Velocity over everything: How Ramp became the fastest-growing SaaS startup ever | Geoff Charles

Velocity over everything: How Ramp became the fastest-growing SaaS startup ever | Geoff Charles

Introduction and Company Growth

In this section, the speaker discusses the growth of the company and its achievements.

  • The company started with around 10 employees, including 8 engineers.
  • Within three months, they built a competitor to MX, and within six months, they built a competitor to Expensify.
  • The company reached 100 million in annual revenue with less than 50 total employees.

Expansion into Accounts Payable

This section focuses on the expansion of the company into accounts payable.

  • Initially, there were three engineers, one designer, and one PM working on accounts payable.
  • The team successfully developed a product that is now generating billions of dollars annually.

Introduction to Jeff Charles from Ramp

This section introduces Jeff Charles as the guest for the podcast episode.

  • Jeff Charles is the VP of Product at Ramp.
  • Ramp is currently the fastest-growing SaaS business in history, reaching over $100 million in annual run rate in just two years.

Approach to Product Development at Ramp

This section highlights Ramp's approach to product development and their focus on speed and empowerment.

  • Ramp emphasizes moving quickly and thinking from first principles.
  • They empower individual team members to contribute effectively.
  • Despite having only 50 employees, they have achieved significant success.

Operationalizing Culture of Velocity

In this section, Jeff shares insights into how Ramp operationalizes a culture of velocity.

  • They achieve a lot with few people by optimizing processes and empowering individuals.
  • Planning is organized efficiently to ensure productivity.
  • Strategy is well-defined and communicated to the team.
  • They maintain a high bar for talent during the product manager interview process.
  • They prioritize avoiding burnout in their fast-paced culture.

Recommendation to Study Ramp's Operations

This section encourages listeners to study Ramp's operations due to their success and unique approach.

  • There is much to learn from Ramp's success and their product development approach.
  • Their focus on velocity, empowerment, and efficiency can provide valuable insights.

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  • The speaker shares personal experience with using Ezra for cancer screening.
  • Early cancer detection has a higher survival rate compared to late-stage detection.
  • Ezra offers non-invasive and radiation-free scans for early detection of various conditions.

Personal Experience with Ezra Cancer Screening

The speaker shares personal experience with using Ezra for cancer screening.

  • The speaker booked an appointment with Ezra and underwent a full-body MRI scan.
  • A detailed report was provided, highlighting any potential issues found in the body.
  • The speaker had an unremarkable screening but discovered some back issues that will be further examined.

Importance of Early Cancer Detection

This section emphasizes the importance of early cancer detection.

  • Half of all men and one-third of women will have cancer at some point in their lives.
  • Early detection significantly improves survival rates compared to late-stage diagnosis.
  • Ezra has helped customers identify potential cancers early and other clinically significant issues through their scans.

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This section features an advertisement for Coda, a productivity tool.

  • The speaker shares personal experience with using Coda to streamline workflows.
  • Coda offers templates for various product management processes.
  • It centralizes data and eliminates roadblocks in team collaboration.

How Coda Helps Product Teams

This section highlights how Coda helps product teams operate more efficiently.

  • The speaker uses Coda daily for various tasks, including managing newsletters and coordinating sponsors.
  • Within a post about CODA's product team operations, they shared templates used internally.
  • These templates cover roadmap management, OKR processes, internal feedback, and overall product development.

Introduction to Jeff Charles from Ramp

This section introduces Jeff Charles as the guest for the podcast episode.

  • Jeff Charles is the head of product at Ramp.
  • Ramp provides finance automation and corporate card solutions for small to medium-sized businesses.
  • They help automate expense management, card payments, bill payments, and accounting processes.

Ramp's Impact on Businesses

This section discusses how Ramp has helped businesses automate their back-office operations.

  • Ramp has assisted around 15,000 businesses in automating their back-office tasks.
  • By streamlining these processes, companies can focus on growing their core business activities.

Company Growth and Revenue

The speaker discusses the rapid growth of their fintech and SaaS company, reaching $100 million in annual revenue within the first two years. They also mention a daily influx of around 1,000 new users and hitting $600 million in savings for customers through spend control and automation.

  • The company experienced significant growth as one of the fastest-growing fintech and SaaS companies.
  • Achieved $100 million in annual revenue within the first two years.
  • Continues to grow steadily with approximately 1,000 new users joining daily.
  • Reached $600 million in savings for customers through spend control and automation.

Ramp's Rapid Growth

The speaker highlights Ramp's reputation as the fastest-growing SAS business in history, reaching a run rate of $200 million. This has generated substantial interest in how Ramp operates and approaches product development.

  • Ramp is known as the fastest-growing SAS business in history.
  • Achieved a run rate of $200 million at an impressive pace.
  • There is significant interest in understanding how Ramp operates due to its exceptional growth.

