Piers Morgan vs Stormy Daniels | The Full Interview

Introduction

In this section, Stormy Daniels is introduced and talks about how it feels to be the most famous woman on Earth.

Stormy's Fame

• Stormy Daniels talks about how it feels terrifying and surreal to be the most famous woman on Earth.

• She mentions that people think they know her, but very few actually do.

Going Through a Political Maelstrom

In this section, Stormy Daniels discusses what it was like for her to go through an extraordinary political maelstrom.

Shocking Explosion

• Stormy talks about how shocking it was when she became instantly famous overnight.

• She mentions that her fan base switched, and she started getting attention from a completely different demographic than before.

Misconceptions and Shock

• Stormy discusses how being treated inhumanely was next level shocking for her.

• She mentions that people started calling her crazy things like a hero and champion for the Me Too movement.

Female Empowerment

• Many high-profile women find Stormy admirable because of the way she stood up to power and defended her industry.

• It has been nice for her to see many women come around and support her, especially those who work in the adult industry.

You Can't Shame Somebody Who's Been Seen Naked Everywhere

In this section, Stormy Daniels talks about misconceptions surrounding people who work in the adult industry.

Smart Women in Adult Industry

• Some of the smartest women she has met have been in the adult industry.

• Stormy mentions that you can't shame somebody who's been seen naked everywhere.

Trump's Criminal Charges

In this section, Stormy Daniels talks about Donald Trump's criminal charges and her reaction to them.

Anti-Climactic

• Stormy talks about how it was anti-climactic for her when she saw Trump in court.

• She thought she would feel excited and vindicated, but it was not the case.

Divisive Situation

• Stormy mentions that no matter what happens, it will be more divisive for the country.

• She discusses how seeing him under the rule of someone else made her feel like he had to obey.

Stormy Daniels Interview

In this interview, Stormy Daniels discusses her feelings about the impact of her case on American history and democracy. She also talks about the possibility of testifying in court and whether she wants to see Donald Trump jailed.

Impact of the Case

• Stormy Daniels feels sad that her case has become a moment in American history.

• She acknowledges that if Donald Trump hadn't paid her money through his lawyer, he wouldn't be sitting in court.

• Stormy believes that she is not responsible for all of Trump's bad behavior or charges against him.

• There is an argument that there isn't enough evidence to justify putting a former president through this process.

Testifying in Court

• If called to testify, Stormy looks forward to it because she has nothing to hide and wants to legitimize her story.

• She doesn't think Trump's crimes against her are worthy of incarceration but would like to see him jailed for other things if found guilty.

Overall, Stormy Daniels discusses the impact of her case on American history and democracy. She also talks about the possibility of testifying in court and whether she wants to see Donald Trump jailed.

Political Bias and Progress in the Justice System

In this section, Stormy Daniels and Joe Rogan discuss the political bias surrounding Trump's indictment and how it compares to scandals involving other politicians. They also touch on progress made in the justice system for women.

Comparing Scandals of Different Politicians

• Trump suggests that there may be a political bias against him, as other Democrat politicians have had similar or worse scandals but were not indicted.

• Stormy wonders if those same scandals would be treated differently today, given progress made in the justice system and society's attitude towards women post #MeToo movement.

Holding People Accountable

• Stormy believes that everyone should be held accountable for their actions, regardless of their status or position of power.

• She acknowledges that Trump's scandal involves a woman speaking out against someone in power, which historically has been met with criticism rather than support.

Stormy's Political Affiliation

In this section, Joe Rogan asks about Stormy Daniels' political affiliation and whether she is deliberately trying to derail Donald Trump's 2024 presidential campaign.

Stormy's Political History

• Joe reveals that Stormy used to be a registered Republican but did not vote for Trump in 2016.

• Stormy explains that she got involved with politics because of the draft stormy campaign in 2009 when her name and pictures were used without permission.

Allowing Indicted Individuals to Run for President

• Both Joe and Stormy are surprised to learn that there is no rule preventing an indicted individual from running for president.

• Stormy finds it absurd that someone could be convicted and go to prison but still be president of the United States.

Public Perception of Stormy Daniels

In this section, Joe Rogan reads a quote from Jenna Jameson about how both the left and right view Stormy Daniels.

Public Perception of Stormy

• Jenna Jameson believes that the left uses Stormy to discredit Trump while the right sees her as a treacherous rat.

• Joe asks for Stormy's response to this statement.

