The Most Studied Energy Healer on the Planet | E81 Charlie Goldsmith

Name: The Most Studied Energy Healer on the Planet | E81 Charlie Goldsmith
Uploaded: 2026-02-17T15:00:59.000Z
Duration: 3 h 10 min 3 s

The Miraculous Healing Journey of Charlie Goldsmith

Introduction to Energy Healing

The speaker expresses a belief that if people truly understood the potential of energy healing, they would be actively advocating for it, describing it as "stolen medicine."

Charlie Goldsmith is introduced as an energy healer with a reputation for achieving dramatic results in his practice.

A personal anecdote reveals a pivotal moment when Charlie discovered his ability to heal; he witnessed a woman regain movement in her arthritic finger after experiencing an unusual sensation in his hands.

Discovery of Healing Abilities

Charlie reflects on the initial confusion regarding his abilities and mentions a study where he helped 24 out of 32 patients reduce their pain levels significantly.

He shares an experience of injuring himself and feeling physical sensations that prompted him to explore these newfound abilities further.

The Health Retreat Experience

Tanya Dah and Cody Blue introduce the podcast, emphasizing Charlie's miraculous work and the scientific validation behind it.

Charlie recounts how he had no prior knowledge or belief in healing practices like Reiki before attending a health retreat where his journey began.

At the retreat, during breakfast, he experienced an involuntary pulling sensation in his hands that felt magnetic and strange.

Initial Reactions and Validation

As he struggled with this new sensation, someone at the table noticed his distress and asked if he was okay. This interaction highlighted his fear of losing touch with reality.

He recalls promising himself to be honest about any mental health struggles due to past experiences with psychosis in family members.

Connection with Others Through Energy

After sharing his experience with another participant at the retreat, she confirmed feeling the same magnetic sensation from his hands, providing him relief from fears of insanity.

Following this validation, more individuals approached him to feel what was emanating from him. He describes sensing different energies among them, particularly noting one woman's unique condition that required attention.

This structured summary captures key moments from Charlie Goldsmith's narrative about discovering energy healing while providing timestamps for easy reference.

Experiencing Energy Healing

Initial Experience of Healing

The speaker describes a state of doing rather than thinking, likening it to being in a trance while performing an energy healing technique.

Upon looking up, the speaker realizes they are surrounded by people; one individual is crying, prompting concern about causing pain.

The individual reveals that they have not been able to bend their finger for 10 years due to arthritis, showcasing the unexpected results of the healing process.

Shock and Realization

The speaker expresses disbelief at the outcome, admitting they had no prior knowledge that such healing was possible.

This experience leads to a profound shock as it challenges their understanding of reality and human potential for healing.

Reflecting on education, the speaker notes that such phenomena were not taught in school, except perhaps in religious contexts.

Reflection on Religion and Phenomena

When asked about religion, the speaker shares their non-religious upbringing but suggests that religion may stem from natural phenomena like energy healing.

They argue that many aspects of religion could be derived from experiences similar to theirs with energy healing and plant medicine.

Personal Impact and Family Dynamics

The realization brings discomfort as it alters their perception of reality; this moment feels surreal yet tangible.

Afterward, the speaker attempts to share this experience with their father via phone call but anticipates difficulty in conveying what happened.

Challenges with Acceptance

The initial event opens a pathway for further exploration into energy healing but also leads to complex family dynamics where acceptance varies among loved ones.

The transition from being perceived one way for 18 years to suddenly being seen differently creates challenges within familial relationships.

Despite societal shifts towards new age movements in previous decades, acceptance remains difficult even within supportive circles.

Ongoing Struggles with Perception

A subsequent ceremony nine years later highlights ongoing skepticism from family members regarding the speaker's abilities and experiences.

This skepticism leads to feelings of shame and embarrassment as respect diminishes among loved ones despite genuine experiences.

Exploring Unique Talents and Healing Practices

The Challenge of Pursuing a Rare Talent

The speaker discusses the difficulty of pursuing a unique talent, noting that it often comes at the cost of one's reputation due to societal labels.

They highlight the rarity of their abilities compared to average practitioners in similar fields, emphasizing a significant gap in effectiveness.