Importance of Velocity at Ramp

Velocity plays a crucial role at Ramp, influencing various aspects such as product development, team incentives, hiring decisions, promotions, decision-making processes, and organizational structure. The focus on velocity stems from starting with a small team during the pandemic while facing a vast market opportunity.

  • Velocity is essential at Ramp across all aspects of operations.
  • It influences product development processes, team incentives, hiring decisions, promotions, decision-making processes, and organizational structure.
  • Starting with a small team during the pandemic led to prioritizing execution speed over choosing specific paths.
  • High velocity allows teams to iterate and achieve impact over time.
  • Velocity attracts top talent who are interested in joining a company that ships products quickly.

Ramp's Exceptional Speed

Ramp's speed is not just a claim but a reality. The speaker emphasizes that Ramp's velocity surpasses other companies' claims of moving fast. They provide examples of building competitors to MX and Expensify within months, achieving $100 million in annual revenue with a small team, and expanding into accounts payable with remarkable efficiency.

  • Ramp's speed sets it apart from other companies claiming to move fast.
  • Examples include building competitors to MX and Expensify within months.
  • Achieved $100 million in annual revenue with a small team.
  • Efficiently expanded into accounts payable by building competitive products with limited resources.

Recipe for Success at Ramp

The speaker outlines the recipe for success at Ramp, which involves forming small, single-threaded teams with clear goals, providing necessary resources, setting tight timelines, shielding them from organizational chaos until product-market fit is achieved, and then scaling up resources accordingly.

  • Small teams with single-threaded focus and clear goals.
  • Provide necessary resources for execution.
  • Set tight timelines for goal achievement.
  • Shield teams from organizational chaos until product-market fit is attained.
  • Scale up resources once early traction is established.

Factors Enabling Fast Movement at Ramp

The speaker discusses additional factors contributing to fast movement at Ramp, including shielding teams from distractions, attracting talent through rapid product development and shipping cycles, simplifying decision-making processes due to low-cost decisions, and maintaining a strong focus on velocity as an ongoing priority.

  • Shielding teams from distractions enables faster movement.
  • Rapid product development and shipping cycles attract top talent.
  • Low-cost decisions simplify decision-making processes.
  • Velocity remains a constant priority for the company.

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Focusing on Single-Threaded Goals

The importance of having a single-threaded goal and removing distractions to achieve it.

Removing Distractions for Single-Threaded Goals

  • To achieve a single-threaded goal, it is necessary to remove any other tasks or responsibilities that may distract the team.
  • Examples include dedicating a separate room in the office solely for the team working on the goal.
  • An example of a single-threaded team is one that was focused on launching a flex product for e-commerce companies, with no other responsibilities.

Avoiding Distractions as a Leader

  • Leaders need to shield teams from distractions and prioritize their single-threaded goals.
  • Assign individuals to protect teams from issues like bugs or escalations.
  • Have layers of protective tissue around core teams, such as rotational programs and product operators.

Balancing Ambitious Goals

Finding the balance between ambitious goals and realistic achievability.

Motivation through Market Comparables and Designs

  • Market comparables, such as successful publicly traded companies in similar domains, can motivate teams by de-risking business decisions.
  • Creating new markets can also be motivating, as it presents an opportunity to drive revenue.
  • Using designs and prototypes to visualize future possibilities can keep teams motivated and anchored.

Achieving Ambitious Goals

  • Constantly push boundaries while considering what can realistically be achieved.
  • Having clear revenue goals combined with market opportunities allows for fast progress.

Empowering Product Teams

Empowering product teams by giving them control over their operations and decision-making.

Context Over Control Approach

  • Emphasize context over control when empowering product teams.
  • Cultural difference at Ramp was that the CTO was hands-off in actual product decisions due to alignment on goals.
  • Alignment on goals and hypotheses is crucial for empowering teams.

Operationalizing Empowerment

Making empowerment work by operationalizing it effectively.

Alignment on Goals

  • Start with alignment on the goal that the team is working towards.
  • Clearly define the hypothesis and desired outcome.

Providing Context and Support

  • Provide teams with the necessary context to make informed decisions.
  • Offer support and guidance when needed, without micromanaging.

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New Section

In this section, the speaker discusses the importance of debating and interpreting data, hypotheses, and goals in order to make better decisions. They also highlight the need for aligning teams and empowering them to come up with solutions.

Debating Interpretation of Data, Hypotheses, and Goals

  • The speaker emphasizes the need to debate and interpret data, hypotheses, and goals.
  • By focusing on these aspects, teams can gain a better understanding of what is truly happening.
  • Prescriptive solutions without proper alignment on goals can lead to problems.

