communism helped China consolidate its position and establish control over its landmass. It also mentions the setting up of Confucius institutes in various industries.

China's Clarity through Communism

  • After achieving clarity, China consolidated its position through communism.
  • Communism effectively helped China consolidate its position.
  • The Chinese version of communism believes in advancing Chinese civilization.

Confucius Institutes

  • China started setting up Confucius institutes in various industries.
  • These institutes were established to teach lessons and promote Chinese interests.

Bharat's Response to China

This section highlights the need for a strong response from Bharat (India) towards China. It also acknowledges that China has greater civilizational clarity compared to Bharat.

Need for a Solid Response

  • Bharat needs to get a clear response from China.
  • Lessons need to be taught to counteract what China is doing.

Greater Civilizational Clarity of China

  • China has greater civilizational clarity than Bharat.
  • Insecurity and corruption hinder Bharat's ability to respond effectively.

Understanding Dharma

This section explores the concept of Dharma and seeks clarification on its meaning and application in society.

Ambiguity of Dharma

  • The concept of Dharma is ambiguous when used in certain contexts.
  • Pinpointing the exact meaning of Dharma requires a consolidated definition.

Litmus Test for Dharma

  • Running institutions that consolidate the definition of Dharma can be a litmus test.
  • Consolidating the definition of a way of life is crucial in countering adversaries.

Exploring Justice and Righteous Conduct

This section delves into the concept of justice and righteous conduct, seeking to understand their definitions and implications within society.

Understanding Justice

  • Explaining the concept of justice can be challenging.
  • Defining righteous conduct or justice requires consolidation and clarity.

Ambiguity Surrounding Dharma

  • The concept of Dharma has been used by different individuals to further their own agendas.
  • A clear definition and understanding of Dharma are necessary to avoid misuse.

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In this section, the speaker discusses the importance of understanding the boundary conditions and circumstances in order to do justice. The concept of Dharma as a foundational jurisprudential concept is also introduced.

Understanding Boundary Conditions and Circumstances

  • It is important to understand the boundary conditions of a problem in order to effectively address it.
  • Justice requires considering the circumstances in which one hopes to do justice.
  • The first question to ask is what are the circumstances in which you hope to do justice.

Dharma as a Foundational Jurisprudential Concept

  • Dharma is a contextual concept that forms the bedrock of values for a civilization or culture.
  • The concept of justice in Roman goddess protocol and Anglosaxon jurisprudence comes from the three-letter word "JUS."
  • From JUS comes rest, which leads to the concepts of justice and law.
  • Dharma is a foundational jurisprudential concept that stems from cultural values.
  • Dharma affects various aspects such as gender justice, contractual relationships, marital relationships, environment, interpersonal relationships within society, and foreign policy.
  • Dharma speaks of righteous conduct and varies across different schools of thought in India.

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In this section, the speaker emphasizes adopting an indigenous definition of terms consistent with the spirit of India when defining Dharma. The lack of application of Dharma in policymaking is highlighted.

Adopting an Indigenous Definition

  • Each dispensation has the freedom to adopt a different definition of terms, but it should be consistent with the spirit of India.
  • The concept of Dharma is rarely applied in policymaking in modern independent India.

Lack of Application in Policymaking

  • Dharma is seldom mentioned by any ministry except for ornamental use during speeches or book releases related to law and justice.
  • The focus is often on topics like property rights and private property, while Dharma is overlooked.
  • Dharma has not been integrated into policymaking discussions.

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In this section, the speaker provides their fundamental definition of Dharma as a balance between individual rights and societal duty. The concept of fetters imposed by society is discussed.

Fundamental Definition of Dharma

  • Dharma seeks to strike a balance between individual rights and societal duty.
  • It acknowledges that individuals cannot act independently of society's interests.
  • Society imposes certain responsibilities on individuals.

Concept of Fetters

  • The concept that Dharma imposes acts as a fender between individual rights and societal duties.

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In this section, the speaker discusses the importance of Dharma as a legal bedrock and cultural burner. They also reflect on diversity within their own context.