Understanding the X Factor in Healing

The speaker describes an "X factor" that allows them to have rapid effects on chronic conditions, sometimes within seconds.

They compare this phenomenon to other talents, suggesting that not everyone can excel equally in various skills like music or sports.

Talent vs. Skill: A Delicate Balance

The discussion shifts to how society has a distribution of talents appropriate for its needs, with many unaware of their own potential.

The speaker believes that while skill is important, innate talent (the X factor) is fundamental and cannot be solely learned from textbooks.

Spirituality and Consciousness in Practice

When asked about spiritual influences, the speaker acknowledges a connection to a higher consciousness or intelligence during their work.

They argue that creativity and inventions also stem from this intelligent consciousness, linking it back to various forms of talent.

Active Engagement in Healing Techniques

The speaker emphasizes that their practice is not passive; they actively control energy rather than simply wishing for healing outcomes.

They reflect on how skill development over 27 years has enhanced their ability but stress that illness can diminish their effectiveness due to the absence of the X factor.

Health as a Fundamental Skill

There’s an acknowledgment that maintaining personal health is crucial for effective practice; keeping one’s vessel clean is seen as essential.

The conversation hints at curiosity regarding whether initial practices involved learning techniques for self-care alongside developing healing skills.

Exploring Healing Abilities

The Practicality of Healing Techniques

Discussion on the importance of directing intention and focus in healing practices, including the use of invocations and hand movements to amplify effects.

Emphasis on being present and how this state influences energy; focusing energy can yield different outcomes.

Clarification that physical movement is not necessary for healing; internal processes vary based on the issue at hand.

Experiences with Energy Healing

Anecdote about a spontaneous healing experience where a simple touch alleviated someone's back pain, highlighting the power of presence.

Explanation of varying levels of focus required during healing sessions, which can involve working on both physical bodies and souls as separate entities.

Teaching Healing Practices

The speaker clarifies their approach to teaching, stating they share personal methods rather than claiming to teach universal healing abilities.

Acknowledgment that some individuals may not achieve similar results due to an "X factor" beyond control; feedback from students indicates varied success rates.

Personal Journey in Healing

Reflection on initial reluctance to teach due to natural ability; eventually decided to share knowledge after repeated requests from others.

Comparison between innate abilities and learned skills; suggests potential for dormant abilities in others that could be awakened through guidance.

Challenges Faced by Healers

Mention of encountering skepticism and hostility from family regarding healing claims, illustrating societal challenges faced by those with such abilities.

Commitment to creating a supportive environment for healers, aiming for scientific validation of genuine healing abilities amidst prevalent skepticism.

Scientific Validation Efforts

Discussion about efforts made over 15 years towards establishing platforms for testing genuine healing capabilities while addressing misconceptions around placebo effects.

Recognition that placebo effects are significant but often misunderstood; highlights the need for rigorous studies to differentiate between true healing and placebo responses.

Understanding Healing Beyond Placebo

The Distinction Between True Healers and Placebo Effects

The speaker discusses the misconception that many individuals can heal others, emphasizing that while placebo effects can be beneficial, they differ from genuine healing abilities.

There is a challenge in identifying true healers versus those who only produce placebo effects, leading to skepticism about claims of healing abilities.

An app has been developed to help identify individuals who can perform healing beyond placebo effects, aiming to uncover latent talent in this field.

Challenges in Finding Effective Healers

The speaker notes the difficulty for average people to find effective healers due to the prevalence of placebo effects masking real talent.

Many self-proclaimed healers may not possess actual skills; thus, distinguishing between them and truly effective practitioners is challenging.

App Development for Healing Assessment

The app's initial version aims to connect users with chronic pain anonymously through an AI interface, ensuring privacy during testing.

Users will provide feedback on their experiences after being connected with patients suffering from conditions like migraines.

Future Aspirations for the Healing Community

Once sufficient data is collected demonstrating effective healing results, the next version of the app will facilitate payment for qualified practitioners.

The speaker expresses a desire to elevate energy healing from being viewed skeptically to gaining credibility within medical practices.