New Section

This section explores the speaker's experience with being prescriptive versus empowering their team. It highlights the importance of aligning on strategy, hypotheses, and data points.

Empowering Teams and Providing Context

  • The speaker reflects on their past experiences at ramp where they were more prescriptive.
  • They realized that empowering teams to come up with solutions based on strategy and aligned goals yields better results.
  • The speaker's role now involves providing context to help teams focus on the right goals, hypotheses, and data points.

New Section

Here, the speaker discusses their current role in giving context to teams so they can make better decisions. They mention spending time repeating themselves and sharing missing context.

Giving Context for Better Decision-Making

  • The speaker spends most of their time repeating themselves and sharing missing context with teams.
  • Their responsibility is to represent certain groups or meetings that team members are not part of.
  • By providing context, they aim to help teams make better decisions over time.

New Section

This section explores the role of a leader in reminding people of strategy and vision. The speaker emphasizes the importance of empowering teams to move fast and scale effectively.

Leader as a Repeater in Chief

  • A leader's job is to remind people of strategy, vision, and important aspects.
  • Empowering teams to move fast is crucial for scalability.
  • Trust is built over time, leading to contracts between leaders and teams on strategy and roadmap alignment.

New Section

Here, the speaker discusses the differences between their previous work and their current role at ramp. They highlight how they empower their team and provide feedback.

Empowering Teams at Ramp

  • At ramp, the speaker's contract with the team revolves around strategy and roadmap alignment.
  • Their goal is to give context for execution and coach teams based on firsthand data.
  • Trust is built over time, allowing for more autonomy within the team.

New Section

In this section, the speaker explains their approach to goal-setting, one-on-one meetings, and team-wide meetings. They emphasize providing context and aligning on what's most important.

Goal Setting and Meetings

  • The speaker has their directs post goals every week for review by each other.
  • One-on-one meetings focus on individual needs while bi-weekly team-wide meetings share missing context.
  • The product experience involves structured design reviews with specific feedback requests.

New Section

This section delves into how the product experience is managed at ramp. It highlights design reviews, risk highlighting, and decision-making processes.

Managing Product Experience

  • Design iterations are not heavily involved in the speaker's role at ramp.
  • The speaker provides feedback during structured design reviews, focusing on key risks and trade-offs.
  • The product is iterated upon, with the speaker's involvement increasing during the transition from beta to general availability.

New Section

Here, the speaker discusses their role in stress testing hypotheses and decisions. They highlight the importance of moving fast and being able to make adjustments if needed.

Stress Testing Hypotheses and Decisions

  • The speaker's role involves stress testing hypotheses and decisions before going live to customers.
  • Moving fast allows for quick adjustments if necessary.
  • While there may be some risk involved, it is mitigated by the ability to course-correct efficiently.

New Section

This section mentions a conversation with an expert on developer productivity. It highlights how quality can improve as product velocity increases due to faster iterations and quicker fixes.

Quality Improvement with Increased Velocity

  • Research shows that quality can improve as product velocity increases.
  • Faster iterations allow for quicker fixes and adjustments.
  • The ability to get things out quickly reduces waiting time for improvements.

Voice of Customer Processes

The speaker discusses the voice of customer processes implemented in their business, such as sharing negative reviews with the tech lead, PM, and designer on a monthly basis. They also mention reporting NPS and CSAT scores and tracking operational overhead.

Voice of Customer Processes

  • Negative reviews are shared with the tech lead, PM, and designer on a monthly basis.
  • NPS (Net Promoter Score) and CSAT (Customer Satisfaction) scores are reported.
  • Operational overhead is tracked to maintain a low burden.

Bug Assignment and Velocity

The speaker explains how bugs and issues are directly assigned to the engineer on call to ensure they feel the pain and can leverage velocity to solve problems. They also discuss the balance between bug fixing and achieving team goals.

Bug Assignment and Velocity

  • Bugs and issues are directly assigned to the engineer on call.
  • Leveraging velocity helps solve problems efficiently.
  • Balancing bug fixing with team goals is important.

Prioritizing User Experience Improvements

The speaker emphasizes the importance of user experience improvements by tracking support tickets caused by customer confusion. They mention that if this number is elevated, new features cannot be shipped until these issues are fixed.

Prioritizing User Experience Improvements

  • Support tickets caused by customer confusion are tracked as a metric for user experience improvements.
  • Elevated numbers of support tickets due to confusion require fixing before shipping new features.

Standardizing Metrics and Controls

The speaker discusses the importance of standardizing metrics and controls across teams. They mention metrics such as operational burden, CSAT, NPS, and customer confusion. If these metrics are below the desired level, new features cannot be shipped.

