Robert Kiyosaki Interview with Patrick Bet-David

Robert Kiyosaki Interview with Patrick Bet-David

Introduction and Background

In this section, Robert discusses his background and the books that have influenced him.

Robert's Background

  • Robert shares his history with the audience, mentioning how he learned about sales and personal development after leaving the army.
  • He recommends reading "How to Master the Art of Selling" by Tom Hopkins, "How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie, and "Rich Dad Poor Dad" by himself.
  • He highlights the impact of "Rich Dad Poor Dad," stating that over 20 million copies have been sold worldwide.

Introduction to "Second Chance"

Robert introduces his book "Second Chance" and explains its purpose.

About "Second Chance"

  • "Second Chance" was published in January 2015 as a follow-up to "Rich Dad Poor Dad."
  • The book explores the financial crisis and how people are being taken advantage of.
  • It presents pictures, graphs, and stories to illustrate the history of the crisis and its impact on society.
  • Robert emphasizes that anyone can understand the book's message, even children.

The Birth of "Second Chance"

Robert explains why he wrote "Second Chance" after publishing "Rich Dad Poor Dad."

Motivation for Writing

  • In 1972 and 1976 during his time in Vietnam, Robert realized that governments could lie to their people.
  • He felt disturbed by this realization but had to tone down his message when writing "Rich Dad Poor Dad."
  • However, now that many predictions from his previous book have come true, he felt it was time to address these issues more directly in "Second Chance."

Buckminster Fuller and Predictions

Robert discusses the influence of Buckminster Fuller and his interest in predictions.

Buckminster Fuller

  • Buckminster Fuller, known for inventing the geodesic dome, was a futurist and a socialist.
  • Robert first encountered Fuller's work at the 1967 World's Fair in Montreal.
  • In 1981, he met Fuller in person and was inspired to take on a social responsibility to speak out.

Transition to Teaching

Robert explains how meeting Buckminster Fuller led him to transition from entrepreneurship to teaching.

Transitioning to Teaching

  • In 1983, Robert sold his business and started teaching what he had learned about entrepreneurship and financial education.
  • He embarked on this new path with his wife and friend Blair Singer.

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New Section

In this section, the speaker discusses the possibility of saving the monetary system and its impact on society. They also highlight the shift from the Industrial Age to the Information Age.

Can the Monetary System be Saved?

  • The speaker believes that there is no chance of saving the monetary system.
  • This prediction will have significant effects on society.

Transition from Industrial Age to Information Age

  • The Industrial Age was characterized by entrepreneurs creating jobs, such as Henry Ford who created millions of jobs.
  • The Information Age empowers individuals and groups like ISIS through technology and social media.
  • Power dynamics have shifted, and traditional arms factories are no longer necessary for exerting power.

New Section

In this section, the speaker explores how power dynamics are changing in today's world due to technological advancements.

The End of Power

  • Mark Zuckerberg, founder of Facebook, recommends reading a book called "The End of Power."
  • This book highlights how power dynamics are shifting in society.
  • Uncertainty surrounds what will happen next and what it means for global powers like America.

New Section

In this section, the speaker discusses potential solutions and strategies for navigating uncertain times.

Looking at the Bigger Picture

  • It is essential to consider both positive and negative outcomes when facing uncertainty.
  • Preparation is crucial for whatever comes next.
  • Many people fail to adapt because they do not update their knowledge or skills.

New Section

In this section, the speaker challenges conventional financial advice and questions traditional investment strategies.

Obsolete Financial Ideas

  • Traditional financial advice includes going to school, getting a job, saving money, getting out of debt, and investing in long-term stock market investments.
  • The speaker questions the effectiveness of these strategies in today's economic landscape.
  • Printing trillions of dollars and high-frequency trading impact the value of money and stock market investments.

New Section

In this section, the speaker shares their personal experience and insights on using debt and taxes to build wealth.

Leveraging Debt and Taxes

  • The speaker learned from Bucky Fuller that it is essential to look at the big picture and understand how debt and taxes can be used strategically.
  • Doctors and lawyers may earn more money but end up with less take-home pay due to higher tax rates.
  • As an entrepreneur, the speaker has more control over their income and tax liabilities.
  • Investing in real estate allows for leveraging debt to increase wealth.

