The 10 traits of great PMs, AI, and Slack’s approach to product | Noah Weiss (Slack, Google)

Introduction and Taking Bigger Bolder Bets

In this section, Noah Weiss discusses the importance of taking bigger and bolder bets in product development. He emphasizes the need to look beyond immediate goals and explore new areas that may not be fully matured yet.

Mental Metaphor of Getting to the Next Hill

• Teams often focus on crawling up a hill without realizing there is a whole range of opportunities behind it.

• Taking bigger and bolder bets can lead to creating new teams from scratch.

• Exploring new areas before they become mature can be beneficial for growth.

Native Audio Visual Products and Customer Demand

Noah Weiss talks about how Slack ventured into native audio visual products like huddles and clips, driven by customer demand. He also mentions the impact of the pandemic on their product development.

Venturing into New Areas

• Slack explored native audio visual products like huddles and clips.

• The pandemic accelerated the demand for these products from customers.

Prototype, Pilot, and Watch Formula

Noah Weiss explains Slack's approach to innovation by using a formula of prototyping, piloting, and observing results. This approach allows them to create amazing experiences for users.

Formula for Innovation

• Create prototypes and give teams space to run pilots.

• Observe the results and learn from them.

• Focus on creating amazing experiences that wow users.

Introduction of Guest - Noah Weiss

Lenny introduces Noah Weiss as the Chief Product Officer at Slack. Noah's experience includes working at Foursquare, Google, Fox Creek Software, where he gained valuable insights into building successful products.

Introduction of Noah Weiss

• Noah Weiss is the Chief Product Officer at Slack.

• He previously worked at Foursquare, Google, and Fox Creek Software.

Traits of Great Product Managers and Working with Founders

In this section, Noah Weiss discusses the 10 traits of great product managers and shares insights on working effectively with strongly opinionated founders.

Traits of Great Product Managers

• Noah shares his perspective on the 10 traits of great product managers.

• Working effectively with strongly opinionated founders requires open communication and collaboration.

AI in Products and Complaint Storms

Noah Weiss talks about incorporating AI into products and how Slack uses a process called complaint storms to improve their product development. He also reflects on Slack's self-service business plateauing in 2019 and how they turned it around.

Incorporating AI in Products

• Noah shares his learnings from incorporating AI into products at Google, Foursquare, and Slack.

• Complaint storms help Slack gather feedback for improving their product.

Competition with Microsoft Teams and Discord

Noah Weiss discusses competition with Microsoft Teams and Discord. He shares insights on how Slack differentiates itself in the market.

Competition in the Market

• Noah reflects on competition with Microsoft Teams and Discord.

• Slack focuses on differentiation to stand out in the market.

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Sidebar Sponsor Message

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Introduction and Pat Leave Discussion

Lenny welcomes Noah Weiss to the podcast and mentions that this will be his last recording before going on paternity leave. They discuss advice for someone entering parenthood while Noah shares his experience returning from paternity leave.

Paternity Leave Discussion

• Lenny mentions that he is going on paternity leave.

• Noah shares advice for someone entering parenthood.

• Noah discusses his experience returning from paternity leave.

Conclusion

The episode concludes with final remarks from Lenny and Noah Weiss.

Conclusion

• Lenny thanks Noah Weiss for being a guest on the podcast.

• Final remarks are made as the episode comes to an end.

Three Maxims for the First Two Months

The speaker shares three maxims to keep in mind during the first two months of parenting.

Maxims for the First Two Months

• A little bit better every day: Emphasizes the importance of continuous improvement and learning through hands-on experience. Reading books and consuming information is valuable, but taking action is essential.

• Don't over extrapolate from the early days: Reminds parents not to expect that their baby's behavior in the first few weeks will be indicative of their long-term development. Babies grow and develop rapidly, so it's important to maintain perspective.

• Fully engage as a parent: Encourages parents to immerse themselves fully in their role by actively participating in tasks like changing diapers, feeding, and communicating with their baby. Being present in the moment enhances bonding and connection.

Taking a Visual Detox

The speaker discusses the benefits of disconnecting from devices and being fully present with their child.

Benefits of a Visual Detox

• The speaker emphasizes the importance of putting away electronic devices to focus on spending quality time with their child.

• By detaching from technology, they were able to establish a stronger bond with their daughter and found it more rewarding.

• Taking a visual detox allowed them to be fully present in the moment and connect deeply with their child.

Balancing Work and Parental Leave

The speaker talks about preparing for parental leave while managing work responsibilities.

Balancing Work and Parental Leave

• As they don't have access to paid parental leave, they have been working ahead by stacking guest posts and podcasts before taking leave.

• Their goal is to fully immerse themselves in the parenting experience without work distractions.

• They have planned and organized their workload to ensure a smooth transition during their absence.