Maintaining Standards Among Practitioners

Qualified practitioners must maintain high performance levels; failure to do so will result in requalification requirements, ensuring ongoing effectiveness.

This system aims to establish a standard where only elite healers are recognized and allowed to practice.

Experiencing Healing: A Personal Journey

The Initial Experience of Healing

The speaker shares a profound personal experience where their hands felt magnetically pinned to their heart, leading them to reconsider their atheistic beliefs.

This moment sparked a realization about the power of prayer and healing, as they began to explore energy work despite initial skepticism.

They recount teaching others by having them pin their hands together, allowing them to feel the same magnetic sensation during healing sessions.

Stigmatization and Isolation in Healing Practices

The speaker emphasizes the feelings of humiliation and alienation that often accompany miraculous experiences, highlighting the struggle to share these moments without fear of judgment.

They discuss how shame can prevent individuals from expressing their healing experiences due to concerns about being perceived as boastful or fraudulent.

Challenging Perceptions of Placebo Effect

The conversation shifts towards the placebo effect, which is often weaponized against alternative healers; however, it is acknowledged as part of a broader paradigm in medicine.

The speaker argues for recognizing both placebo and nocebo effects in understanding healing practices, advocating for a new medical paradigm that includes these concepts.

Authenticity in Healing Practices

There is an emphasis on the importance of identifying genuine healers amidst prevalent fraudulence in alternative medicine, which contributes to societal prejudice against such practices.

The speaker praises another healer's work with children suffering from chronic pain, illustrating the transformative impact of authentic healing through a specific case study.

Varied Successes in Healing

A poignant example is shared about a young girl who experienced significant relief from pain after receiving healing work, showcasing the emotional weight and beauty of such transformations.

Discussion continues around various conditions treated successfully by energy medicine practitioners, including chronic pain management and cognitive issues resulting from accidents.

Personal Pain Experience

One participant shares their own chronic knee pain stemming from an injury while carrying water; this personal anecdote highlights ongoing struggles with physical ailments.

They describe how certain movements trigger pain, indicating that chronic conditions can persist long after initial injuries have healed.

Healing Techniques and Their Efficacy

Initial Testing and Responses

The speaker encourages a participant to express their feelings during the healing process, emphasizing the importance of clear communication.

The participant reports feeling only a minimal response (75% less sensation), indicating variability in healing effectiveness.

There is an acknowledgment that sometimes no sensation is felt at all, highlighting unpredictability in outcomes.

Process and Outcomes

The speaker explains that results can vary; some individuals may experience immediate relief while others might require multiple sessions for improvement.

Out of ten people treated, typically one or two show no effect, while half may respond positively after one session.

Incremental Improvements

For those who do not achieve full relief initially, follow-up sessions often yield incremental improvements over time.

A small percentage of patients may only receive temporary pain relief rather than complete resolution of symptoms.

Belief and Credibility Factors

The speaker reflects on how belief systems might influence healing outcomes, noting personal experiences where skepticism was present.

Questions arise about differences in responses among individuals and whether belief plays a role in treatment efficacy.

Historical Context and Current Practice

The speaker shares their journey into healing, mentioning initial disbelief from others when they first began helping people at age 18.

They describe working with patients who have not responded to conventional medical treatments, emphasizing their unique approach outside traditional settings.

Approach to Healing Work

Unlike typical healers sought out by patients, the speaker operates in environments where individuals are not actively seeking alternative therapies.

Most work involves demonstrations or random selections during events rather than scheduled appointments; this method aims to build credibility through real-time results.

Healing and Resilience: A Personal Journey

Overcoming Shame and Embracing Authenticity

The speaker reflects on their resilience against shame, stating they had a "go [ __ ] yourself" attitude towards criticism, which fueled their determination.

They emphasize the importance of personal experience in healing, asserting that they have witnessed significant healing in themselves, making external opinions irrelevant.

Fearlessness in Practice

Despite being under scrutiny with cameras present, the speaker expresses confidence in their abilities and is unafraid of failure during sessions.

They acknowledge that fear of failure could hinder their work but assert that consistency in results allows them to remain fearless.