Standardizing Metrics and Controls

  • Metrics such as operational burden, CSAT, NPS, and customer confusion should be maintained at a certain level.
  • Teams need to standardize their metrics to ensure they meet the required levels.
  • Failure to meet these metrics may result in the inability to ship new features.

Pressure on Product Managers for Velocity

The speaker shares an anecdote about a post on ramp building products that created pressure on product managers to prioritize velocity. They express concern about adding additional pressure on already stressed product managers.

Pressure on Product Managers for Velocity

  • Anecdote about a post creating pressure on product managers to prioritize velocity.
  • Concern expressed regarding additional pressure on already stressed product managers.

Advice for Product Managers

The speaker provides advice for product managers who are pushed by leaders to move faster based on ramp's operating model.

Advice for Product Managers

  • Ensure there is top-down investment in research and development (R&D) and hiring the best talent in engineering and design.
  • Create a culture of empowerment where engineers have more say in product decisions than the CEO does.
  • Minimize meetings and status updates to avoid demotivating teams. Focus meetings on collaboration, ideation, decision-making, etc.
  • Be clear and prioritize goals to avoid spreading resources too thin.

The transcript is already in English, so the response is also in English.

Communicating Trade-offs to Executives

The speaker emphasizes the importance of effectively communicating trade-offs to executives, even if it may seem like pushing back. This helps increase velocity and avoid misunderstandings.

Importance of Communicating Trade-offs

  • Executives often lack awareness of trade-offs due to fear of pushback.
  • Effective communication of trade-offs increases velocity.
  • Traditional industry leaders may struggle with uncomfortable trade-offs.

Positive Feedback and Motivation

  • Leaders' positive comments on random projects and design critiques motivate the team.
  • Founders' involvement in projects creates excitement among engineers.
  • Engineers are highly motivated by recognition from leaders.

Avoiding Burnout and Sustaining Velocity

The speaker discusses how to avoid burnout when working at a fast pace and sustaining high velocity. They emphasize the importance of meaningful work, flow state, and alignment with goals.

Avoiding Burnout through Velocity

  • Working hard does not necessarily lead to burnout; it's about impact and satisfaction.
  • Burnout can occur when efforts do not result in progress or meaningful outcomes.
  • Velocity can potentially prevent burnout by focusing on what truly matters.

Flow State and Sustainable Work

  • Flow state and cadence make work easier and more thrilling.
  • Organizations should minimize distractions, meetings, and cross-functional demands.
  • Loving what you do reduces the feeling of work being a chore.

Meaningful Work as a Key Factor

  • Meaningful work is essential for avoiding burnout.
  • Alignment with personal goals is crucial, not just alignment with bosses' goals.
  • Management plays a role in making employees feel ownership over their work.

Balancing Planning vs. Action

The speaker discusses the balance between planning and taking action. They highlight the importance of not spending excessive time on planning while maintaining a sense of order.

Importance of Minimal Planning

  • Not spending excessive time on planning is emphasized.
  • Excessive planning can lead to chaos and hinder progress.

Finding the Balance

  • Striking a balance between planning and action is crucial.
  • Maintaining a sense of order while avoiding excessive planning is key.

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Expectations and Innovation

The speaker discusses the importance of being adaptable and constantly on your toes when working with demo instances. This expectation is welcomed by people as it allows for innovation and providing value to customers.

Constant Adaptability

  • Loading up a demo instance requires constant vigilance and adaptability.
  • Being on your toes is an expectation in order to move forward, innovate, and provide value to customers.

Balancing Accuracy and Value

  • Accuracy in planning should be focused on areas that have high value.
  • Large market moments where marketing and sales coordinate are examples of high-value accuracy.
  • These moments occur once a quarter or every six months, making them a low percentage of total focus for research and development (R&D).

Autonomy within Chaos

  • Each team can be somewhat autonomous within their pod, even if it appears chaotic from the outside.
  • It is crucial to be accurate on matters that truly matter while not needing excessive accuracy on specific feature release dates.
  • Prioritizing velocity over accuracy allows for more efficient use of time.

Embracing Chaos as a Sign of Growth

The speaker emphasizes the positive aspects of chaos in a growing company. They share insights from Cheryl Sandberg's perspective on change and growth at Airbnb. Consistency in goals, vision, problem-solving approach, and product delivery speaks volumes about velocity.

Chaotic Nature of Successful Startups

  • Successful startups often experience chaos due to constant changes, reorganizations, team shifts, and adjusting priorities.
  • This chaos signifies growth and hyper-growth rather than instability.
  • Cheryl Sandberg highlights that going through such changes indicates progress compared to stagnation.

Strategy Alignment and Consistency

The speaker delves into the concept of strategy alignment within teams. They discuss the importance of setting clear goals, maintaining consistency in vision and problem-solving approach, and avoiding constant changes in leadership decisions.