Importance of Dharma as Legal Bedrock

  • The speaker emphasizes the significance of having Dharma as a legal bedrock and cultural foundation.
  • They highlight the saturation with diversity in their own context.

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This section discusses the composite nature of different tangents and vectors in relation to an obstacle. The speaker mentions that their actions may not make sense harmonically and seeks understanding.

Understanding the Composite Nature

  • The speaker highlights that the topic at hand is a composite of various tangents and vectors.
  • They mention an obvious obstacle that they cannot act upon, but Allison can.
  • The speaker acknowledges that almost everything they do in this situation would not make sense harmonically.

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This section delves into the history of princely states before 1947 and how it relates to making sense of the current situation.

History of Princely States

  • The answer to making sense lies in the history of princely states before 1947.
  • Hindu princely states functioned based on Hindu Dharma.
  • Different princely states like Travancore, Mewar, and Mysore operated on Hindu Dharma.
  • These states had diverse populations with people speaking different languages and practicing different cultures.

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This section explores the creation of states in 1956 based on linguistic basis, leading to a compartmentalization of identities.

Creation of States Based on Language

  • The problematic issue lies in the creation of states exclusively based on linguistic factors in 1956.
  • This led to perceiving each other as different people based on language differences.
  • The speaker emphasizes that people have lived together with porous borders and political entities for centuries.
  • Hyderabad is cited as an example where one can survive without speaking Telugu due to cultural diversity.

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This section highlights the coexistence of different linguistic and cultural groups in various regions.

Coexistence of Linguistic and Cultural Groups

  • The fact is that people have lived in porous political entities with different languages and cultures.
  • Various linguistic groups like Parsis, Bengalis, Kannadigas, Malayalis, Telugus, Tamilians, and Maharashtrians have coexisted.
  • The speaker mentions examples like Hyderabad and Bangalore where survival without speaking the local language is possible due to the presence of diverse communities.

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This section emphasizes the long-standing existence of diverse identities within regions.

Long-standing Existence of Diverse Identities

  • The speaker highlights that diverse identities have existed for centuries.
  • They mention examples like priests from Mangalore serving in Nepal and Shankaracharyas establishing institutions across the country.
  • The speaker points out that fighting for regional identity today is a result of compartmentalization post 1956.

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This section discusses the organization of states based on language in 1956 and its impact on language optimism prevailing over civilization realism.

Impact of Language-based Organization

  • The organization of states based on language in 1956 has led to language optimism prevailing over civilization realism.
  • The internet is seen as subservient to this issue, causing problems with compartmentalization of identities.

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In this section, the speaker addresses concerns about the radical nature of advocating for equal rights for women and non-binary individuals in Hindu culture.

Is Advocating for Equal Rights Radical?

  • The speaker acknowledges that some may view advocating for equal rights as radical.
  • They highlight the common anxiety people may have when hearing about progress being made towards equality.
  • The speaker emphasizes the importance of education to address these anxieties and points out that there is no recorded history of persecution of non-binary gender identities in Hindu culture.
  • Celebrating diversity and allowing individuals to express their identity without harm or suppression is crucial.
  • The speaker asserts that LGBTQ+ rights should not be lectured by anyone from the West or liberal camp, as they have their own approach rooted in their culture.

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In this section, the speaker discusses the celebration of diverse identities in Hindu culture and emphasizes the need to respect individual choices.

Celebrating Diversity and Respecting Choices

  • There is no recorded history of persecution against non-binary gender identities in Hindu culture; instead, it is celebrated.
  • The celebration stems from accepting individuals' chosen identities as long as they do not cause harm.
  • It is important not to stifle or suffocate anyone's identity; everyone should be given space to practice and express themselves freely.
  • The speaker asserts that those who want exclusive institutions dedicated to specific identities should be provided with that space.

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In this section, the speaker challenges external perspectives on LGBTQ+ rights in India and highlights India's historical resilience despite invasions and atrocities.

