CRISTO Y LA MAGIA SECRETA. Enseñanzas de José Luis Parise PARTE 1

Christ and the Secret Magic

Introduction to the Discussion

• The host expresses excitement about a special Christmas event featuring José Luis Parise, who is well-respected in various communities.

• The host acknowledges the difficulty of coordinating schedules, emphasizing gratitude for José Luis's participation on this significant day.

Topic Overview: Christ and the Secret Magic

• The discussion will focus on "Christ and the Secret Magic," relevant to the holiday season. A follow-up live session is scheduled for January 17th at 21:00 Spain time.

• José Luis highlights the urgency of discussing this topic, especially during Christmas, as it relates to prophecies concerning humanity since 2012.

Humanity's Commitment to a New Era

• He notes that humanity has forgotten its commitment to a new era marked by events from 2012 onward, which was prophesied.

• Reflecting on historical changes, he compares current human understanding of these shifts with those experienced around Christ’s time 2000 years ago.

Understanding Christ's Teachings

• José Luis emphasizes that many people are confused about what constitutes a change in era today compared to teachings from Christ.

• He mentions using visual aids (slides/pictures) to illustrate key concepts related to Christ and his teachings effectively.

The Significance of Visual Representations

• He discusses how certain images can reveal deeper meanings about Christ’s role in changing eras and how they are often misinterpreted or disregarded.

• Emphasizing personal choice, he states that each individual must embrace change for there to be an actual shift in humanity.

Misinterpretation of Historical Context

• José Luis critiques how religious narratives have overshadowed true interpretations of Christ’s teachings, suggesting that misconceptions hinder understanding.

Exploring the Concept of Christ as a Magician

The Significance of the Vessel

• The discussion begins with the importance of how photographs and lighting can affect perceptions of artifacts, specifically a vessel linked to Christ in the 1st century.

• This vessel is believed to correspond to the time when Christ was in Egypt, as mentioned in official biblical texts, emphasizing its historical significance.

Understanding Christ's Identity

• The speaker suggests that viewing Christ primarily as a divine figure limits understanding; instead, he should be seen as a magician who offers insights into human divinity.

• The vessel serves as an entry point for exploring this perspective, encouraging individuals to engage personally with the concept of Christ beyond religious confines.

Magic and Divination Practices

• In ancient Alexandria, vessels like this were used by magicians for divination practices involving oils and inks that connected them with their clients' energies.

• This highlights that during that era, Christ was associated with magical practices rather than solely religious ones.

Breaking Down Barriers

• A call is made to dismantle preconceived notions about accepting Christ as a human who discovered his path to divinity through magic.

• The speaker encourages listeners to take notes and reflect on their understanding of magic in relation to Christ’s teachings.

Defining Magic's Role

• Questions arise regarding what type of magic is being discussed; it challenges conventional views by suggesting it involves practical methods rather than mere illusions.

• The speaker shares personal experiences studying sacred texts across cultures, noting commonalities in how different societies perceive magic and wisdom.

Creating Reality Through Magic

• Emphasizing an 11-step method for manifesting reality, the speaker argues that humans have the power to create their own realities through spiritual practices.

• This approach contrasts traditional beliefs where divinity adapts to reality; instead, it posits that individuals can shape their existence actively.

Navigating Cultural Paradigms

• Discussion shifts towards how cultural paradigms influence individual paths—whether through faith or scientific innovation—and emphasizes personal agency in spiritual journeys.

Philosophical Insights on Divinity and Magic

The Connection Between Humanity and the Divine

• The speaker discusses their experiences connecting with sacred beings across cultures, emphasizing that these connections exist on a shared frequency, which they aim to confirm through practical application.

• José Luis highlights the effectiveness of the speaker's teachings in generating reality, supported by numerous testimonials available on their school's website.

• The importance of viewing figures like Christ, Buddha, Krishna, and Muhammad as human models is stressed; otherwise, humanity risks feeling alienated from divinity while incarnated.

Understanding Magic as a Bridge

• The concept of magic is introduced as a crucial bridge between humanity and divinity. There are 11 steps involved in this process that apply universally across all life areas.

• The speaker dedicates their life to teaching the hidden aspects of Christ's life before and after his crucifixion, drawing parallels with other spiritual leaders' journeys.

The Role of Results in Spiritual Growth

• Learning about magic can lead humans to results previously unattainable; however, true growth begins when one seeks further connection with their divinity rather than becoming complacent with initial successes.

• Eastern myths illustrate that once a human releases the magical potential within (like rubbing a lamp), they must be cautious not to anger it by failing to pursue deeper understanding beyond mere wishes.