New Section

In this section, the speaker challenges traditional financial advice further by discussing their approach to debt and taxes.

Rethinking Financial Strategies

  • Saving money becomes less effective when trillions of dollars are being printed.
  • Investing in the stock market for the long term may not yield desired results due to factors like high-frequency trading.
  • The speaker emphasizes looking at alternative strategies such as investing in real estate instead of saving cash or relying solely on banking systems.

New Section

In this section, the speaker shares their personal experience with utilizing debt as a tool for financial success.

Second Chance: Opposite Approach

  • Instead of getting out of debt, the speaker refinanced $300 million in debt at a lower interest rate, resulting in increased monthly income.
  • While some experts advise getting out of debt, the speaker advocates learning how to use it strategically.
  • Debt and taxes play a significant role in wealth accumulation.

New Section

In this section, the speaker highlights the impact of debt and taxes on different socioeconomic classes.

Debt and Taxes: Rich vs. Middle Class

  • Debt and taxes contribute to the wealth disparity between the rich and middle class.
  • Doctors and professionals may earn more money but end up with less take-home pay due to higher tax rates.
  • The speaker emphasizes that as an entrepreneur, they can keep a larger portion of their earnings by utilizing strategic financial strategies.

New Section

In this section, the speaker discusses how historical examples demonstrate the consequences of printing money.

Historical Perspective on Printing Money

  • Throughout history, countries that printed money corrupted their monetary systems, leading to the collapse of empires.
  • The Romans attempted this practice known as "debasing the currency."
  • This historical context serves as a cautionary tale for current economic practices.

The History of Money Debasement

This section discusses the historical instances of governments debasing or printing money, such as the Romans, Zimbabwe, Germany, Milosevic, and China. It highlights the pattern that whenever money is printed excessively, it leads to negative consequences.

Governments' History of Money Debasement

  • Governments throughout history have debased or printed their money.
  • Examples include the Romans, Zimbabwe, Germany, Milosevic, and China.
  • Printing money has consistently led to negative outcomes.

Lack of Understanding History Leads to Money Printing

This section emphasizes that people continue to print money because they lack an understanding of history. Politicians and voters often do not comprehend the consequences of debasing currency. The education system fails to teach these important lessons.

Lack of Historical Understanding

  • People continue to print money due to a lack of historical knowledge.
  • Politicians and voters often do not understand the consequences.
  • The education system fails to teach these lessons effectively.

Inadequacy of Economics Education in Schools

This section highlights the inadequacy of economics education in schools. The speaker shares personal experience with dropping out from an MBA program due to disagreements with an economics professor. He argues that what is taught in school is watered down and not applicable in the real world.

Problems with Economics Education

  • Economics education in schools is inadequate.
  • Personal experience with dropping out from an MBA program due to disagreements with an economics professor.
  • What is taught in school is watered down and not applicable in the real world.

Discrepancy in Unemployment Figures

This section discusses the discrepancy between official unemployment figures provided by politicians and alternative figures presented by economists like John Williams. It highlights the importance of questioning and seeking alternative perspectives.

Discrepancy in Unemployment Figures

  • Official unemployment figures provided by politicians may not reflect the reality.
  • Economist John Williams presents alternative figures, suggesting a higher unemployment rate.
  • Questioning and seeking alternative perspectives is crucial.

The Need for Financial Education

This section emphasizes the importance of financial education and highlights the speaker's motivation for writing his book. It discusses how wealth can be stolen through misinformation and the misconception that a house is an asset.

Importance of Financial Education

  • Financial education is essential to avoid being misled.
  • Wealth can be stolen through misinformation.
  • The misconception that a house is an asset needs to be addressed.

Preventing Economic Collapse

This section addresses whether anything can be done to prevent economic collapse. The speaker suggests that when something goes down, something else comes up, indicating that there are potential solutions or alternatives to mitigate collapse.

Potential Solutions to Prevent Collapse

  • When something goes down, something else comes up.
  • There are potential solutions or alternatives to prevent economic collapse.

Video Recommendation: "The Man Who Could See the Future"

This section promotes a video titled "The Man Who Could See the Future" available on richdad.com. The video discusses Bucky Fuller and encourages viewers to watch it for more insights and details.