Challenging External Perspectives on LGBTQ+ Rights

  • The speaker suggests reading Max Mueller's book, "India - What it can teach us," to gain a better understanding of India's cultural fabric.
  • Despite controversies surrounding Mueller's views on India, the book emphasizes India's ability to maintain its societal model despite invasions and atrocities.
  • The speaker asserts that any issues related to women's rights or LGBTQ+ rights should be understood within the context of Indian history and culture.
  • External lectures on LGBTQ+ rights from the West or liberal camp are not necessary; instead, they should learn from Indian perspectives.

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In this section, the speaker shares personal experiences and highlights instances of discrimination during the Nizam period in Hyderabad.

Discrimination During the Nizam Period

  • The speaker mentions living under the Nizam as a Hindu in Hyderabad.
  • They recall instances where individuals without proper attire were picked up by the Nizam's entourage on the streets.
  • These incidents highlight discriminatory practices during that period.

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Impact of Barbaric Invasions on Society

The speaker discusses the impact of barbaric invasions on society, particularly in relation to the treatment of women as war booty. This has influenced how rules are rewarded and the response mechanisms within society.

The Treatment of Transgender Community in Modern India

  • The speaker highlights that modern India is not kind to its transgender community, often relegating them to derogatory terms such as "Chakkas and Hijdas."
  • There is a need for the transgender community to band together and live collectively.
  • The speaker suggests that in the past, India may have been more civilized, tolerant, and inclusive when it had more agency over itself.

Understanding the Asian Narrative

The speaker reflects on the convoluted nature of the Asian narrative and raises questions about understanding it.

Navigating Uncertainty and Revisiting Traditional Ways of Life

  • The speaker acknowledges that while they can imagine going back to traditional ways of life, they find it challenging due to uncertainty.
  • They express hesitation in fully embracing J Sai's perspective without knowing what it would look like.
  • There is a question regarding whether this perspective is romanticized or if there is genuine merit to it.

Origin of Derogatory Terms: Chakka, Mawali, Hijda

The discussion revolves around the origin of derogatory terms used in Indian culture.

Origins of Chakka, Mawali, Hijda

  • Chakka and Mawali originated from Persian influence during Arab invasions. Persians attached themselves to Arab masters for social standing.
  • Hijda comes from Urdu and Arabic languages. It does not originate from Shuddh Hindi.
  • These terms reflect how modern India has become a caricature with various influences and consequences over time.

Importance of Education in Shaping Culture

The speaker emphasizes the significance of education in shaping culture and reversing negative influences.

Learning from the Israeli Experience

  • The speaker suggests learning from the Israeli experience, where investing in education and changing mindsets played a crucial role.
  • Hebrew was revived as a national language through educational efforts.
  • Education is seen as the building block for changing perspectives and creating positive change.

The Power of Education and Reasoning

The discussion focuses on the power of education and reasoning in transforming society.

Education as the Foundation for Change

  • Education is considered essential for building a strong foundation in society.
  • Pure reason and unadulterated reason are concepts accepted in psychology and jurisprudence.
  • The speaker highlights that education is key to reversing negative cultural influences.

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This section discusses the influence of education on acquired reason and its impact on society.

Education and Acquired Reason

  • Education plays a significant role in shaping acquired reason.
  • Acquired reason is influenced by conditioning from family and society.
  • The values taught by family and education can corrupt or add to one's acquired reason.
  • History textbooks and educational values have consequences for individuals and society.
  • Changing the curriculum can test the validity of different perspectives.

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This section explores the impact of education on individuals, society, and worldviews.

Education's Impact on Society

  • Education has a profound impact on people, society, and worldviews.
  • The investment in education is based on the belief that it will positively influence society.
  • Different forms of education can lead to different outcomes for future generations.
  • If alternative perspectives become mainstream through education, they can shape society.

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This section highlights the importance of education in understanding diverse perspectives.