Defining Strategy

  • Strategy involves aligning on goals, understanding why certain approaches will work, defining metrics for measuring success, discussing initiatives and risks, and considering long-term outcomes.
  • It lies between a roadmap and a vision.

Consistency as a Key Element

  • Consistency is crucial in strategy to avoid confusion or feeling like working at a different company.
  • The speaker's company has been consistent from the start regarding its spam management platform's goals, value proposition, problem-solving approach, and vision.
  • Most products developed have reached customers' hands without major disruptions or changes.

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Understanding Strategy

The speaker further explores the concept of strategy by explaining its purpose in achieving goals. They emphasize that strategy is not just a roadmap or vision but lies somewhere in between.

Purpose of Strategy

  • Strategy serves as a means to reach desired goals effectively.
  • It involves aligning on goals, identifying unique advantages as a company, determining relevant metrics for measuring success, discussing initiatives and risks, and considering long-term outcomes.

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Aligning Product Strategy with Financial Strategy

In this section, the speaker discusses the importance of aligning high-level product strategy and financial strategy. They also emphasize the need to create a culture of empowerment within teams.

Creating Alignment and Empowerment

  • It is crucial to align product strategy with long-term goals and financial strategy.
  • This alignment helps create a culture of empowerment within teams.
  • Leaders should encourage teams to think like them, which increases leverage over time.
  • By focusing on alignment, leaders can explore new ways of operating.

Planning Approaches and Iterations

The speaker talks about their planning approach and how it has evolved over time. They discuss the challenges faced during quarterly planning and the shift towards a more streamlined bi-annual planning process.

Evolving Planning Approach

  • Initially, OKRs with financial goals were used for different teams but led to lengthy planning processes.
  • Quarterly planning became political and time-consuming, leading to a shift in approach.
  • The company now follows a bi-annual one-pager approach for company priorities, making planning smoother and faster.
  • A strong financial plan is executed upon, with each aspect having an owner (e.g., marketing for product-led initiatives).

Uniquely Positioned to Win: Example of Bill Payments

The speaker explains the concept of being uniquely positioned to win in a specific area. They provide an example related to bill payments as an expansion of their corporate card platform.

Leveraging Unique Positioning

  • Reusing components already built increases velocity and impact.
  • The decision to expand into bill payments was driven by similarities between bills as invoices to companies and expenses as invoices to employees.
  • Existing capabilities in money movement, liability processing, integration with accounting systems, risk management, and user base made them uniquely positioned to enter the bill payments space.
  • Focusing on areas where a company has a right to win increases velocity and leverages existing expertise.

Approach to OKRs

The speaker shares their perspective on OKRs (Objectives and Key Results) and how they approach them in their planning process.

Perspective on OKRs

  • The speaker largely stays away from using OKRs from a product perspective.
  • They prioritize strategy, financial planning, and roadmap over OKRs for product-related initiatives.
  • OKRs are more suitable for cross-functional goals and measuring objectives with metrics.
  • The speaker emphasizes that OKRs are just one method among many to measure objectives.

Balancing Metrics with the Bigger Picture

The speaker discusses the balance between focusing on metrics and not losing sight of the bigger picture. They express skepticism towards the obsession with metrics without considering the overall goals.

Balancing Metrics and Goals

  • There is a concern about becoming too obsessed with specific metrics without considering the broader objectives.
  • While goals and metrics are important, it is crucial to maintain focus on the bigger picture.
  • The contract between a company's product roadmap and its strategic goals should be prioritized.

A template of the planning approach mentioned in this conversation can be found in the show notes or post associated with this transcript.

The Importance of Thinking from First Principles

In this section, the speaker discusses the importance of thinking from first principles in the context of ramp's unique business model. They emphasize the need to hire people who can think from first principles and provide an example of how they applied this approach to their support team.

Thinking from First Principles

  • Thinking from first principles is crucial when dealing with something that hasn't been done before.
  • It involves going back to the fundamentals and deeply understanding what needs to be achieved.
  • Hiring people who can think from first principles is essential, even if it means putting aside their past experiences.
  • Avoid pattern matching or relying on past experiences when facing new challenges.

Example: Support Team Approach

  • The support team at ramp operates based on the principle that every support ticket is a failure of their product.
  • By having support report into product, they hold the product team accountable for providing a seamless user experience.
  • They incentivize support team members to decrease the number of tickets over time, focusing on resolving issues at their root cause.
  • Instead of hiring based on industry benchmarks, they hired individuals who deeply understand and listen to customers' needs.

Shifting Product Development Process Based on Engineering Team Skills

In this section, the speaker explains how they had to adapt their product development process at ramp due to having an exceptional engineering team. They highlight the importance of starting from first principles and not blindly applying previous processes.