Acceptance of Limitations

The speaker recognizes that not every case will result in success; accepting this reality is crucial for their journey as a healer.

They recount facing numerous challenges from family and critics but find motivation to continue despite attempts to undermine them.

Defining Success and Setting Boundaries

The speaker discusses their evolving definition of success since age 18, focusing on solving past issues related to healing without boundaries.

They aim to create a platform where individuals can heal while maintaining personal boundaries and choosing when to engage.

Navigating Emotional Challenges

The emotional toll of failing to help someone is highlighted as one of the hardest aspects of being a healer; it requires thick skin and presence.

The platform aims to alleviate these pressures by providing anonymity and flexibility for practitioners, allowing them to practice without burnout or embarrassment.

Addressing Unrealistic Expectations

The speaker critiques societal expectations for healers to achieve 100% efficacy, comparing it unfavorably with other professions where high performance is accepted.

They argue against unrealistic demands placed on healers by referencing historical figures like Babe Ruth, who achieved greatness with an imperfect success rate.

Wounded Healer: Balancing Health and Healing

The Journey of a Wounded Healer

The speaker identifies as a "wounded healer," emphasizing their personal struggles and experiences that contribute to their understanding of healing.

They acknowledge the audience's shared experiences with the supernatural, highlighting the importance of credibility in discussions about healing.

Personal Health Challenges

The speaker reflects on past health issues, including frequent sickness and burnout from helping others without self-care.

They describe justifying their illness by comparing it to the severity of others' conditions they were treating, leading to detrimental health effects.

Learning Boundaries and Self-Care

A turning point occurred when they realized the need for boundaries in their healing practice to maintain personal health.

The speaker now prioritizes a healthy lifestyle, including a clean diet and mental well-being, which enhances their ability to heal others effectively.

Empathy Through Experience

Their own experiences with illness foster empathy towards those who are unwell, suggesting that understanding suffering is crucial for effective healing.

They express concern over disempowering individuals by being seen as the sole solution for healing.

Spiritual Growth and Inner Focus

The discussion shifts towards spirituality; the speaker acknowledges how their path has opened up spiritual beliefs while focusing on inner experiences rather than external questions.

They emphasize that true understanding comes from within, advocating for personal growth over seeking answers to existential questions.

Experiencing God and the Nature of the Soul

The Concept of God and Personal Experience

The speaker reflects on their belief in God, emphasizing personal experiences that open their mind to this concept. They acknowledge the power of prayer and conscious states in manifesting experiences.

Night Terrors and Unique Experiences

The speaker shares their history with night terrors, describing them as intense moments of pure terror where only fear is active.

They differentiate between typical night terrors and a recent experience characterized by profound emptiness rather than terror, which they describe as one of the most painful feelings.

Understanding Pain and Consciousness

The feeling during this episode resembles amnesia; while aware of their identity, they feel disconnected from themselves. This sensation is described as low-level pain but extremely impactful.

After an hour of enduring this feeling, the speaker surrenders to it, leading to a realization about their past experiences with similar sensations.

Insights on Soul Death

The speaker connects their experience to the concept of "dark night of the soul," identifying it as a form of soul death where one loses touch with their essence.

They explain that understanding oneself objectively is challenging because self-awareness is inherently subjective; using metaphors like flames not knowing heat illustrates this point.

Healing and Connection to Self

When healing others, the speaker taps into what they identify as their soul's essence. Recognizing its absence during painful episodes has deepened their understanding.

They contrast soul death with ego death experienced through substances, noting that true awareness comes from recognizing one's own essence through suffering.

Exploring Plant Medicine and Ego Death

The Nature of Awareness

The speaker discusses the concept of awareness, suggesting that it is not merely a function of the brain or nerve pathways but rather an aspect of the soul. This realization can be profound yet unsettling.

Introduction to Plant Medicine

The conversation shifts to plant medicine and its connection to ego death, with one participant affirming their experience with such healing practices.

Mention of traveling to Peru for a transformative experience with plant medicine, specifically referencing Ibogaine as a significant substance encountered.

Comparing Healing Experiences

A comparison is made between different plant medicines, highlighting that once someone experiences Ibogaine, they may not feel the need to return to other forms.