Understanding Diverse Perspectives

  • Education plays a crucial role in understanding different worldviews.
  • A judge educated at prestigious institutions may struggle to respect alternative cultural practices.
  • Different educational backgrounds can shape one's perception of other ways of life.
  • Movements like feminism originated in societies influenced by certain religious beliefs.

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This section emphasizes the significance of education in shaping societal norms.

Shaping Societal Norms

  • Education has a direct impact on societal norms and values.
  • Introducing alternative forms of education can challenge existing norms.
  • If alternative perspectives become mainstream through education, they redefine what is considered normal.

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This section discusses the potential societal impact of alternative education.

Societal Impact of Alternative Education

  • If individuals with alternative education backgrounds can thrive in the current system, it suggests a potential for societal change.
  • Mainstreaming alternative perspectives through education can lead to a shift in societal norms and values.

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In this section, the speaker discusses the intellectualism and vision of M. S. Golwalkar and K. B. Hedgewar, founders of the RSS organization. The speaker expresses their disagreements with these figures but acknowledges their intellectual prowess.

Intellectualism and Vision of M.S. Golwalkar and K.B. Hedgewar

  • The writings and thoughts of M.S. Golwalkar (Guruji) and K.B. Hedgewar (Doctorji) were highly regarded.
  • They were ahead of their successors in terms of depth, intellectualism, and vision.
  • The speaker admits to having disagreements with these figures as well as other prominent personalities like Swami Vivekananda.
  • However, there are few individuals within the RSS who can articulate positions clearly, provide information, engage in erudite debates with those on the left.

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In this section, the speaker reflects on how the RSS has evolved over time and expresses concerns about its current state.

Evolution of RSS and Current Concerns

  • Over time, the RSS has transformed into an organization primarily focused on humanitarian aid rather than upholding its original vision.
  • The speaker believes that the RSS lacks a clear response to the left ecosystem.
  • While they may be effective during elections, they lack a comprehensive civilizational vision or narrative.
  • Few individuals within the RSS possess clarity, information, erudition, and debating skills necessary to engage with those on the left.
  • The speaker suggests having public discussions involving both left-leaning individuals and representatives from RSS to explore different perspectives.

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In this section, the speaker acknowledges that despite their criticisms, they recognize the significant human resource potential within the RSS organization.

Human Resource Potential of RSS

  • The RSS boasts a vast human resource base, with approximately 70,000 Shakhas (branches) and an estimated seven lakh (700,000) members.
  • This makes it one of the largest organizations in India, second only to the Indian army in terms of cultural nature.
  • With such a significant human resource potential, the RSS has the capacity to bring about substantial change if properly directed.

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In this section, the speaker expresses their doubts about the effectiveness of current RSS Shakhas and their limited impact beyond election campaigns.

Effectiveness of Current RSS Shakhas

  • The speaker believes that the current structure of RSS Shakhas does not serve its intended purpose effectively.
  • While they excel at mobilizing support during elections for the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), they lack intellectual depth and do not function as a formidable force.
  • The speaker wishes for the organization to improve and better understand societal dynamics.

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In this section, the speaker discusses alternative means or experiments that could reveal different results without causing radical changes.

Exploring Alternative Means

  • The listener suggests exploring safer experiments that can provide insights into alternative approaches without causing drastic upheaval.
  • They express anxiety about radical changes but are open to considering other options proposed by the speaker.

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The speaker discusses the need for a theoretical understanding of the Indic World and expresses appreciation for a solution that is not limited to political parties like BJP or Congress. They emphasize the importance of finding alternative solutions and suggest that debates might help in changing the demographic entirely.

Acquiring Theoretical Grasp

  • The speaker mentions the importance of acquiring a theoretical grasp.
  • They express interest in familiarizing themselves with the Indic World.

Beyond Political Parties

  • The speaker appreciates a solution that is not limited to political parties like BJP or Congress.
  • They express frustration with discussions centered around these parties and seek an out-of-the-box approach.

A Synthetic Solution

  • The speaker suggests the need for a synthetic or antithetic solution to address existing issues.
  • They propose that debates might be helpful in bringing about change.