Using Her Story for Political Gain

In this section, the speaker talks about how her story was used by different groups for their own gain.

Democrats and Me Too Movement

• The speaker mentions that the Democrats and Me Too movement tried to use her story to fit their own agenda.

Shameful Behavior of a Former Colleague

• The speaker expresses disappointment in a former colleague who told her to keep quiet. She believes that this woman should be ashamed of herself, especially since she has a daughter.

Trump's Denial and Inconsistencies

This section focuses on Donald Trump's denial of having sex with the speaker and inconsistencies in his position.

Trump's Plea and Payment

• Donald Trump pled not guilty to all charges but never explained why he ended up paying $130,000 to the speaker's lawyer over a decade later. There is an inconsistency in his position.

Paid for Sex?

• The speaker questions whether she was paid for sex since there was no transaction at the time of the encounter. She also mentions that some people accused her of being a prostitute which led to backlash from sex workers and escorts who were angry at her for ruining business.

Irrefutable Evidence Ignored

This section discusses how despite presenting irrefutable evidence, people still refuse to believe the truth.

Facts vs Opinions

• The speaker acknowledges that people are entitled to their opinions but facts cannot be changed. She finds it frustrating when people ignore irrefutable evidence just because they don't want to believe it.

Meeting with Personal Involvement

• The speaker mentions that she has a personal involvement in one part of the meeting but doesn't reveal what it is until later. She finds it interesting and has many questions.

Indictment on Her Birthday

This section talks about how the speaker found out about Donald Trump's indictment.

DA's Office Contact

• The speaker's attorney informed her that the DA's office wanted to talk to her and asked if she could testify. However, she didn't end up having to do so.

Disappointment and Quietness

• After not hearing anything for a while, the speaker forgot about it until she heard her phone going off while riding her horse named Redemption. She was disappointed when nothing happened after being contacted by the DA's office and thought that Trump would get away with it again.

Stormy Daniels' Reaction to Trump's Indictment

In this section, Stormy Daniels discusses her initial reaction to the news of Trump's indictment and how she felt about it.

Mixed Emotions

• Stormy initially felt ecstatic and excited when she heard about Trump's indictment.

• However, after sitting with the news for a while, she realized that there was no cause for joy in the fact that someone in office had so much power to cause division.

• The bigger picture is that truth and justice must prevail.

Vindication

• If this goes to trial, it could lead to Stormy being vindicated about telling the truth.

• Trump has repeatedly called her a liar, but this would be proof that she was telling the truth all along.

Threats Against Stormy Daniels

In this section, Stormy Daniels talks about the threats she has received since going public with her story.

Death Threats

• Stormy is used to getting horrible messages every day, but now it's different.

• She receives one death threat for every ten messages.

• They are more specific and graphic than before and come from actual phone numbers, emails or Twitter accounts.

Tone of Messages

• The tone of messages has changed from just calling her a liar or gold digger to more serious threats like killing her family or setting fire to her house.

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Meeting Donald Trump

In this section, Stormy Daniels talks about her encounter with Donald Trump at a golf tournament in Lake Tahoe.

Introduction to Donald Trump

• Stormy Daniels was hired to host a gifting sweet stand at a golf tournament in Lake Tahoe.

• She ended up in a golf cart with Donald Trump and two other girls.

• Stormy didn't speak directly to him other than pleasantries.

Invited to Dinner

• Stormy was invited up to Donald Trump's Suite which is at the top of the Harah resort and casino hotel.

• She was invited to have dinner to talk about a business thing.

• When she got there, he was in his pajamas and that's when she made fun of him.

• He immediately changed and was a perfect gentleman.

Business Talk

• They discussed the adult entertainment business, particularly how many royalties she made off the films.

• At first, he was arrogant but they eventually had a good conversation.

Meeting with Donald Trump

In this section, the speaker talks about their meeting with Donald Trump and how they discussed business ideas.

Discussing Business Ideas

• The speaker had a conversation with Donald Trump about business ideas.

• They talked about his golf course and some condos he was building.

• The conversation included questions about the adult industry and pay brackets for scenes.

• They also discussed The Apprentice, which was originally Donald's idea.

Winning Celebrity Apprentice

In this section, the speaker talks about winning Celebrity Apprentice and their relationship with Donald Trump during the show.

Winning Celebrity Apprentice

• The speaker won Celebrity Apprentice after taking part in a series that Donald offered them.

• They reveal to the interviewer that they took their part on the show.