Discussion on how various substances like Ayahuasca can be both healing and traumatic; however, Ibogaine is described as less intense and more straightforward in its effects.

Efficacy of Ibogaine

The speaker reflects on personal healing journeys, stating that one session of Ibogaine was more effective than years spent with Ayahuasca.

Despite fears surrounding the intensity and duration (24 hours), participants are encouraged by the potential benefits that outweigh these concerns.

Personal Anecdotes and Insights

An invitation from a clinic specializing in addiction recovery leads to contemplation about undergoing a lengthy session despite initial hesitations.

Participants express surprise at how manageable Ibogaine's intensity is compared to their expectations based on previous experiences with Ayahuasca.

Reflections on Healing Processes

Acknowledgment that while some may find Ayahuasca sessions overwhelming (rated as 10), others might perceive them differently due to lack of prior exposure.

Positive reflections on lighter experiences with Brazilian Ayahuasca compared to Peruvian varieties, indicating personal preferences in medicinal approaches.

Spiritual Significance

The discussion culminates in recognizing Ibogaine as potentially divine medicine, emphasizing its unique qualities compared to other substances.

Humor emerges around the sometimes frightening nature of these experiences; participants reflect on how fear can provoke necessary emotional releases during sessions.

Conclusion: Understanding Intensity in Healing

Questions arise regarding whether intense experiences are necessary for healing; insights gained from using Ibogaine suggest they are not always required for effective outcomes.

Personal stories illustrate how confronting darker aspects during ceremonies can lead to cathartic laughter and release, reinforcing the therapeutic potential inherent in these practices.

Exploring the Nature of Inner Experiences

The Clarity of Experience

The interaction with a substance like a bog provides absolute clarity, allowing individuals to transcend their immediate environment and experience other dimensions.

The Duality of Experience

A strong enough dose can lead to feelings of being lost or forgotten, which can be both frightening and beautiful. This inner experience is unpredictable.

Personal Reflection on Visuals

Unlike intense DMT experiences, personal reflections involve clearer visuals akin to dreaming, but they are not perceivable when eyes are open.

Communication During Experiences

In contrast to more isolating experiences, one can still communicate during these sessions if feeling stuck; this aspect is often misrepresented in discussions about such substances.

Misunderstanding Plant Medicine

There’s a significant public relations issue surrounding plant medicine; it is often poorly advertised and misunderstood in its healing potential.

The Connection Between Religion and Healing

Foundations of Major Religions

There’s an assertion that all major religions stem from healing practices involving plant medicine and similar phenomena rooted in ancient wisdom.

Insights from Jesus' Teachings

An example cited is Jesus’ statement about forgiveness, interpreted as an acknowledgment of human trauma rather than merely an extraordinary ability to forgive.

Understanding Human Behavior

Behaviors resulting from trauma reflect fractures in personality; addiction and violent outbursts are manifestations of this fractured state.

Mechanisms for Healing Fractures

Plant medicines like iboga help heal these fractures by addressing underlying issues related to addiction and emotional pain through unconditional love.

Confession as a Healing Tool

Historical mechanisms within religious contexts allowed for anonymous confession, promoting acceptance and healing by recognizing unregulated parts of oneself needing love.

Surrendering to the Process

Acceptance Through Surrender

Engaging with plant medicine involves surrendering to one's darkness or pain, facilitating healing through self-love and acceptance.

Church's Role in Healing Mechanisms

The church historically provided a space for confession as a means for individuals to receive unconditional love, aiding in the reintegration of fractured selves into conscious control.

Ancient Wisdom's Relevance Today

Timeless Lessons from Ancient Text

Ancient teachings contain insights into human behavior that remain relevant today; they highlight mechanisms for understanding our actions beyond mere morality.

Practical Applications

Examples include teachings on generosity even amidst loss—demonstrating acceptance of present circumstances rather than viewing them through a lens of victimhood.

Understanding Forgiveness and Healing in Addiction

The Nature of Addiction

The speaker emphasizes that individuals struggling with addiction do not choose this path; they are often trapped by their circumstances, highlighting the need for compassion: "forgive them for they know not what they do."