Changing Demographics

  • The speaker questions whether it is right to consider changing demographics entirely.
  • They believe that practicing one's ancestral faith should not be disrupted, regardless of how it was inherited or converted.

Sense of Civilizational Unity

  • The speaker emphasizes the importance of fostering a sense of civilizational unity.
  • They advocate for mainstreaming every tradition, parampara, and form of life through education.

Educational Institutions and Identity

  • The speaker highlights differences between students from different types of educational institutions.
  • They argue that students from certain institutions represent a particular identity while others exhibit self-loathing tendencies.

Constitutional Backing for Education

  • The speaker refers to Article 26, 29, and 30 of the constitution which grant communities rights to establish educational institutions.
  • They assert that education is crucial for preserving a way of life and shaping people's minds.

Institutional Autonomy and Freedom

  • The speaker emphasizes the need for resources, institutional autonomy, and freedom to ensure quality education.
  • They suggest that communities should have the resources to run their own schools.

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New Section

This section discusses the exemption of Archons from legislations, the governance of temples, and the challenges faced in establishing Hindu-oriented schools.

Exemption of Archons and Governance of Temples

  • Archons are exempt from legislations, while temples are governed by these legislations.
  • As a result, temples cannot run their schools independently.
  • Establishing a Hindu-oriented school in the state of Tamina faces resistance due to bureaucratic opposition against indigenous identity.

The Power of an Intransigent Minority

  • An intransigent minority can have significant influence and resist change.
  • It is not necessary to have a billion people who think like this; enough people who hold firm to their way of life can bring about change.
  • Influencers and guardians play a crucial role in shaping society's direction.

Accommodation vs. Conflict

  • When one refuses to compromise or change, the rest of the world must decide whether to accommodate or enter into conflict.
  • In most cases, accommodation prevails over conflict.
  • Examples such as Jinnah's stance against Gandhi demonstrate how those who do not compromise often succeed.

New Section

This section explores the inclusive nature and value preservation within the Indic identity. It also acknowledges Upword and its thought-provoking messages.

Inclusivity and Value Preservation

  • The Indic way of life is inclusive and values traditions that have stood the test of time.
  • There is something valuable to be learned from preserving these traditions.

Recognition for Cognitive Horsepower

  • Ashish, associated with Upword, offers unique perspectives that challenge mainstream narratives.
  • His cognitive horsepower deserves recognition for making sense amidst differing political positions.

New Section

This section clarifies the speaker's role and involvement with Upword and the Indic Collective.

Role Clarification

  • The speaker is not associated with Upword or the Indic Collective but has worked closely with them.
  • The speaker acknowledges the contributions of the Indian collective in establishing Upword.
  • The speaker serves as a lawyer for the collective cause.

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New Section

In this section, the speaker discusses the importance of consuming information in a concise and visual manner due to people's limited attention span. They also emphasize the need to support organizations that provide valuable content.

The Importance of Consuming Information Efficiently

  • Ashish is credited for developing a model that allows people to consume important information quickly and effectively.
  • People nowadays have difficulty reading beyond a few minutes, leading to a preference for visual mediums.
  • Supporting organizations like Upword and Into Collective can help turn around the narrative by providing impactful content.

Urging Support for Valuable Organizations

  • Listeners are encouraged to support organizations like Upword and Into Collective in any way possible.
  • The speaker, as an outsider, has witnessed the commitment and impact these organizations have on their causes.

New Section

In this section, the speaker shares their sources of knowledge and emphasizes their role as a presenter rather than a pioneer or thought leader.

Sources of Knowledge

  • The speaker repackages literature they have already read from various sources.
  • Some of their sources include Dr. Meenaksh, Sei Seetaram Goyal, Shriram Swaroop, Sri Dharam Pal, Radha Kumud Mukherjee, Sri Jadunath Sarkar, R.C. Majumdar, K.M. Munshi, Rajagopalachary, and Michelle Danino.