• When asked if they would have beaten Donald, they respond by saying they don't know.

Relationship with Donald During Show

• The speaker liked working with Donald during Celebrity Apprentice.

• There was no flirting or leering from him during their conversations.

Controversial Event at Hotel Room

In this section, the speaker talks about an event that occurred in a hotel room involving them and Donald Trump.

Event Description

• The speaker describes an event where they were alone in a hotel room with Donald Trump who was only wearing underwear doing a Burt Reynolds impression.

• They do not understand how they got from the doorway to being underneath him in the bed.

• They remember thinking about Donald's bodyguard who was right outside the door and what would happen if they hit him.

Clarification

• The speaker clarifies that everything that happened was consensual.

• They mention that people have made assumptions based on what they said, but it was all consensual.

The Gray Area of Consent

In this section, the speaker talks about her experience with a man and how it was not non-consensual but also not consensual. She discusses the gray area of consent and how it is still something she wrestles with.

The Gold Shoes

• The speaker talks about how she had gold shoes with buckles that were a pain to put on.

• She remembers taking them off because she had to put them back on again.

• She did not say no, but she also did not say yes.

Wrestling with Consent

• The speaker discusses the gray area of consent and whether or not men are getting punished for things that may be unclear.

• She froze during the encounter and did not lead him on or flirt with him.

• The speaker admits that she is still wrestling with what constitutes consent and non-consent.

Aftermath

In this section, the speaker talks about what happened after the encounter and how people reacted to it.

Leaving Afterwards

• The speaker left within five minutes after the sex part was over.

• She felt nauseous and mad at herself for misreading the situation.

People's Reactions

• Many people knew where she was going that night, including seven people before she even went to his room.

• He called her weekly afterwards, which was not a secret.

Meeting Him Again

In this section, the speaker talks about meeting the man again and how she felt about it.

Meeting Him Again

• The speaker met him a number of times afterwards.

• She was careful not to be put in that situation again and her skin crawled when she saw him.

His Wife

• The speaker asked him about his wife on the first night but did not think anything was going to happen.

Sharing Photos and Celebrity Apprentice

In this section, the conversation revolves around sharing photos of children and the possibility of Omarosa appearing on Celebrity Apprentice.

Sharing Photos

• People share photos of their kids.

• Omarosa began to feel differently about sharing photos after having her own child.

Celebrity Apprentice

• Trump invited Omarosa to appear on Celebrity Apprentice.

• Trump was serious about wanting Omarosa on the show.

• NBC was not prepared to take the risk of having Omarosa on the show.

• Trump wanted the press and to be known as a genius for casting great TV.

Blaming Women in Affairs

This section discusses how women are often blamed in affairs while men are not held accountable.

Blaming Women

• People tend to blame women in affairs but rarely blame men.

• A tweet directed at Omarosa questioned why she slept with a man who had a wife.

• Omarosa responded by questioning why he invited her to his room knowing he had a wife.

Trump's Motive for Wanting Omarosa on Celebrity Apprentice

This section delves deeper into Trump's motive for wanting Omarosa on Celebrity Apprentice.

Motive for Wanting Omarosa on Show

• Trump felt sympathy towards Ivanka because of how she was treated due to her looks.

• He thought that having someone like Ivanka would make great TV.

• He wanted the press and recognition for being a genius at casting great TV shows.

Meeting with Trump at Beverly Hills Hotel

This section covers when and where Omarosa met with Donald Trump regarding Celebrity Apprentice.

Meeting with Donald Trump

• The meeting took place at Beverly Hills Hotel in July 2007.

• Trump was serious about wanting Omarosa on the show.

• Omarosa did not have sex with Trump at the Beverly Hills Hotel because she didn't want to.

• Trump wanted to know how long Omarosa was in town and when they could meet up again.

Background Information

In this section, the speaker talks about how she heard a rumor that someone's wife had an issue with her and how she stopped talking to the person who proposed to her.

• The speaker heard a rumor that someone's wife had an issue with her.

• The speaker got more serious with the guys at the time and then he proposed.

• The speaker stopped answering his calls and didn't hear from him for a long time. He called one other time to apologize for something related to Jenna Jameson.

Decision to Tell Her Story

In this section, the speaker talks about why she decided to tell her story six years later.

• The speaker agreed to tell her story because someone had sold it and they were sniffing around. She was given the option of telling her version and getting paid or having someone else tell their version and not getting paid.

• The story was going to come out anyway, so the speaker decided to take back control by telling it herself.