Historical Context of Christ as a Magician

• The speaker notes how historical depictions often show Christ wielding a magician's staff or wand, suggesting he was viewed as a figure who bridged human experience with divine power.

• They argue that understanding these representations helps clarify how Christ serves as an example for humans seeking divine paths without being born into divinity themselves.

Universal Lessons from Sacred Figures

• Emphasizing that all sacred texts affirm humanity’s ability to connect with divinity during earthly existence challenges the notion that such connections are reserved for post-incarnation experiences.

• Throughout history, various cultures have depicted Christ consistently holding symbols associated with magic. This suggests an enduring recognition of his role in bridging human limitations and divine possibilities.

The Disappearance of Christ's Magical Representation

Historical Context of Christ as a Magician

• The representation of Christ as a magician was prevalent in ancient cultures, including Greece and the Middle East, where he was referred to as "magus" without controversy.

• The Talmud, an official text from the same region, also identifies Christ as a magician, indicating that this perception was widespread among various sects like the Pharisees and Sadducees.

• Origen's writings from around 200 AD reference Celsus, who frequently labeled Christ as a magician; however, Celsus' original texts are not available for direct citation.

• There is mention of magi visiting Christ at his birth due to prophecies, suggesting an established connection between magic and early perceptions of Jesus.

• Justin Martyr refers to Christ in similar terms during his martyrdom, reinforcing the idea that these interpretations were not isolated or whimsical.

Transformation Post-Constantine

• A significant shift occurred in the 3rd to 4th centuries AD when representations of Christ began to be altered or destroyed following Constantine's conversion around 311 AD.

• Constantine sought to align Christianity with imperial authority by redefining Christ away from human-like qualities towards a divine figure beyond human reach.

• This transformation led to a view of Christ as admirable yet unattainable for ordinary humans, distancing him from magical associations and emphasizing religious faith instead.

Canonization and Its Implications

• The Council of Nicaea played a crucial role in canonizing the four gospels; however, their origins are shrouded in myth rather than historical fact.

• The church propagated narratives that suggested the gospels appeared miraculously rather than through human effort or understanding of magic.

Divergence in Gospel Accounts

• Among the gospel writers, only John claims personal experience with Jesus; he does not focus on traditional religious elements like virgin birth but emphasizes mystical teachings related to magic.

• John's narrative begins with themes connected to Eastern traditions and magic practices learned by Jesus during his travels.

Reframing Understanding of Divinity

• A call is made for re-evaluating how we perceive Jesus—moving away from post-Nicaean religious constructs towards recognizing him as someone who bridged humanity with divinity through magical practices.

• Emphasizing personal divinity suggests that everyone has access to this bridge if they choose to engage with it actively.

Conclusion: A New Perspective on Magic and Divinity

Understanding the Human Aspect of Christ

The Humanity of Christ

• The speaker emphasizes that figures who seem distant are, in fact, human beings with flesh and blood. They highlight the importance of utilizing one's potential through understanding Christ's teachings.

• There is a focus on the closeness of Christ, contrasting the perception of Him as merely a magician versus recognizing His divine birth. This distinction is crucial for appreciating His grace and charisma.

Addressing Human Problems

• The speaker argues that understanding Christ's approach to human problems is essential. He faced similar issues as modern individuals but chose a different path, which he explores in his second book titled "The Other Path."

• Discussion shifts to what happened during the crucifixion and how it has been interpreted over time. The speaker intends to explore these concepts without delving into supposed miracles.

Language and Interpretation

• Understanding Christ's language is deemed vital; however, there are no written records from those who listened to Him directly. This leads to varying reliability among gospels based on their proximity to actual events.

• The Gospel of Thomas is mentioned as potentially one of the most reliable accounts due to its close connection with Christ’s teachings, despite being labeled apocryphal by church councils.

Disciples' Perspectives

• The speaker notes that while Thomas and John were direct disciples of Christ, other gospel writers like Mark had different focuses. Mark’s account lacks certain narratives found in others but remains significant for its early composition.

• Emphasis is placed on how terminology used during Christ's time affects interpretation today. While He primarily spoke Hebrew and Aramaic, Greek was also prevalent in communication.

Misinterpretations Over Time

• The transition from Hebrew/Aramaic to Greek and then Latin led to misinterpretations of Christ’s message. Latin translations are criticized for distorting original meanings akin to watching a foreign film dubbed poorly into another language.

• A strong critique arises regarding how Latin translations have disrespected the essence of Christ’s teachings by imposing an alien context onto them.

Key Terminology: Taumaturgo (Miracle Worker)

• The term "taumaturgo" (miracle worker), which was commonly used during Jesus’ time, highlights how He was perceived differently than simply as 'Messiah.'