Role as a Presenter

  • The speaker presents these views in a relatable way for the current generation.
  • They do not consider themselves a pioneer or thought leader, but rather someone who presents existing options in a more accessible manner.

New Section

In this section, the speaker discusses the distinction between spirituality and practical civilizational narratives.

Practical Civilizational Narratives

  • The focus is on practical and applicable civilizational narratives that work in the real world.
  • Spirituality is seen as a separate stage or level of discourse.

Conclusion

The speaker emphasizes the importance of consuming information efficiently and supporting organizations that provide valuable content. They share their sources of knowledge and highlight their role as a presenter rather than a pioneer or thought leader. Additionally, they discuss the distinction between spirituality and practical civilizational narratives.

New Section

The speaker discusses the application and understanding of adhyatma (spirituality) in real-world contexts such as politics, culture, and literature. They express their personal readiness for spirituality and recommend literature that charges one into action.

Understanding Adhyatma in Real-World Contexts

  • The speaker is interested in how adhyatma is applied and understood in mundane contexts like politics and culture.
  • They admit that they are not yet ready for spirituality but acknowledge its significance in Bharat's soul and spirit.
  • The speaker recommends literature that inspires action and provides a deeper understanding of the country's origins.

New Section

The speaker emphasizes the importance of literature that reveals the essence of India and its historical aspects. They mention specific authors who have contributed to this narrative.

Literature Reflecting India's Essence

  • The recommended literature helps individuals understand the essence of India, its origins, and cultural heritage.
  • The speaker suggests reading books by certain authors who have delved into these topics.
  • Despite considering themselves well-read, the speaker admits to being unfamiliar with many names from the suggested list, highlighting a potential gap in conventional education.

New Section

The conversation concludes with gratitude for the enlightening discussion. The note-taker expresses interest in learning more about the speaker.

Conclusion and Personal Background

  • The note-taker expresses gratitude for the insightful conversation and acknowledges learning a lot from it.
  • They inquire about the background of the speaker to gain further understanding.
  • In response, the speaker shares their journey as a student studying psychology and economics at Columbia University after initially pursuing chartered accountancy.
  • They explain their transition into philosophy, psychology, economics research, and becoming a YouTuber while still being a student.
  • The speaker plans to take a break from studies to focus on their YouTube channel but intends to return to academia later.

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Education and Background

The speaker discusses their education and background, including their experience in India and their move to a different country.

Education and Background

  • The speaker is waiting to fly back to India after finishing their education.
  • They grew up in Faridabad, near Noida, and moved to a different country in 2017.
  • They have been observing the work culture since then.
  • The speaker has firsthand experience of the transformation happening in India.
  • Moving outside of India gave them an objective view of the country.
  • They believe in having "skin in the game" to have a valid opinion.

Conversations and Perspectives

The speaker reflects on transformative conversations they had with individuals who provided unique perspectives on Indian politics.

Conversations and Perspectives

  • The speaker had transformative conversations with Ashish and Kushal about non-mainstream political views.
  • Mainstream politics (Congress, BJP, AAP) does not satisfy the speaker's soul.
  • Ashish suggested talking to the person they are currently speaking with.
  • Many suggestions from viewers led to this conversation taking place.

Personal Journey and Future Plans

The speaker shares details about themselves, including their academic background, interests, and plans for future discussions.

Personal Journey and Future Plans

  • The speaker is 24 years old, studying economics and psychology.
  • They did not finish accounting but completed company secretaryship.
  • Their lawyer instinct is still present but used differently now.
  • They express gratitude for being invited as a guest on the platform.
  • The speaker acknowledges that they have much more to learn at their age.
  • They express interest in future discussions if they return to India.

Conclusion and Future Discussions

The speaker concludes the conversation, expressing appreciation and discussing the potential for future discussions on developments in India.

Conclusion and Future Discussions

  • The speaker thanks the host for having them as a guest.
  • They express amazement at the host's knowledge at such a young age.
  • The speaker wishes the host success in their endeavors.
  • They mention that there will be more developments in India worth discussing in the future.