• After taking a polygraph test, which she passed, the story never ran because Donald Trump's attorney threatened to sue In Touch magazine.

Threatening Encounter

In this section, the speaker talks about being threatened in a car park in Vegas after deciding not to tell her story.

• A man came up to the speaker in a car park in Vegas and threatened her directly. He told her to leave Trump alone and forget about telling her story or something might happen to her daughter.

Meeting Donald Trump

In this section, Stormy Daniels talks about meeting Donald Trump and her initial impressions of him.

First Impressions

• Stormy remembers thinking that Donald was cute when she first met him.

• She also thought he was handsome and nice-looking.

• When asked why she didn't report the incident to the police, Stormy says it's because she wanted it to go away.

• Stormy did not worry about what had happened because Donald had told her he never wanted to be president.

Thoughts on Trump Running for President

In this section, Stormy Daniels talks about her thoughts on Donald Trump running for president.

Reaction to Announcement

• When asked if she ever thought he could win, Stormy says she didn't even think he was actually running for president.

• She thought it was another one of his stunts like being on The Apprentice or WWE.

Winning the Nomination

• When Donald won the nomination, Stormy rolled her eyes but did not worry about what had happened in the past.

Access Hollywood Tape

• When asked about the Access Hollywood tape, Stormy says that it could have been either genuine or locker room banter.

The Beginning

In this section, the speaker talks about how she didn't want her story to come out and how a friend approached her with an NDA.

Reluctance to Come Forward

• The speaker did not want her story to come out.

• A friend who is an attorney suggested that she should say something about her relationship with Donald Trump.

• The speaker was not worried about it until Trump got the nomination and his whole tone changed.

NDA Offer

• The friend suggested that the speaker sign an NDA and receive payment so that there would be a paper trail and no one could hurt her.

• The friend also asked why the speaker was the only woman, but the speaker believed it was because she was famous.

• When asked if she tried to contact Trump after he became president, the speaker said no.

Becoming President

In this section, the interviewer asks how the speaker felt when Trump became president.

Reality Show Presidency

• The speaker did not know how to feel when Trump became president because America had become a reality show.

Lawsuit and Release from NDA

In this section, the interviewer asks about the lawsuit against Trump and Cohen regarding the NDA.

Lawsuit Details

• The Wall Street Journal reported on the deal in January 2018.

• The case was dismissed in favor of the speaker because Trump had not signed anything and they had broken stipulations in the NDA three times before she did.

• The speaker issued a letter stating that both parties had denied the affair's existence multiple times.

Conclusion

This transcript covers the speaker's reluctance to come forward, the NDA offer, how she felt when Trump became president, and details about her lawsuit against Trump and Cohen.

Stormy Daniels on the NDA and Defamation Suit

In this section, Stormy Daniels discusses the NDA and defamation suit related to her alleged affair with Donald Trump.

Signing the NDA

• Stormy Daniels signed an NDA because she was told that if she didn't, she would be sued for $20 million.

• She signed the letter even though Michael Cohen wrote it and had her sign it under duress.

The Letter's Validity

• People have been questioning the validity of a letter that Stormy Daniels signed. However, she explains that it was notarized or endorsed.

• She also clarifies that she did not break the NDA by signing it because if she hadn't, then she would have broken it.

Defamation Suit

• After Michael Avenatti released a sketch of a man who threatened her in Vegas, Donald Trump accused her of inventing the incident. As a result, Stormy sued him for defamation.

• Although Stormy lost the defamation suit due to Trump's First Amendment right to free speech being upheld on appeal, she believes that if he wasn't President and if she wasn't a porn star, then things would have turned out differently.

Stormy Daniels Interview with BBC Newsnight

In this interview, Stormy Daniels discusses her experience with President Trump and the legal battles that followed.

Being Called "Horse Face" by the President

• When asked about being called "horse face" by President Trump, Stormy laughs it off and says she doesn't actually look like a horse.

• She explains that his insult was essentially outing himself as having a penchant for bestiality, given that he had repeatedly pursued her for sex.

• Stormy comments on the irony of spending some of the $130,000 hush money payment on a horse trailer.

Legal Battles and Refusing to Pay

• Stormy discusses how she has been ordered to pay over $600,000 in legal fees related to her defamation case against Trump. She has not paid anything yet and is prepared to go to jail rather than give him money.

• While acknowledging that Trump's attorneys are owed money for their work, Stormy argues that she should not have to pay because he was the one lying in the case.