Appreciation for Foursquare API

The speaker expresses gratitude for the Foursquare API and its impact on their previous startup.

Appreciation for Foursquare API

• The speaker built a startup called Local Mind using the Foursquare API, which allowed users to gather information about places from people who had checked in.

• They express gratitude to the developer of the Foursquare API for creating an awesome product that played a significant role in their startup's success.

• Despite facing challenges when Instagram gained popularity, they still appreciate the lasting impact of Foursquare and how it led them to Airbnb.

Lessons Learned from Foursquare

The speaker reflects on lessons learned from their experience with Foursquare.

Lessons Learned from Foursquare

• The speaker believes that one learns more from experiences that don't work out as planned or fail to achieve desired outcomes.

• They acknowledge that being close to Instagram early on influenced some strategic decisions but also highlight the importance of understanding customer needs and desires.

• Reflecting on the journey of Foursquare, they mention having scar tissue and valuable lessons from the ups and downs between 2010 and 2015.

Building a Massive Consumer App Business with Foursquare

The speaker discusses whether there was potential for building a massive consumer app business with Foursquare.

Potential of Building a Massive Consumer App Business with Foursquare

• While not providing an extensive post-mortem analysis, the speaker mentions considering this question extensively during their time at Foursquare.

• They believe that a key lesson learned was the misconception that the atomic unit of Foursquare would be a person talking about a place, rather than a person sharing experiences or moments.

• This shift in perspective may have influenced their direction and impacted their ability to compete on the social side.

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The Challenges of Replicating Functionality

In this section, the speaker discusses the challenges faced by companies like Google in replicating the functionality of successful apps such as Google Maps.

Replicating Functionality

• Google had billions of users on Android and iOS for Google Maps.

• Over time, they would replicate a lot of the functionality offered by other apps.

• Regaining momentum after losing users to replicated features is difficult.

• Luck plays a significant role in the success of companies.

Consumer Companies Pivoting to B2B

This section explores the trend of consumer companies pivoting to B2B (business-to-business) models and highlights the importance of feedback and willingness to pay for products.

Consumer Companies Pivoting to B2B

• Many consumer companies pivot to B2B because that's where the money ends up being.

• Feedback from customers regarding willingness to pay for a product is faster than building a large-scale consumer business with hopes of monetizing through ads.

• B2B offers an easier path to incremental success compared to pure consumer-focused businesses.

Working with Strong Product-Minded Founders

This section focuses on working with strong product-minded founders and shares insights on how to be successful in such positions.

Working with Strong Product-Minded Founders

• Joining a company where the CEO has expertise in your functional area can lead to great learning opportunities but may also result in feeling less agency.

• Two key factors that have worked well when working with founders like Dennis Crowley and Stuart Butterfield:

• Alignment on principles for building a great product, creating a common language within the company.

• Allowing space for teams to do creative work aligned with the overall vision, while involving the founder CEO at strategic points.

• Involving the founder CEO early on in a project ensures strategic alignment and agreement on goals and principles.

• At the end of a project, it is crucial to have the founder CEO's buy-in to ensure quality and customer satisfaction.

Importance of Alignment and Principles

This section emphasizes the importance of alignment on principles for building great products and having a common language within the company.

Alignment and Principles

• It is essential to establish alignment on principles for building great products.

• Principles help create a common language within the company, enabling better communication during product design and development.

• Without clear principles, feedback from founders can be subjective and hinder constructive reviews.

• The product founder CEO holds the vision for the company, but there should be space for teams to explore creatively within that vision.

Involvement of Founder CEO in Projects

This section discusses when and how to involve the founder CEO in projects, highlighting the importance of timing and levels of involvement.

Involvement of Founder CEO

• Involving the founder CEO early on in a project ensures strategic alignment, agreement on goals, and anti-goals.

• Giving teams space to explore creatively while aligning with high-level vision leads to better outcomes.

• At later stages, it is crucial to have full buy-in from the founder CEO regarding quality assurance before launching a product.

• Failure to involve them throughout can result in difficulties after launch due to lack of co-creation with customers.

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The Importance of Refinement and Collaboration

In this section, the speaker discusses the importance of refinement in software development and the value of collaboration among different teams.

Refining Software Development

• Refinement is an essential part of software development.

• It is important to refine code rather than relying solely on static design mocks.

• Bringing together the entire development team, including engineers, designers, product managers, and user researchers, can lead to better refinement.

• Conducting bug bashes as a group helps identify areas for improvement and enhances the overall quality of the software.

• Polish and refinement are crucial in raising the craft bar and creating a delightful user experience.

Collective Decision-Making

• Instead of having a top-down approach where the team wants to ship but the founder disagrees, it is ideal to have collective decision-making.

• The goal should be to reach a consensus on getting the product to a level that meets users' expectations.

• Creating principles or guardrails for the team can help align their thinking with that of the founder and head of product.