Adapting Product Development Process

  • The speaker initially planned to apply their best product development process upon joining ramp but had to shift it entirely.
  • The existing process was designed for a B+ engineering team, while ramp had an A+ engineering team.
  • They went back to first principles and reevaluated how products should be developed and built based on their team's capabilities.
  • Emphasizes the need to adapt processes and not simply copy-paste from previous experiences.

Support Team Reporting into Product

In this section, the speaker discusses the unique organizational structure at ramp where the support team reports into the product team. They explain the reasoning behind this decision and how it aligns with their focus on customer satisfaction.

Support Team Reporting Structure

  • The support team reports directly into the product team at ramp.
  • This structure holds the product team accountable for providing a high-quality user experience.
  • Treating every support ticket as a failure of their product helps drive continuous improvement.
  • By deeply understanding and listening to customers' needs, they can provide more value and decrease the number of support tickets over time.

The Power of Writing in Problem Solving

In this section, the speaker highlights the importance of writing as a tool for problem-solving. They discuss how writing helps them crystallize their thoughts and recommend listeners adopt a similar approach.

Writing as Problem-Solving Tool

  • Writing is crucial for solving problems and figuring out one's thoughts.
  • It helps in articulating ideas clearly and finding solutions to complex challenges.
  • The speaker recommends listeners use writing as a way to crystallize their thoughts and remember important information.

Scaling Decision Making and Time Management

In this section, the speaker discusses the challenges of scaling decision making within a company and emphasizes the importance of effective time management for product managers.

Scaling Decision Making

  • Companies often face scalability problems when it comes to decision making.
  • The speaker highlights the need to scale decision making, incentivize teamwork, allocate headcount fairly, and avoid politics.
  • He suggests that reading alone does not necessarily improve thinking skills; instead, writing helps clarify thoughts and enhance communication.
  • Writing also allows for increased brand visibility and attracts better talent over time.
  • The speaker advises blocking out dedicated time for deep thinking before seeking external answers or information.

Advantages of Product Managers

  • Product managers have an advantage in terms of having more time for thinking and planning compared to other roles focused on coding or design.
  • They can dedicate their time to tasks that others may not have the capacity or desire to do.
  • Spending time on deep thinking rather than constant meetings or searching for answers online is crucial.

Time Management Strategies

  • The speaker recommends creating blocks of uninterrupted time for deep work by blocking out specific slots in the calendar.
  • He personally sets aside time at the end of each week to plan ahead and think about important questions.
  • Finding a less busy environment during early mornings, late afternoons, or weekends can be beneficial for deep work sessions.
  • To protect these blocks of time, he has a policy against scheduling meetings during those periods. If urgent matters arise, people can reach him directly via phone.

Staying Organized

  • Given the overwhelming amount of tasks faced by managers throughout the day, having an organized task management process is essential.
  • After each meeting, the speaker writes down tasks he owes as well as tasks others are responsible for. This helps keep track of responsibilities and ensures nothing falls through the cracks.

Creating Blocks of Time for Deep Work

In this section, the speaker explains how he creates blocks of time for deep work and shares his approach to maintaining focus and avoiding distractions.

Establishing Deep Work Time

  • The speaker sets aside specific time slots in his calendar for deep work.
  • He reviews the upcoming week on Fridays and identifies the top questions or topics that require dedicated thinking.
  • Additionally, he dedicates one day of the weekend to deep work, finding it refreshing to engage in thoughtful reflection without feeling like work.

Protecting Deep Work Time

  • To ensure uninterrupted focus during deep work sessions, the speaker avoids scheduling meetings during those times.
  • He mentions having a policy where if someone books a meeting during his designated deep work slot, he will "slap" them (metaphorically).
  • The speaker acknowledges that this approach may not be suitable for everyone but emphasizes its effectiveness in achieving success.

Optimizing Processing and Getting Things Done

In this section, the speaker shares additional best practices for staying organized and productive amidst a constant influx of tasks and responsibilities.

Task Management Process

  • The speaker emphasizes the importance of having a robust yet simple task management process.
  • After each meeting, he writes down tasks he owes as well as tasks others are responsible for.
  • This practice helps him stay on top of his workload and ensures that nothing gets overlooked or forgotten.

Managing Overwhelming Workload

  • As a manager with back-to-back meetings from 10 am to 6 pm, it is easy to feel overwhelmed by the sheer volume of tasks.
  • The speaker has invested time in developing an effective task management process to cope with this challenge.

Conclusion

In this transcript excerpt, the speaker discusses the challenges of scaling decision making, the advantages of product managers in terms of time for thinking and planning, strategies for creating blocks of deep work time, and best practices for staying organized amidst a busy workload. Effective time management and dedicated thinking are highlighted as key factors in achieving success as a product manager.

