How to Date - Ben Stuart

How to Date - Ben Stuart

Spring Break Reflections

Journey to San Miguel de Allende

  • The speaker recounts a college trip to San Miguel de Allende, a small town north of Mexico City, highlighting the adventure of traveling from Texas to Mexico.
  • Upon arrival, they checked into a hotel and enjoyed the view from the rooftop overlooking a neo-gothic cathedral, setting the scene for an emotional experience.

A Moment of Beauty and Longing

  • The speaker describes feeling overwhelmed by beauty while listening to hymns sung in Latin as the sun set over the city, leading to a deep emotional response.
  • Despite being with friends, there was a longing for deeper companionship; this moment sparked thoughts about wanting to share life with someone special.

Understanding Longing for Companionship

  • The speaker reflects on their desire for marriage and companionship, acknowledging that such longings are natural and rooted in human experience.
  • They reference biblical texts indicating that even before sin entered the world, Adam felt it was not good to be alone, emphasizing that this desire is inherent.

Modern Dating Complexities

  • The discussion shifts towards modern dating challenges; societal changes have complicated relationships compared to simpler times when courtship was more straightforward.
  • David Brooks' observation highlights how young people now face extended periods of uncertainty in relationships due to changing social norms and technology's impact on communication.

Navigating Relationships Today

  • The speaker notes that what should be an exciting journey toward finding a partner often feels stressful and anxiety-inducing instead.
  • They emphasize that finding someone should inspire joy rather than anxiety; however, many young people report feelings contrary to this ideal.

Finding the Right Partner

Key Characteristics in Choosing a Partner

  • Emphasizing shared values is crucial; partners should pursue similar life goals and beliefs about God’s purpose.
  • Importance is placed on character—partners should exhibit godly traits and possess moral integrity outside of their relationship dynamics.

Chemistry Matters Too

  • Beyond values and character, chemistry plays an essential role; enjoying each other's company is vital for sustaining long-term relationships.

Moving Towards Commitment

Dating: A Process of Evaluation

Understanding the Purpose of Dating

  • Dating is framed as a process rather than a static state, where individuals evaluate compatibility for a potential partnership.
  • The cultural perception of dating often associates it with drama and chaos, which is not necessarily inherent to the experience.
  • Emphasis on choosing partners who can face life's challenges together instead of engaging in unnecessary drama.

Principles for Healthy Relationships

  • Introduction to seven principles that guide interactions in dating and relationships, applicable to all individuals regardless of their current relationship status.
  • The first principle emphasizes the importance of prayerful consideration in dating decisions, trusting that God has a plan.

Trusting God's Guidance

  • Biblical references highlight that God works for the good of those who love Him, providing reassurance during the dating process.
  • Confidence in God's love alleviates anxiety about impressing potential partners; it shifts focus from self-reliance to divine guidance.

Historical Context and Modern Application

  • Reference to Genesis 24 illustrates how historical practices involved parental guidance in finding suitable partners based on shared beliefs.
  • Abraham's servant's journey underscores trust in God's provision while navigating uncertainties in relationships.

Initiating with Clarity

  • Encouragement to approach dating with clarity to reduce anxiety about relationship status; lack of clarity is identified as a significant stressor.

Speaking the Truth in Love

The Importance of Honesty in Community

  • Emphasizes that speaking the truth in love fosters growth within a community, aligning with allegiance to Jesus and His people.
  • Highlights the commitment to honesty without deception, aiming for clarity and redemptive goals in communication.
  • Quotes Proverbs 24:26, illustrating that honest answers are kind and reduce ambiguity, which can lead to anxiety.

Gender Roles and Dating Initiation

  • Discusses biblical perspectives on men initiating dating, referencing Ruth's proactive approach with Boaz as an example of women taking initiative.
  • Notes a survey indicating only 12% of American women asked a man out on a date, suggesting women desire men to initiate clearly.

Clarity in Communication

  • Explores preferences among women for face-to-face invitations rather than vague requests to "hang out," emphasizing clarity in dating intentions.
  • Shares insights from focus groups where women expressed they prefer direct language like "date" for better understanding.

Personal Experiences with Dating

  • Reflects on personal dating experiences leading up to meeting Donna, stressing the importance of community settings for relationship development.
  • Describes how he initiated getting to know Donna through group activities before asking her directly about going on a date.

Intentionality and Follow-Up

  • Illustrates the importance of providing clarity after dates by explicitly stating intentions for future communication.

Clarity in Relationships

The Importance of Clarity and Trust

  • The speaker emphasizes the need for clarity in relationships, stating that both parties should feel comfortable to exit if needed. Trust in God is highlighted as a foundation for this clarity.
  • Courage is necessary for initiating romantic connections; historically, men were more adept at asking women out due to cultural practices that encouraged such interactions.

Cultural Context of Dating

  • The speaker shares personal anecdotes about cultural norms surrounding dating, noting how communities used to foster environments where men regularly asked women out.
  • Modern society lacks these supportive structures, leading to increased fear among men when it comes to initiating dates. This shift has made the act of asking someone out feel daunting.