Principles for Building Great Software

This section focuses on principles that guide software development at companies like Foursquare and Slack.

Core Principles at Slack

• At Slack, there are five core principles that guide their software development process.

• Be a great host: Focus on providing a high level of craftsmanship and attention to detail in saving users' steps.

• Don't Make Me Think: Design software that is simple, comprehensible, and understandable without overwhelming users with unnecessary complexity.

• More clicks can often be okay: Prioritize clarity over minimizing clicks when it comes to non-transactional tasks. Help users understand what they're doing and build trust in each step.

• Catering to diverse backgrounds: Design for people from various backgrounds and cater to their needs without requiring excessive customization.

• Making people's working lives simpler, more pleasant, and more productive: Align software development with the mission of the company.

Effective Integration of AI in Product Development

The speaker shares insights on effectively integrating AI and ML into product development based on their experience working with AI-related products.

• Integrating AI and ML into products requires a thoughtful approach to avoid wasting time chasing trends.

• Over the years, the speaker has worked on various AI-related projects at companies like Google.

• Building valuable AI products involves learning from past experiences and understanding what works effectively.

• The speaker emphasizes the importance of being effective in building valuable products rather than just focusing on incorporating AI technologies.

New Section

In this section, the speaker discusses the use of natural language processing to extract information from the web and build a database of facts. The goal is to provide answers to queries in a more interactive and conversational manner.

Extracting Information with Natural Language Processing

• The speaker mentions using natural language processing to extract information from the web and create a database of facts.

• The aim is to go beyond providing traditional search results and instead offer direct answers to user queries.

New Section

This section focuses on the advancements in natural language generation, allowing computers to respond in a more human-like manner. The potential applications of this technology are vast and exciting.

Advancements in Natural Language Generation

• Natural language generation enables computers to respond in a way that feels more human-like.

• This opens up possibilities for creative and exciting applications.

New Section

The speaker reflects on their experience at Google and Slack, highlighting key principles they have followed when it comes to personalization, recommendations, UI design, transparency, and virtuous cycles.

Key Principles for Product Design

• Personalization and recommendations were important aspects at Google and Slack.

• The promise of the user interface should match the quality of underlying data.

• Transparency about data sources builds credibility with users.

• Design products with virtuous cycles that improve over time through user interactions.

New Section

The speaker emphasizes the importance of training data and feedback loops in improving predictive models. They mention Netflix as an example of a company that leverages customer feedback to enhance their recommendation system.

Training Data and Feedback Loops

• Companies like Netflix use feedback loops from customers to improve their predictive models.

• The challenge is to figure out how to incorporate feedback effectively in the context of language models.

New Section

The speaker discusses the potential of leveraging conversations within Slack channels to provide personalized and relevant information. They mention ongoing prototyping efforts in this area.

Leveraging Conversations in Slack

• Slack is exploring ways to enable users to ask questions based on conversations within the platform.

• Internal prototypes are being developed, aiming to enhance productivity by making knowledge more accessible.

New Section

The speaker highlights the importance of technologies that make it easier for companies with vast knowledge repositories in Slack channels to access and utilize that knowledge effectively.

Making Knowledge Accessible

• Technologies like natural language processing can help unlock valuable knowledge stored in Slack channels.

• Collaboration with other companies working on similar solutions is encouraged due to the vast potential of these technologies.

New Section

The speaker shares an anecdote about Spotify's vision for a seamless music experience and relates it back to the goal of creating a personalized and efficient user experience within Slack.

Striving for Personalized User Experience

• Similar to Spotify's vision, Slack aims for a personalized user experience where relevant information is readily available without extensive searching.

• While achieving this level of personalization may be challenging, it can lead to compelling projects and improved productivity.

New Section

The speaker envisions a future where Slack acts as a personal assistant, summarizing important information and providing tailored recommendations based on user preferences.

Slack as a Personal Assistant

• The goal is for Slack to provide users with a summary of relevant information in an order that aligns with their interests.

• This personalized experience would resemble having a personal Chief of Staff who knows what the user cares about and provides curated updates.

How AI Teams Work at the Company

The company has a central machine learning and search team that builds infrastructure for everyone to use. They also have multiple teams working on prototyping using this common infrastructure to solve different customer problems.

AI Team Structure

• The company has a central machine learning and search team.

• This team builds infrastructure that can be used by everyone in the company.

• Multiple teams work in parallel, focusing on different customer problems.

• These teams prototype solutions using the common infrastructure.

Hybrid Approach

• The company follows a hybrid approach to AI development.

• They have a centralized team for building infrastructure.

• Other product teams integrate AI capabilities into their roadmaps as they learn more about what the technology is capable of.

• This allows for flexibility and quick adaptation in a rapidly evolving space.