It is crucial to be present and embrace all aspects of oneself, including feelings of shame, which can hinder emotional healing.

The Role of Confession and Acceptance

The confessional process is portrayed as a powerful tool for healing, where unconditional acceptance allows individuals to share their struggles without judgment.

Many who have overcome addiction recognize that sharing their burdens openly can lead to significant breakthroughs in their recovery journey.

Historical Context and Misinterpretations

There is a suggestion that historical teachings may have been misinterpreted over time, leading to a disconnect from the original messages intended to guide humanity towards understanding and compassion.

The speaker notes that while interpretations may change (like "Chinese whispers"), the core truths about forgiveness and healing remain relevant.

Exploring Healing Techniques

A discussion arises about personal pain experienced by one participant, prompting an exploration of healing techniques in real-time.

The speaker agrees to demonstrate a healing process live, indicating openness to teaching others through practical experience.

Energy Healing Process Explained

The speaker describes how they focus energy on specific areas of pain within the body without needing complex rituals or connections.

They express skepticism towards healers claiming exclusive access to "source energy," advocating instead for a more grounded approach based on direct energetic interaction.

Techniques for Pain Relief

Initial techniques involve concentrating energy on the painful area; feedback indicates improvement after just a few moments.

As different methods are applied, the speaker explains how replicating medical procedures energetically can yield effective results in alleviating physical discomfort.

Energy Medicine and Its Importance

The Role of Energy in Healing

The speaker emphasizes the significance of energy work as a form of medicine, suggesting that it can be transformative for individuals seeking healing.

They encourage curiosity and passion among those interested in energy medicine, highlighting its potential benefits.

The speaker believes energy medicine is one of the best forms of treatment available due to its broad applicability, lack of side effects, and effectiveness over distance.

Awareness and Advocacy for Energy Medicine

There is a call to action for people to recognize the value of energy medicine; the speaker expresses frustration at the lack of widespread support despite its potential benefits.

They mention that many individuals suffer from chronic pain without adequate solutions, advocating for greater recognition and support for alternative healing methods.

Community Responsibility in Healing Practices

The speaker stresses that everyone has a responsibility to support effective healing practices rather than just seeking personal benefit.

They highlight the importance of finding practitioners who can provide these services and encouraging others to explore their own abilities in energy work.

Development and Use of Technology in Healing

An app named "Annie" is introduced as a tool designed to help individuals with chronic pain by connecting them with practitioners capable of providing energy healing.

The app aims to gather data on users' experiences with energy work, emphasizing community involvement in testing its efficacy.

Overcoming Misconceptions About Energy Medicine

The speaker reflects on societal assumptions regarding who can perform energy healing, urging listeners not to dismiss their potential abilities.

They argue that misconceptions about the existence and validity of energy medicine have led society to overlook powerful healing modalities historically rooted in cultural practices.

Building Connections and Understanding the Mind

Community Engagement and Friendship

The speaker expresses enthusiasm about their community, indicating a strong sense of belonging and connection.

A light-hearted exchange occurs where the speaker is invited to be friends, highlighting the importance of relationships in their work.

Sharing Resources

The speaker shares their website, charliegoldsmith.com, as a resource for further engagement with their content.

They mention writing a book titled "Human Medicine," which focuses on understanding personal mental mechanics and addressing issues like addiction and uncontrolled thoughts.

Insights from "Human Medicine"

The book aims to explain why individuals struggle with mental control, including feelings of needing substances like alcohol or antidepressants to cope.

It emphasizes that many people are unaware of how to regain control over their minds, suggesting that this knowledge has been lost or never taught.

Addressing Emotional Challenges

The discussion highlights common coping mechanisms (e.g., drinking or eating) instead of addressing underlying emotional issues directly.

The book provides strategies for dealing with emotions constructively rather than through pacification methods.

Call to Action for Audience Engagement

Listeners are encouraged to rate the show on platforms like Spotify and Apple Podcasts as a way to support the creators.

There’s an emphasis on buying Charlie's book as another means of supporting his work while gaining valuable insights.