Video Recommendation: "The Man Who Could See the Future"

  • A video titled "The Man Who Could See the Future" is recommended.
  • Available on richdad.com with English subtitles.
  • Encourages viewers to watch for more insights and details.

Promoting Discussion Through Videos

This section explains why videos are preferred over books as a means of communication. The speaker encourages viewers to watch the recommended video and engage in discussions with friends to better understand the concepts presented.

Promoting Discussion Through Videos

  • Videos are preferred for communication over books.
  • Encourages viewers to watch the recommended video and discuss it with friends.
  • Engaging in discussions helps in understanding the concepts better.

The Obsolescence of Education

This section discusses how education can become obsolete due to rapid changes in information and technology. The speaker emphasizes the importance of staying updated and avoiding obsolete ideas for achieving success.

Obsolescence of Education

  • Education becomes obsolete due to rapid changes in information and technology.
  • Staying updated is crucial for success.
  • Obsolete ideas lead to obsolete results.

Alternative Approach: Getting Rid of School

This section explores a hypothetical scenario where schools are eliminated entirely. The speaker argues that education is still important, but traditional schooling may need to be reevaluated due to its inability to keep up with changing times.

Alternative Approach: Eliminating Schools

  • Education remains important even if traditional schooling is eliminated.
  • Traditional schooling may need reevaluation due to its inability to adapt quickly enough.

Moore's Law and Obsolete Ideas

This section discusses Moore's Law, which states that information doubles every 18 months, leading to the obsolescence of ideas. The speaker highlights how outdated ideas yield outdated results, emphasizing the need for continuous learning and adaptation.

Moore's Law and Obsolete Ideas

  • Moore's Law states that information doubles every 18 months, rendering ideas obsolete.
  • Outdated ideas lead to outdated results.
  • Continuous learning and adaptation are necessary for success.

Wealth Being Stolen through Money Printing

This section explains how wealth is being stolen through the money we work for. The speaker highlights the shift from gold-backed currency to debt-based money and its implications on saving and investing.

Wealth Being Stolen through Money Printing

  • Wealth is being stolen through the money people work for.
  • Shift from gold-backed currency to debt-based money.
  • Saving and investing are affected by this change.

The Decline of Savings and Cash

This section discusses how savings have declined due to excessive money printing. The speaker points out that banks now charge interest on savings, indicating a lack of demand for cash. This leads to asset bubbles in stocks and real estate.

Decline of Savings and Cash

  • Savings have declined due to excessive money printing.
  • Banks charge interest on savings, discouraging saving.
  • Asset bubbles in stocks and real estate result from excess cash in circulation.

The Impact of Inflation and Taxes

This section discusses the crushing impact of inflation and taxes on individuals. The author mentions that this book was written approximately 20 years earlier, but now he can speak more openly about his experiences.

The Burden of Inflation and Taxes

  • Inflation and taxes are having a detrimental effect on people's financial well-being.
  • The author wrote this book as a second chance to address these issues.
  • There is a discussion about which came first, the chicken or the egg, in terms of economic challenges.

Lack of Transparency in Government Reporting

This section focuses on the lack of transparency in government reporting, particularly regarding voting and unemployment rates.

Misinformation from the Government

  • The government often provides misleading information about voting and unemployment rates.
  • The author questions whether American voters have access to accurate information when making decisions.
  • He highlights how money plays a significant role in elections through super PACs and corporate influence.

Influence of Unions and Corporations

This section explores the influence of unions and corporations on politics and the economy.

Power Dynamics between Unions and Corporations

  • Unions aim to get their preferred candidates elected while corporations prioritize their own interests.
  • Super PACs play a significant role in elections, diminishing the impact of individual votes.
  • Major corporations control much of today's economy, while unions have influence over the education system.

Understanding Economic Control

This section delves into who controls the economy today and highlights misconceptions about certain companies' national identity.

Realities of Economic Control

  • People often mistakenly believe that major corporations like Apple are purely American companies when they operate globally.
  • Many entrepreneurs focus solely on making money without understanding the broader economic landscape.
  • The author emphasizes the importance of financial education for aspiring entrepreneurs.

Tax Breaks and Subsidies

This section discusses tax breaks, subsidies, and their impact on entrepreneurs and the economy.