Complaint Storms: Gaining Fresh Perspectives on Product Development

The company conducts complaint storms as a process to gain fresh perspectives on their software. It helps them understand how new users might experience their products and identify pain points or areas of improvement.

Purpose of Complaint Storms

• Started around 2019 or early 2020, complaint storms aim to help the team look at their software with fresh eyes.

• As employees who work with the product all day, it's easy to become power users and lose touch with new user experiences.

• Complaint storms help build empathy for new users' perspectives and critical feedback.

Process of Complaint Storms

• A team, including founders or executives, gathers together for a complaint storm session.

• Initially, they analyze other products before moving onto their own product.

• They go through the entire customer journey, identifying confusing aspects and pain points from landing on the website to achieving value.

• This exercise generates valuable insights and ideas for improving their own product.

Benefits of Complaint Storms

• Complaint storms provide inspiration and unlock creative views of the problem space.

• It helps teams overcome dead ends or challenges they may face in their product development.

• Similar to Stripe's friction logging, complaint storms offer calibration on product pace and quality.

• It fosters collective understanding and alignment within the team.

Balancing Goals, Roadmaps, and Fixing Issues

Product managers might wonder how to balance goals, roadmaps, and fixing issues when founders and executives have additional requests. This section explores this challenge.

Challenges for Product Managers

• Product managers often face the pressure of meeting goals, following roadmaps, and addressing issues.

• Additional requests from founders and executives can create a dilemma in prioritization.

Using Complaint Storm Insights

• The insights gained from complaint storms can help product managers identify areas for improvement.

• These insights can be used to align with goals, update roadmaps, and address issues effectively.

• Complaint storms provide a fresh perspective that can guide decision-making in product development.

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Roadmap and Portfolio

The roadmap for any feature team at Slack is seen as a diversified portfolio. It aims to balance new capabilities with improving existing features.

Diversifying the Portfolio

• The roadmap should include both new capabilities and improvements to existing features.

• Balancing risky projects with potential upside and known bets.

• Differentiating between impactful features and those meant to explore new possibilities.

Customer Love Sprints

• Customer Love Sprints are two-week periods focused on making small, high-impact changes to generate more customer satisfaction.

• These sprints provide a change of pace from big feature work and prioritize small delightful improvements.

• Teams working on user-facing products typically do Customer Love Sprints once a quarter.

Delightful Product Experience

• Slack has always prioritized creating a delightful product experience.

• The company's DNA stems from the founders' background in building playful experiences.

• Hiring practices focus on bringing in individuals with consumer or game company backgrounds.

Customer Experience Team

• Slack has a dedicated Customer Experience (CE) team that handles scaled support and stays in touch with customers.

• CE shifts allow employees to understand customer frustrations and gather insights for product teams.

• CE team feedback helps prioritize addressing obstacles, pain points, and frequent complaints.

Operationalizing Delight

Slack's commitment to delighting users is ingrained in the company's DNA. This commitment is operationalized through various strategies such as customer love sprints, hiring practices, and leveraging insights from the customer experience team.

DNA of the Company

• The four co-founders initially aimed to build a massive online role-playing game called Glitch, focusing on creating delightful experiences.

• Although Glitch didn't succeed, the founders carried their passion for building consumer-grade experiences into Slack.

Hiring Practices

• Slack prioritizes hiring product managers, designers, and engineers who have not previously worked at enterprise software companies.

• Most employees come from consumer or game companies, bringing a focus on creating delightful and playful experiences.

Customer Experience Team Insights

• The CE team plays a crucial role in gathering insights from customers and identifying obstacles and pain points.

• These insights are shared with product teams to prioritize improvements that may not directly impact business metrics but contribute to overall customer satisfaction.

Competition and Learnings

Slack has faced competition from products like HipChat, Discord, and Microsoft Teams. The company's approach is centered around obsessing over customers, building products they love enough to recommend to others, and letting the rest take care of itself.

Approach to Competition

• Slack initially competed against HipChat but managed to gain market share by focusing on delivering a delightful user experience.

• Discord and Microsoft Teams have emerged as competitors in the space.

• Slack's strategy revolves around prioritizing customer satisfaction rather than solely focusing on competition.

Learnings from Competitive Space

• Working in a competitive environment provides valuable insights for understanding user needs and expectations.

• It encourages continuous improvement and innovation to stay ahead of the competition.

Competitors of Slack: Uber, HipChat, and Microsoft Teams

In this section, the speaker discusses the competitors of Slack and how they differ from each other.

Competitors of Slack

• Uber was a notorious competitor of Slack.

• Uber tried to delay customers when possible.

• HipChat was another competitor that Slack aimed to surpass.

• Slack brought innovations like a great mobile experience and consumer messaging features into the workplace.

• Discord is an interesting competitor focused on gaming and community spaces.

• Microsoft Teams originated as a defensive move to protect their profitable productivity software, Office.