The Concept of Taumaturgo in Relation to Christ

Understanding Taumaturgo and Its Significance

• The term "taumaturgo" refers to someone who performs miracles through magic, directly linking it to the concept of Christ as a miracle worker.

• Christ is depicted as a magician (mago) wielding a wand, emphasizing that this representation does not diminish his divinity but rather highlights his unique role among contemporaries.

• Unlike other magicians of his time, such as Apollonius of Tyana, Christ's interest in divinity sets him apart; he was one among many miracle workers yet had a distinct purpose.

The Context of Magic in Christ's Era

• During Christ's time, there were numerous magicians; thus, he was not an anomaly but part of a broader cultural phenomenon involving miraculous acts.

• Historical accounts from figures like Flavius Josephus indicate that while official Hebrew doctrine rejected magic, practitioners still engaged in it, creating tension within society.

Levels of Magic and Divine Connection

• Not all taumaturgos achieved the same level of magical prowess; only a few reached the divine status associated with their practices.

• Nicodemus represents an authority figure seeking deeper understanding from Christ about true magical practice versus mere rhetoric.

Teaching Dynamics Between Christ and His Disciples

• The distinction between being a true taumaturgo and merely speaking about magic is emphasized by Christ’s teachings to Nicodemus regarding practical application versus theoretical knowledge.

• The essence of taumaturgo involves generating divinity through one's magical acts rather than just performing tricks or illusions.

Paul’s Encounter with the Concept of Divinity

• The narrative shifts to Paul (Saul of Tarsus), who embodies the conflict between human limitations and divine encounters during his transformative experience with Christ.

• Paul's uncertainty about whether he encountered a physical manifestation or vision reflects broader themes regarding perception and belief in divine experiences.

Techniques and Teachings Passed Down

• Paul articulates that Jesus taught him techniques akin to those used by magicians for overcoming situational constraints—an idea resonating with historical figures like Gandhi.

• This teaching emphasizes using existing circumstances strategically for liberation rather than succumbing to limitations imposed by them.

Esoteric Interpretations Within Biblical Text

• Paul’s presence in biblical texts often carries esoteric meanings; understanding these layers requires deep study beyond surface-level interpretations.

• A significant connection is drawn between Paul and Simon Magus, suggesting that deeper insights into their roles reveal critical aspects of early Christian teachings.

Christ as a Magician: Exploring the Divine

The Influence of Christ's Journey

• Discussion on Christ's physical presence and his connection to Simon the Magician, highlighting how he learned magic during his travels to India and Egypt.

• Emphasis on the mystical experiences in these regions, suggesting that Christ's teachings were influenced by ancient magical traditions encountered during his journeys.

Understanding Christ’s Teachings

• Exploration of how Christ presented himself as a magician in biblical texts, using phrases like "hearing but not understanding" to convey deeper meanings to his disciples.

• Analysis of the significance behind Christ’s teachings, indicating that true understanding requires personal effort and engagement with spiritual knowledge.

The Role of Carpentry in Spirituality

• Examination of carpentry as a sacred profession in ancient Israel, questioning why so many carpenters existed when wood was scarce for construction.

• Discussion on the idea that carpenters were seen as sacred figures who could enter temples, linking their work to divine practices.

Magic and Divinity Connection

• Insight into how carpenters were associated with magic due to their use of materials like wood glue, which had intoxicating effects similar to modern substances.

• Suggestion that Christ’s identity as a carpenter may symbolize a deeper connection between craftsmanship and magical abilities.

Initiation into Spiritual Paths

• Argument that recognizing Christ as a magician opens pathways for humans to pursue divinity themselves, drawing parallels with other historical figures like Krishna and Buddha.

• Invitation for listeners to adopt Christ's phrase "I am the way" personally, emphasizing its transformative potential for spiritual initiation.

Closing Reflections

• Acknowledgment of the complexity surrounding these discussions; appreciation expressed towards those dedicated to exploring such topics deeply.

Connecting with Divinity

The Role of Christ in Initiation

• The speaker emphasizes the importance of connecting with one's divinity, as exemplified by Christ. They highlight that this connection opens a door to spiritual awakening and transformation.

• The concept of initiation is introduced, suggesting that individuals are born to connect with their divine essence. The speaker expresses gratitude for the opportunity to discuss this topic and shares their dedication to studying, practicing, and teaching initiation.

• There is a call for humanity to recognize the significance of the current era's change, indicating that awareness and understanding are crucial for personal and collective evolution.

• The speaker refers to Christ not just as a historical figure but as a powerful archetype (the taumaturgo or miracle worker), urging listeners not to overlook his teachings in favor of superficial concerns.