Tax Breaks and Subsidies

  • Entrepreneurs like Elon Musk take advantage of tax breaks and incentives to grow their businesses.
  • Governments provide subsidies to attract investments and create job opportunities.
  • The author acknowledges that tax breaks benefit him personally but highlights the larger economic implications.

The Role of Entrepreneurs

This section explores the role of entrepreneurs in job creation and investment.

Importance of Entrepreneurs

  • Entrepreneurs play a crucial role in providing jobs and driving investment.
  • However, many small business owners are not true entrepreneurs but rather self-employed individuals with high tax burdens.
  • Financial education is essential for understanding the dynamics of entrepreneurship.

Becoming Rich: A Possibility for All?

This section addresses whether anyone can become wealthy.

Attitudes towards Wealth

  • The author believes that anyone has the potential to become rich.
  • He explains that everyone possesses elements of poverty, middle class, and wealth within themselves.
  • Traditional education often neglects teaching individuals how to build wealth.

Different Mindsets towards Money

This section contrasts different mindsets regarding money and financial success.

Mindsets towards Money

  • The poor seek bargains and discounts, while the middle class values security through steady paychecks.
  • The rich have a different mindset focused on building wealth rather than relying on employment income.
  • Financial education is crucial for shifting one's mindset towards wealth creation.

Understanding Taxes: A Case Study

This section provides a case study on taxes using the author's doctor as an example.

Taxation and Financial Education

  • The author's doctor, despite earning a significant income, paid only $750 in taxes.
  • Lack of financial education leads to confusion and missed opportunities for tax optimization.
  • The importance of understanding the tax system is emphasized.

Can Anyone Become Rich?

This section explores the possibility of achieving wealth.

Potential for Wealth Creation

  • The author believes that anyone can become rich with the right mindset and financial education.
  • He acknowledges that everyone has elements of poverty, middle class, and wealth within themselves.
  • Building wealth requires breaking free from traditional employment mindsets.

Real Entrepreneurs and Job Creation

This section highlights the role of entrepreneurs in job creation through investment.

Entrepreneurship and Job Creation

  • Real entrepreneurs create jobs by investing in new ventures.
  • Governments provide incentives such as tax subsidies to attract entrepreneurs and stimulate economic growth.
  • Financial literacy is crucial for distinguishing between self-employed individuals and true entrepreneurs.

The Importance of Financial Education

This section emphasizes the significance of financial education for aspiring entrepreneurs.

Financial Education Gap

  • Many people lack financial education, even if they have academic qualifications or work hard.
  • A lack of financial knowledge hinders individuals from optimizing their finances and minimizing tax burdens.
  • The author's conversations with his doctor highlight the need for greater financial education.

Becoming Rich: Mindset Shift Required

This section discusses how shifting one's mindset is essential to achieve wealth.

Shifting Mindsets towards Wealth

  • Overcoming poverty or middle-class mentalities requires adopting a wealthy mindset focused on building assets.
  • Traditional education often fails to teach individuals how to create wealth.
  • The importance of financial education is reiterated.

Can Anyone Become Rich? (Continued)

This section continues the discussion on the possibility of achieving wealth.

Potential for Wealth Creation

  • The author believes that anyone can become rich with the right mindset and financial education.
  • Personal experiences and examples are used to illustrate the potential for wealth creation.
  • Overcoming societal conditioning is necessary to pursue financial independence.

The Desire for Financial Security

This section explores different mindsets towards money, including a desire for financial security.

Mindsets towards Money

  • People have different mindsets when it comes to money, including a desire for financial security.
  • The author highlights his own tendencies as an example.
  • Financial education helps individuals make informed decisions about their finances.

Shifting Mindsets towards Wealth

This section emphasizes the need to shift mindsets from seeking security to pursuing wealth creation.

Changing Perspectives on Wealth

  • Many people prioritize job security and steady paychecks over building wealth.
  • Traditional education reinforces this mindset rather than encouraging wealth creation.
  • Financial education plays a crucial role in shifting perspectives towards building assets.

The Impact of Paychecks on Mindset

This section discusses how paychecks can shape one's mindset and financial outlook.

Influence of Paychecks

  • Relying solely on paychecks perpetuates a limited perspective on income generation.
  • The author's rich dad refused to pay him a salary, emphasizing the limitations of employment income.
  • Building assets and creating alternative income streams are essential for long-term financial success.