• Teams has evolved into a video conferencing product competing with Zoom and Google Meet.

Focus on Work Collaboration vs. Communities

This section highlights the difference in target audience between Slack and Discord, as well as the focus on work collaboration for Slack.

Different Audiences for Slack and Discord

• Slack focuses on groups of people working together, while Discord is more community-oriented.

• Building for work collaboration requires a different approach than building for communities.

Open Ecosystem Approach and Delighting Users

The speaker discusses how slack takes an open ecosystem approach and aims to continuously delight its users.

Open Ecosystem Approach

• Slack takes an open ecosystem and platform approach.

• They focus on building the best version of what slack can be as new software for customers.

Delighting Users

• The company stays aware of competitors but remains obsessed with finding new ways to delight users over time.

Enabling Innovation at Slack

This section explores how slack enables innovation through its cultural mindset and strategic approach.

Cultural Mindset: Small Startup Mentality

• Culturally, slack strives to maintain a small startup mentality even as a larger company.

• This mindset helps foster innovation and taking bigger, bolder bets.

Strategic Approach: Taking Bigger, Bolder Bets

• Slack encourages its teams to take bigger, bolder bets rather than falling into constant incrementalism.

• The metaphor of "getting to the next hill" represents looking beyond immediate goals and exploring new possibilities.

Structural Approach: Creating New Teams for Innovation

• Slack creates new teams from scratch in emerging areas before they mature.

• Examples include native audiovisual products like huddles and clips during the pandemic.

Customer Feedback and Incubating New Ideas

This section emphasizes the importance of customer feedback in driving innovation at slack.

Listening to Customer Needs

• Slack actively seeks feedback from customers on what they wish slack could do better or what new features they desire.

Incubating New Ideas

• Based on customer feedback, slack incubates new ideas by forming dedicated teams to prototype and develop potential products.

Learning from Users and Launching Amazing Products

In this section, the speaker discusses the process of learning from users and launching impressive products.

Prototyping and Learning from Users

• The formula for success is prototyping, learning from users, piloting, and then launching a product that amazes people.

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Unique Rituals and Traditions on Product Teams

The speaker shares interesting rituals and traditions within product teams.

• At all hands meetings, they often share specific tweets about their product. These tweets can range from heartwarming customer love to frustrating complaints. It helps them stay connected to user feedback.

• User research plays a crucial role in keeping the team grounded in actual user experiences. They conduct usability sessions where PMs, engineers, designers, and user researchers participate via Slack threads to observe real-time thoughts and reactions. This approach provides valuable insights into improving the product.

Plateau in Self-service Business at Slack

The speaker discusses a period when the self-service business at Slack plateaued and how they addressed the issue.

• Around 2019, there was a plateau in the self-service business at Slack. It took some time to understand the reasons behind it.

• Initially, Slack experienced significant growth through self-service from 2014 to 2017. However, as they expanded their sales and enterprise teams, the focus shifted towards driving enterprise deals. This led to less emphasis on self-service growth.

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Understanding Customer Needs and Shifting Focus

In this section, the speaker discusses the challenge of understanding customer needs as the company transitioned from early adopters to a broader market.

Transitioning to Different Customer Needs

• The company realized that it was becoming harder to understand what the next generation of customers wanted from their product.

• They needed to shift their focus from optimizing for early adopters to meeting the needs of a wider customer base.

• Researching cohort curves provided insights into the changing customer landscape.

Changing Approach and Hypotheses

• Instead of continuing to optimize what had worked in the past, they decided to throw away their roadmap and come up with new hypotheses based on insights about the next set of customers.

• The goal was to quickly learn which new levers would be effective and which ones were not.

• They acknowledged that this approach might not drive immediate impact but would lead to long-term success.

Improving Comprehension and Desirability

This section focuses on two key aspects: comprehension (understanding how Slack works) and desirability (why users should care about using Slack).

Comprehension and Desirability Challenges

• Once past the early adopter stage, new users or teams need to comprehend what Slack is for and how it works.

• Desirability is crucial because most people at work are not motivated to start using a completely new tool unless they see its value.

Freemium Product Strategy

• While Slack had a freemium product with a free tier, they hadn't figured out a trial strategy that gave users a taste of the paid product.

• Developing ways to provide users with an experience of the full premium Slack offering became an important focus area.

Introducing a New Metric: Successful Teams

The speaker discusses the need for a new metric to motivate teams across Slack and how they identified "successful teams" as a key metric.

Need for a New Metric

• At that time, Slack had paid customers and created-to-use users, but they needed a new North Star metric to motivate teams.

• They wanted to find a metric that would drive upgrades, pay customers, and revenue in the long term.

Successful Teams Metric

• Through quantitative research and data science analysis, they identified "successful teams" as the new metric.