Time Management and Task Organization

In this section, the speaker discusses their approach to time management and task organization. They emphasize the importance of grouping tasks into logical chunks and differentiating between tactical and strategic priorities. The speaker also mentions using tools like Slack to keep track of tasks.

Grooming Tasks and Creating Headspace

  • The speaker spends time grooming tasks, which involves grouping them into logical chunks based on their importance, whether they are tactical or strategic, and what others owe them.
  • They use Slack to remind others about tasks owed to them, keeping it out of sight but not out of mind.
  • The overall goal is to create headspace for processing rather than relying on memory. The speaker focuses on writing everything down instead of memorizing.

Efficient Processing and Task Management

  • Instead of memorizing information, the speaker emphasizes spending more time on processing tasks efficiently.
  • They recommend becoming proficient in task management techniques and grouping similar tasks together.
  • The next day's calendar should align with the goals set the previous day, with tactical tasks grouped separately from more strategic thinking.

PM Team Structure and Efficiency

This section focuses on the structure of the product management (PM) team and how they achieve efficiency with a relatively small number of PMs. The speaker mentions team ratios, organization based on customer pain points, and leveraging other team members as PMs.

Current PM Team Structure

  • The company has around 13 PMs working alongside over 100 engineers.
  • The ideal ratio is typically one PM per eight to fifteen engineers.
  • B2B teams may have slightly lower ratios due to additional complexities involving marketing, sales, and customer relationships.

Empowering Others as Product Managers

  • To maximize efficiency, the company encourages everyone in various roles (designers, engineers) to think like PMs.
  • This approach has been valuable for the company's culture and allows for leveraging different perspectives and expertise.
  • The speaker believes that product encompasses more than just product management, including engineering, design, data science, etc.

Product Operations and Reducing Low-Leverage Work

  • The company invested in a product operations team to handle operational functions related to product development.
  • This includes project management, issue management, release management, enablement, beta testing, and customer research.
  • By reducing low-leverage work typically assigned to PMs (e.g., writing tickets), engineers can take ownership of their tasks and move faster.

Core Responsibilities of a Product Manager

In this section, the speaker discusses the core responsibilities of a product manager at Ramp. They mention strategy, vision alignment, team building, and cross-functional collaboration as key aspects of the role.

Key Responsibilities of a Product Manager

  • Strategy and Vision: A product manager is responsible for setting strategic direction and aligning it with the overall vision of the company.
  • Team Building: Building a strong culture within the team is crucial for effective collaboration and achieving goals.
  • Cross-functional Collaboration: Product managers need to work closely with other teams such as engineering, design, data science to ensure successful execution.

Ways to Have Fun as a Team and Protecting the Core Team

The speaker discusses two important aspects of team dynamics - having fun as a team and protecting the core team from external distractions.

Having Fun as a Team

  • It is important for teams to find ways to have fun together.
  • This helps in building camaraderie and fostering a positive work environment.

Protecting the Core Team

  • The core team should be protected from stakeholders who may want unnecessary updates or meetings.
  • The speaker emphasizes the importance of shielding the team from such distractions.
  • Being the central point of contact, they can filter out unnecessary requests and bring in the right people at the right time.

Assessing Engineers' Abilities and Alignment with Company Goals

The speaker addresses how to assess if engineers are aligned with company goals and capable of operating effectively within a certain framework.

Assessing Engineer Alignment

  • To determine if engineers can operate effectively, consider their motivation to win in the market and their understanding of business context.
  • Curiosity about how the company makes money, customer preferences, and project priorities are indicators of alignment.

Assessing Engineer Capability

  • Evaluate if engineers can execute tasks independently without constant supervision.
  • Look for proactive behavior, such as taking initiative to resolve issues or provide feedback without being prompted.
  • Consider their ability to work collaboratively across different channels and domains.

Mentality and Culture Aspects for Engineering Teams

The speaker highlights mentality and culture aspects that differentiate engineering teams at Ramp from others. These aspects contribute to an empowered engineering culture.

Proactive Mentality

  • Engineers should demonstrate proactiveness, desire to help, accountability for their product's performance, and ability to identify and address blockers.
  • They should be willing to take ownership of their work and make improvements without constant supervision.

Culture Shift

  • The speaker emphasizes the importance of building a culture where engineers challenge ideas, push back on designs, and have strong opinions.
  • This culture fosters deeper thinking and growth for both engineers and managers.

Benefits of Empowered Engineering Teams

The speaker discusses the benefits of having an empowered engineering team that challenges ideas and has strong opinions.