Desire and Mindset of an Entrepreneur

In this section, the speaker discusses the mindset and skill sets required for entrepreneurship. They emphasize that small businesses operate under different rules than big businesses, and express their belief that a true entrepreneur will find a way to succeed regardless of external factors.

The Different Rules for Small Business

  • Small businesses do not operate under the same rules as big businesses.
  • The direction America is currently heading may be driving some entrepreneurs out of the country.
  • Entrepreneurs have the ability to adapt and reinvent themselves in response to changing rules and regulations.

Entrepreneurship as a Mindset

  • A real entrepreneur has a mindset that transcends geographical boundaries.
  • An example is given of a French entrepreneur who faced high taxes in France but found ways to continue his business in California by adapting his shipping methods.

Education and Mindset

  • The speaker suggests that mindsets can be taught through education.
  • Having desire and opportunity are key factors in becoming an entrepreneur.

The Power of Willpower

In this section, the speaker discusses the concept of willpower and its importance for entrepreneurs. They explain how having an internal focus on personal economy can help overcome challenges and see opportunities even in difficult times.

Willpower as Entrepreneurial Spirit

  • Willpower is also referred to as entrepreneurial spirit.
  • There is no such thing as a bad economy; it depends on one's internal economy.
  • Poor individuals with poor personal economies tend to see only a bad economy, while entrepreneurs focus on finding opportunities regardless of external circumstances.

Internal Focus vs External Focus

  • Entrepreneurs have an internal focus on controlling their own mindset and actions.
  • They view setbacks as opportunities for growth, while others may become discouraged or seek external solutions like medication or job security.

Encouraging Entrepreneurship

In this section, the speaker talks about their current project of traveling and encouraging people to consider entrepreneurship. They emphasize the importance of mindset and offer words of encouragement.

Promoting Entrepreneurship

  • The speaker is currently traveling with a group to promote entrepreneurship.
  • They encourage individuals to consider becoming entrepreneurs and highlight the importance of mindset in achieving success.

Final Thoughts

  • The speaker concludes by stating that everyone has the potential to become an entrepreneur, but it requires desire, opportunity, and a strong internal focus.
  • They emphasize that having an entrepreneurial mindset can lead to personal growth, resilience, and happiness.

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New Section

In this section, the speaker discusses their experience in Puerto Rico and how they became an entrepreneur after receiving a bonus check. They also talk about the importance of failure and character development in entrepreneurship.

Becoming an Entrepreneur

  • The speaker was working for Xerox in Puerto Rico when their boss gave them a bonus check of around $30,000.
  • Another person named John tells the speaker that they will fail and come back, but the speaker disagrees and vows to never fail or return.
  • The speaker emphasizes that becoming an entrepreneur is a test of character and encourages taking risks when there is no safety net.
  • Being an entrepreneur without a regular paycheck makes one hungrier and smarter, leading to personal growth.
  • Leadership and communication skills are more important than a law degree for entrepreneurs.

New Section

In this section, the speaker talks about their military background and how it shaped their leadership skills. They also discuss the importance of teamwork in their company.

Military Experience and Leadership

  • The speaker mentions having attended the Military Academy where they learned leadership from day one.
  • After returning from Vietnam, the speaker faced challenges working for Xerox due to corporate restrictions on language use.
  • The military taught valuable leadership skills such as listening, not taking things personally, and getting the job done.
  • Military veterans have essential leadership skills needed for entrepreneurship.
  • Leaving behind comrades in arms was one of the hardest parts of leaving the military.
  • The speaker emphasizes the importance of teamwork and a sense of camaraderie in their company, where everyone has a voice.

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In this section, the speaker discusses the impact of their books on financial education and mindset shift. They also recommend reading their books and watching an accompanying video for further learning.

Financial Education and Mindset Shift

  • The speaker mentions their book "Cashflow Quadrant" and how it has influenced people's mindset about money.
  • They share an anecdote about a family playing the Cashflow Quadrant game with young children, highlighting the potential for mindset development at an early age.
  • Taking a paycheck makes one an employee, so it is important to have control over one's finances.
  • The speaker expresses gratitude for the opportunity to have this conversation with entrepreneurs and recommends reading their books for further insights.
  • They encourage viewers to watch a 60-minute video available on Rich Dad's website for additional financial education.

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