• A successful team was defined as having at least five people using Slack for communication throughout their work week.

• Achieving this level of critical mass led to higher chances of team upgrades and ultimately drove revenue growth.

Key Takeaways from the Journey

The speaker reflects on important lessons learned during their journey, including the importance of an activation metric predictive of retention.

Importance of Activation Metrics

• Having an activation metric that predicts user retention is crucial for long-term success.

• Finding metrics like successful teams helped rally product teams around driving self-service business.

Analyzing Lessons Learned

• The speaker mentions that there are many takeaways from their journey that could be analyzed further.

• They highlight the significance of comprehension, desirability, trial strategies, and finding effective metrics to motivate teams.

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Product Market Fit and Audience Expansion

In this section, the speaker discusses the concept of product-market fit and the importance of expanding the target audience to sustain growth.

Understanding Product Market Fit

• Product market fit is like stacking S curves, where exponential growth occurs when you crack a specific audience segment.

• However, as you reach the ceiling with that segment, you need to find new audiences to continue growing.

• Each new audience requires building product market fit specifically for them.

• It is important to be self-critical, humble, and maintain a beginner's mindset to identify the needs of the next audience.

Balancing Messaging/Positioning and Product Features

• In the early stages, around 60% of efforts were focused on messaging, positioning, onboarding optimization, and other aspects related to user experience.

• The remaining 40% was dedicated to developing product features that would make it comprehensible and valuable for the next generation of customers.

Foundational Product Investments for Audience Expansion

This section highlights some foundational product investments made by Slack to cater to different audiences and ensure their value proposition was not overwhelming.

Examples of Foundational Product Investments

• Slack introduced WYSIWYG message composition instead of using markdown language.

• Making mobile functionality work offline globally was crucial for users in various locations.

• Configuring sidebar notifications became essential as user bases scaled up.

Lessons from Slack's Growth Journey

The speaker reflects on what made Slack successful in terms of product-led growth and offers insights for founders today.

Building a Loved Product with Easy Adoption

• Slack's success came before the term "product-led growth" existed.

• The core factor behind their success was building a product that customers loved enough to advocate for it within their organizations.

• The product had to be easy to use and provide value without the need for salespeople or complex onboarding processes.

Cracking Different Audiences

• Slack successfully catered to two distinct audiences: small companies (5-50 people) and teams within larger enterprises.

• Small companies found Slack valuable for their entire organization, while larger companies had individual teams adopting it independently.

• This dual approach helped power Slack's growth in both SMBs and enterprise markets.

The Power of Product-Led Growth

The speaker emphasizes the impact of product-led growth and how it fueled Slack's success.

Leveraging Social Capital and Ease of Use

• Customers' love for Slack led them to recommend it to their colleagues, leveraging their social capital.

• Slack's ease of use allowed individuals to adopt it within their teams without requiring extensive approvals or sales involvement.

Two Different Audiences

• Slack's success with product-led growth was evident in both small companies (SMBs) and larger enterprises.

• Initially targeting SMBs (5-50 people), they later expanded into teams within larger companies, driving further growth.

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Building a Product People Want to Share

In this section, the speaker discusses the importance of creating a product that people want to share with their colleagues. They highlight the concept of word-of-mouth marketing and how it contributes to the success of a company.

Importance of Word-of-Mouth Marketing

• Successful companies focus on building products that people want to share with their friends.

• Word-of-mouth is a powerful marketing tool for generating growth and customer love.

• Even in enterprise categories like security or compliance, if a product is remarkable, people will still recommend it to others.

• In today's saturated marketing landscape, word-of-mouth and customer-driven growth are essential for scaling a business.

Slack as an Example

• Slack is cited as an example of a successful product that people love to share with their friends.

• The initial rollout of Slack at Airbnb resulted in designers getting excited about it and spreading its usage through word-of-mouth.

Strategies for Building a Successful Product

• Initially, building for oneself or similar target users is easier but as the customer base diversifies, feedback from real customers becomes crucial.

• Slack implemented experimentation in their product development process and scaled up by rolling out new functionality to real customers through pilot programs.

• Gathering feedback from diverse customers helps ensure product-market fit and build confidence in new features before launch.

Tips for Creating Customer Feedback Programs

• Include diversity in terms of industry, company size, location, etc., when selecting participants for feedback programs.

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The Importance of Diversity and Tolerance

In this section, the speaker discusses the importance of diversity and tolerance in product development.

Diversity and Building Products

• Building products that people really want is easier in B2B because customers are motivated to solve their problems.

• It's important to have a longer-term vision and time horizon as a product manager.

• Immersing oneself in the problem space helps bring inspiration and ideas back to the team.

• Having a diverse team with different perspectives can lead to better product development.

Traits of Great Product Managers

The speaker discusses the traits of great product managers based on a famous blog post on product management.