Karen McDougal and Playboy Party

• Stormy recounts meeting Karen McDougal at a Trump vodka party in Hollywood. She did not know who Karen was at the time but shook hands with her when introduced by Trump.

• When asked about Karen receiving a $150,000 payoff from Trump, Stormy says she wasn't surprised and expected there would be more women coming forward.

Life Now

• Overall, Stormy describes her life as interesting and never boring. She enjoys writing and directing movies.

Being a Mother in the Adult Entertainment Industry

In this section, the speaker talks about being a mother while working in the adult entertainment industry and how it affected her relationship with her daughter.

Balancing Work and Motherhood

• The speaker had to stay away from her daughter for long periods of time to keep her safe.

• She feels upset about missing out on time with her daughter, but hopes that she has created a safer world for her to speak up if needed.

• The speaker's daughter thinks she is a hero.

Emotional Moment with Daughter

In this section, the speaker shares an emotional moment with her daughter when she showed her the first physical copy of her book.

Emotional Moment

• The speaker's daughter was emotional when she saw that the book was dedicated to her.

• The speaker apologized for not being able to see her more often, but her daughter understood that there were other girls who needed help more than she did at that time.

Personal Life Update

In this section, the speaker talks about personal updates in their life including their daughter's achievements and their marriage.

Daughter's Achievements

• The speaker's daughter is doing well in school and is also an artist.

Marriage Update

• The speaker married someone who was also in the adult entertainment industry.

• They met before either of them entered the industry and reconnected later on set.

• They worked together frequently before he became a director of photography.

• He eventually confessed his love for her and they got married.

First Male Co-Star

In this section, the speaker talks about working with her first male co-star in the adult entertainment industry.

Working with First Male Co-Star

• The speaker's first male co-star was someone she had a crush on before they worked together.

• They ended up working together frequently and he eventually wanted to have sex with her.

• He later became a director of photography and shot many of the speaker's movies.

Stormy Daniels Interview

In this interview, Stormy Daniels talks about her relationship with her husband and how they got together. She also discusses her upbringing and the neglectful relationship she had with her mother.

Relationship with Husband

• When Stormy and her husband started dating, they thought everyone would be surprised because they were both in the porn industry.

• However, when they went to their first event together, nobody was surprised and everyone was supportive.

• They got married on the 24th anniversary of the day they first met.

True Love

• Stormy describes her love for her husband as deeper than any other love she has experienced before.

• She explains that he is not only a lover but also a friend, co-worker, and family member who understands and accepts her for who she is.

Upbringing

• Stormy talks about being raised by a neglectful mother and having a rocky relationship with her throughout her life.

• Although they have gone on and off over the years, Stormy has not spoken to her mother since the day her daughter was born because she realized that she deserved better than to have someone like that in her life.

Identity

• When asked if her parents ever told her they loved her, Stormy hesitates but eventually says yes.

• She also talks about discovering that some baby pictures sold by a British publication were not actually of herself but rather someone else's child.

Stage Name

• Stormy explains that Stephanie Clifford is one of her married names, but she prefers to go by her stage name because she created it herself.

Stormy Daniels Interview

In this interview, Stormy Daniels talks about her values and personality traits. She also discusses her feelings towards Donald Trump and the possibility of being vindicated in court.

Values and Personality Traits

• Stormy describes herself as a writer, director, and someone who values truthfulness.

• She admits to giving people too many chances and having a hard time saying no when someone needs help.

• Despite being tough, she is also emotional and cries easily.

• Stormy mentions an old interview where she said "karma will always bite you in the ass" to Donald Trump. She now feels sorry for him.

Feelings Towards Donald Trump

• Stormy says she doesn't hate Donald Trump anymore despite what he did to her.

• She believes that he may have been manipulated more than people realize.

• If given the chance to speak with him, she would tell him to tell the truth because his actions set a bad precedent for others.

Vindication in Court

• Stormy thinks that even if the case goes to trial, there will still be people who refuse to believe her side of the story.

• However, she believes that it will be a giant step closer towards vindication if it does go to trial.

• Some people are just unwilling to admit they were wrong or that he lies.

Queen of Bad Decisions?

• In high school, Stormy wrote "We'll all get along as soon as you realize that I am queen" in her yearbook.

• She believes that standing up for what is right, even if it comes at a cost, shows strength of character.

• Stormy thanks the interviewer and says that she was nicer than she was told.