Benefits of Empowerment

  • An empowered engineering team brings diverse perspectives, challenges assumptions, and pushes for better outcomes.
  • While managing such a team may be challenging, it leads to deeper thinking, improved decision-making, and personal growth as a manager.

Unique Hiring Criteria at Ramp

The speaker shares unique hiring criteria at Ramp that prioritize individuals with a strong desire to have an impact.

Desire for Impact

  • Ramp looks for candidates who are highly motivated to make a significant impact.
  • This criterion helps in selecting individuals who are driven to create meaningful change within the company.

Deep Thinking and Decision Making

In this section, the speaker discusses the importance of deep thinking and decision-making skills in product management. They emphasize the value of understanding trade-offs and making informed decisions.

Importance of Deep Thinking

  • The speaker values individuals who can think deeply about a decision or trade-off.
  • They believe that deep thinking is crucial for understanding how people make decisions and their ability to think deeply about various aspects.
  • Experience is considered less important compared to the ability to think deeply and make impactful decisions.

Breaking into Product Management

  • The speaker shares advice for those interested in pursuing a career in product management.
  • They recommend finding a role adjacent to product management that allows individuals to gain experience and prove themselves.
  • Roles such as product operations, business operations, sales engineering, solution engineering, design, or engineering can provide valuable experiences.
  • Typically, high-performing individuals who understand either the customer or the product well are considered for product management roles.

Importance of Empowered and Talented Engineers and Designers

This section highlights the significance of empowered and talented engineers and designers in driving success in a company. The speaker emphasizes that hiring top talent has been instrumental in ramp's success.

Impact of Empowered Engineers and Designers

  • The speaker attributes ramp's success to having empowered and talented engineers and designers on their team.
  • They mention that early on, their CTO focused primarily on hiring the best talent rather than other aspects like product strategy or revenue.
  • Hiring exceptional engineers and designers has had compounding effects on both the company's growth and subsequent hires.

Recommended Books, TV Show, Interview Question

In this section, the speaker shares some personal recommendations for books, a TV show, and an interview question.

Book Recommendations

  • The speaker recommends "When Breath Becomes Air" as a book that pulls on heartstrings and makes one more human.

Favorite TV Show

  • The speaker mentions the show "Chef's Table" as a favorite recent TV show.
  • They highlight its focus on leadership, the restaurant industry, teamwork, and the balance between quality and velocity.

Interview Question

  • The speaker's favorite interview question is asking candidates about the hardest thing they have ever done.
  • They want to understand what difficulty means to them, how they overcame challenges, and their ability to work with others in overcoming difficulties.

Understanding the Whoop App

In this section, the speaker discusses the Whoop app and its focus on providing actionable insights based on data. The app correlates daily activities with recovery scores and overall health, offering valuable insights for individuals to prioritize their well-being.

The Importance of Health Tracking

  • The Whoop app provides a Daily Journal that records all activities throughout the day.
  • It correlates these activities with recovery scores and overall health.
  • Users gain insights into how their actions impact their future health.

Health Focus for Professionals

  • Whether you are an athlete at a high-growth startup or working in a small or large company, focusing on health is crucial.
  • Investing in tools like Whoop can help individuals prioritize their well-being.

Enhancing Product Development Process

In this section, the speaker highlights a change made by the head of design at ramp. Designers now spend more time creating visionary prototypes and sharing them through videos. This change has had a significant impact on team excitement and clarity in work.

Visionary Prototypes for Enhanced Work Experience

  • Designers now dedicate more time to creating visionary prototypes.
  • Sharing these prototypes through videos has positively impacted team excitement and clarity in work.
  • Interactive prototypes using tools like Figma and Loom allow team members to play around with ideas.

Productivity Tips and Tools

Here, the speaker shares productivity tips that include turning off notifications, managing Slack usage, checking emails once a day, and becoming proficient in using essential tools. These practices can help individuals stay focused during deep work sessions.

Boosting Productivity with Effective Practices

  • Turn off notifications to minimize distractions during deep work sessions.
  • Limit Slack usage to specific times (e.g., top of every hour).
  • Check emails once a day and quickly go through them.
  • Invest time in becoming proficient with the tools you use, such as calendars, Slack, and email.

Final Thoughts and Call to Action

In this final section, the speaker expresses gratitude for the opportunity to share insights. They encourage listeners to connect on social media and consider joining ramp if interested. The importance of maintaining a growth mindset, investing in personal growth, and practicing patience is emphasized.

Connecting and Opportunities

  • Connect with the speaker on Twitter (@JeffInTech) or LinkedIn.
  • Consider joining ramp if interested in contributing to their team.
  • Kindness towards oneself is crucial for personal well-being.
  • Maintain a growth mindset and invest in continuous learning.
  • Patience is necessary as personal growth takes time.

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