Traits of Great Product Managers

• "Live in the future and work backwards" - having a longer-term vision is crucial for success as a PM.

• Facilitating ideas, creating momentum, and amplifying the work of the team are important roles for a PM.

• Good PMs can help teams do their best work by providing support and guidance.

• Being adaptable, empathetic, and having strong communication skills are essential traits for successful product managers.

Long-Term Vision and Time Horizon

The speaker emphasizes the importance of having a long-term vision and time horizon as a product manager.

Long-Term Vision

• Carving out time to think beyond short-term goals is crucial for success as a PM.

• Immersing oneself in the problem space helps generate ideas for future products or features.

• Living in the future allows PMs to anticipate customer needs before they arise.

Amplifying Your Team's Work

The speaker discusses the role of a product manager in amplifying the work of their team.

Amplifying Team's Work

• Product managers should adopt a facilitator mindset and focus on amplifying the work of their team.

• Good PMs can help teams do their best work by providing support, guidance, and creating momentum.

• Having a good PM on the team is valuable as they can facilitate ideas and enhance collaboration.

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The Role of a Product Manager

In this section, the speaker discusses the role of a product manager and highlights the importance of being a leader and facilitator rather than a dictator. They also emphasize the need for effective decision-making and facilitating the team's progress.

The Role of a Product Manager

• Being a product manager is about being a leader and facilitator, not acting like a dictator. It is important to avoid power struggles within the team.

• A product manager's job is to facilitate the pace and quality of decision-making, rather than making all decisions themselves.

• Early on, product managers may struggle with finding ways to enable their teams to make high-quality decisions quickly without always playing tie-breaker.

• The core job of a product manager is to figure out what's next for every person on the team and help them make decisions and overcome obstacles.

• Impeccable execution is essential for a product manager. They should be organized, follow up on tasks, set clear expectations, and manage timelines effectively.

• Focusing on impact is crucial for long-term success as a product manager. This includes delivering value to customers and driving positive changes in the business direction.

• Building things that people love and creating impact should be the primary focus for product managers. Other aspects are just inputs towards achieving this goal.

• Writing well is an important skill for senior-level product managers as it allows them to have influence in larger product organizations.

Additional Resources

• "On Writing" by Stephen King - A book recommended by the speaker that provides insights into writing high-quality content efficiently.

Driving Impact as a Product Manager

In this section, the speaker emphasizes the importance of driving impact as a product manager. They discuss how consistently building products that customers love and aligning with the business direction can lead to success. The speaker also shares insights on execution and the importance of clear communication.

Driving Impact as a Product Manager

• Driving impact is crucial for product managers' success. Consistently building products that people love and positively impacting the business are key.

• The ability to drive impact lies in understanding the team's direction and aligning efforts towards achieving it.

• If a product manager's career is not progressing as desired, it is often because they are not delivering sufficient impact to the company.

• Execution plays a significant role in driving impact. A great product manager should have an aura of reliability, ensuring tasks are completed without dropping any balls.

• Clear communication is essential for managing expectations and prioritizing tasks effectively. It is important to inform others when certain tasks cannot be completed within given timelines.

Additional Resources

• "On Writing Well" - Another book recommended by the speaker that provides tips on improving writing skills by cutting unnecessary content.

Conclusion

In this transcript, the speaker discusses various aspects of being a successful product manager. They highlight the importance of leadership, facilitation, decision-making, execution, driving impact, and effective communication. By focusing on these areas, product managers can excel in their roles and contribute significantly to their teams and organizations.

Writing Better and Optimizing for Learning

The speaker discusses the importance of writing better to make content more appealing to readers. They also emphasize the significance of optimizing for the pace of learning in order to drive long-term impact.

Writing Better and Making Content Appealing

• Nobody wants to read poorly written content.

• Recommendations for improving writing:

• Read "The War of Art" by an author whose name is forgotten but highly recommended.

• Read "Several Short Sentences About Writing" or similar books that focus on writing short sentences.

Optimizing for Learning and Driving Impact

• Importance of optimizing for the pace of learning.

• Challenges faced by product managers in big companies with narrow focus.

• Need to think beyond immediate responsibilities and consider broader potential impact.

• Willingness to take risks and learn from failures in the short term for long-term success.

• Interview example with a product leader at Asana, Paige Costello, who excels by having insights and answers in meetings.

Data Fluency and Product Taste

The speaker discusses the importance of data fluency and combining it with great product taste. They highlight how understanding customer insights can inform better product decisions, emphasizing that product management is a creative field.

Data Fluency and Customer Insights

• Data fluency goes beyond statistical knowledge; it involves understanding customer insights.

• Various types of data sources:

• Quantitative data

• Surveys

• Direct customer interactions through meetings

• Being fluent in data helps make informed product decisions.

Product Taste as a Creative Field

• Product management is a creative field influenced by art.

• Book recommendation: "Creative Selection" (exact title may vary) about iterative creative work at Apple during iPhone development.

• Developing intuition for what customers will love before testing it.

• Combining taste with data fluency is a powerful combination.

Attributes for Early and Senior Product Managers

The speaker discusses important attributes for early career product managers and senior product leaders.

Attributes for Early Career Product Managers

• Execution skills are crucial, as they demonstrate productivity and reliability.

• Building impact, even if it is more localized, helps establish credibility.

• Fluency in data and research enables providing valuable insights to the team.

Attributes for Senior Product Leaders

• Decision-making skills become more important at this level.

• Focus on making well-informed decisions based on available information.

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The Role of a Product Founder

In this section, the speaker discusses the role of a product founder and their responsibilities in realizing the ultimate vision and longer-term strategy of a company.

Responsibilities of a Product Founder

• The product founder is responsible for the ultimate vision of the company.

• They also focus on meeting the longer-term strategy to realize that vision.

• As a product founder, one can dedicate more time to thinking about the longer-term strategy rather than being involved in day-to-day operations.

Importance of Writing Skills

This section highlights the importance of being a good writer as a high leverage usage of time to influence an organization's product direction and principles.

Importance of Writing Skills

• Being a good writer is crucial for influencing an organization, especially if one doesn't spend all day in meetings.

• It allows scaling one's ability to influence product direction and development principles.

• Writing skills help in communicating ideas effectively and shaping the overall strategy.

Lightning Round Questions

In this lightning round, six questions are asked to gain insights into book recommendations, favorite movies or TV shows, interview questions, and favorite products discovered recently.

Book Recommendations

• "Innovator's Dilemma" by Clayton Christensen and "Crossing the Chasm" by Geoffrey A. Moore are recommended books on product strategy.

• "Radical Candor" by Kim Scott is highly regarded for its insights on soft influence as a product manager.

• "Leadership in Turbulent Times" by Doris Kearns Goodwin explores leadership styles during critical periods in history.

Favorite Movie or TV Show

The speaker shares their favorite recent movie or TV show, mentioning "Succession" as a highly recommended show for its Shakespearean level drama. They also mention "The Bear" as a less common choice with incredible cinematography.

Favorite Interview Question

The speaker discusses their favorite interview question, which focuses on uncovering unfair secrets that improve the velocity and energy level of a product.

Favorite Interview Question

• The speaker likes to ask candidates about the unfair secrets they have learned to enhance the product's velocity and energy.

• This question aims to discover unique insights and approaches that may not be commonly known or found in books.

Favorite Product Discovered

The speaker shares their favorite recently discovered products related to parenting, including an AI-enabled camera called Nanit for monitoring babies' sleep, a device called Snoo for soothing infants while they sleep, and an elaborate stroller system called Uppababy.

Favorite Parenting Products

• Nanit is an AI-enabled camera that provides sleep analytics and helps parents be less anxious.

• Snoo is a device that soothes babies during sleep, allowing parents to get more rest.

• Uppababy offers an intricately designed stroller system suitable for both car travel and everyday use.

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Naming the Future Baby

In this section, the speaker discusses how they and their spouse came up with a name for their future baby.

• The speaker and their spouse had three or four final name contenders for their baby.

• To help them decide, they decided to refer to the baby by one of the names for an entire week.

• This allowed them to get a feel for each name and ultimately helped them narrow down their choices.

Impactful Changes in Product Development at Slack

The speaker talks about a minor change in product development at Slack that had a significant impact on execution.

• The biggest change was shifting focus from spending time on design explorations to quickly prototyping in real software.

• Instead of spending months on design debates, they focused on how the software feels and functions.

• This cultural shift helped avoid unnecessary delays and improved execution.

Importance of Prototyping in Software Development

The speaker emphasizes the importance of prototyping in software development at Slack.

• Rather than relying solely on static mocks or walkthroughs, they prioritize getting into prototyping as quickly as possible.

• They believe it is crucial to live, touch, and experience the software rather than just looking at it.

• This approach helps avoid lengthy design debates and allows them to focus on how the software operates.

Favorite Slack Pro Tips

The speaker shares two favorite tips for using Slack effectively.

• Customizing the sidebar can greatly improve organization. Users can create sections, set different display settings (e.g., show unread only), and collapse sections for better management.

• Utilizing the quick switcher feature allows users to navigate and perform actions quickly by typing commands or keywords. It enhances productivity and feels like playing a video game.

Connecting with the Speaker Online

The speaker provides information on how to connect with them online and offers suggestions for engaging with Slack.

• The speaker can be found online at @no_weiss (Twitter handle).

• They welcome feedback and feature requests, especially regarding convincing others in their company to join Slack.

• Engaging with the speaker's online presence can help contribute valuable insights and ideas for improving Slack.

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