Navigating Initiation and Rejection

  • The speaker discusses the importance of not shaming individuals who struggle with initiation due to societal pressures and technological influences that complicate dating dynamics.
  • A story illustrates how clear communication can alleviate uncertainty; a young man appreciated an honest rejection from a woman, which allowed him to move on without lingering doubts.

Autonomy in Dating

  • The concept of autonomy is introduced, emphasizing that Christians are called to love everyone but must also recognize boundaries when it comes to serious commitments like marriage.
  • Biblical teachings outline different expectations for believers versus non-believers, stressing the importance of shared faith in forming deeper relationships.

Expectations in Relationships

  • The speaker critiques modern dating terms like "talking" or "boyfriend/girlfriend," arguing they often blur responsibilities typically associated with marriage while avoiding commitment.

Understanding the Confusion in Modern Dating

The Complexity of Responsibilities and Benefits in Relationships

  • The speaker discusses the desire to create a space where one can enjoy some benefits without taking on all responsibilities, highlighting the confusion this creates in relationships.
  • Emphasizes that dating should not be viewed as a status but rather as a process meant for evaluation, moving towards a potential future together.

Evaluating Relationships: Separation vs. Integration

  • The speaker reflects on their own dating experience, noting that there should be some separation while evaluating if someone is the right partner.
  • Discusses how societal pressures may lead individuals to seek resolution through cohabitation or physical intimacy prematurely, which can complicate relationship dynamics.

The Impact of Sexuality on Relationship Clarity

  • Cites studies indicating that many people introduce sexuality into relationships before establishing any commitment, leading to confusion and frustration.
  • References Mark Regnerus's research showing that early sexual experiences often occur without genuine emotional connection, resulting in mixed feelings and dissatisfaction.

Frustration Among Young Adults

  • Shares insights from interviews with young women who express frustration over intense sexual experiences without clarity about long-term compatibility.
  • Highlights a participant's realization that engaging sexually complicates evaluations of whether they truly like their partner.

Ideal Relationship Dynamics According to Participants

  • A participant suggests holding off on sexual intimacy to focus on building friendship first, emphasizing trust and enjoyment in each other's company.
  • Stresses that sex should be seen as the consummation of marriage rather than an initial step in dating; it signifies full commitment.

Cultural Observations on Hook-Up Culture

  • Donna Freitas’s study reveals college students' ambivalence towards hook-up culture; most describe it as "fine" but express a desire for deeper connections.
  • Students indicate they want romance and meaningful conversations alongside physical intimacy with partners deemed worthy of full emotional investment.

Biblical Perspectives on Relationships and Sexuality

Understanding the Impact of Early Sexual Bonds on Relationships

The Chemistry of Attraction and Bonding

  • Engaging in sexual activity releases dopamine and oxytocin, which are chemicals that promote happiness and bonding. Dopamine encourages repetition of pleasurable experiences, while oxytocin fosters emotional connections similar to those formed during maternal nursing.

The Risks of Premature Intimacy

  • Initiating sexual relationships too early can create a strong bond without assessing compatibility in other areas, leading to potential relational issues down the line.

Long-term Consequences of Fast Bonds

  • Over time, individuals may realize they are not well-suited for each other after forming intense physical bonds. This realization can lead to sadness and regret over wasted time.

God's Design for Sexuality

  • The speaker emphasizes that God designed sex as a gift meant to be enjoyed within the context of a committed relationship. It is important to ensure all aspects of compatibility are evaluated before engaging sexually.

Psychological Insights on Breakups

  • A study by Psychology Today indicates that the severity of breakups is linked more to the intensity of the relationship than its duration. Rapid sexual bonding can lead to withdrawal symptoms akin to drug addiction when relationships end.

Autonomy in Relationships

  • Maintaining autonomy in dating allows individuals to evaluate their compatibility without rushing into physical intimacy. This approach promotes healthier decision-making regarding long-term commitments.

Navigating Relationship Tensions

  • The speaker shares personal experiences about setting boundaries in relationships, emphasizing that tension from waiting can encourage thoughtful evaluation rather than impulsive decisions.

Grace and Redemption in Past Experiences

  • Acknowledging that not everyone has a pure past, the speaker reassures listeners that God's grace is available regardless of previous choices. Emphasis is placed on moving forward positively with an understanding of healthy sexuality.

Protecting Loved Ones

What Does It Mean to Date Graciously?

The Role of Influence in Relationships

  • The speaker expresses a desire for his sister to flourish under God's guidance, emphasizing the importance of surrounding her with men who treat her well. He believes that even if a relationship doesn't lead to marriage, it should still contribute positively to her character.
  • A moment of self-reflection occurs when the speaker realizes he hasn't been treating women as he wishes others would treat his sister. This leads him to repent and commit to changing his behavior towards women.

Navigating Dating Dynamics

  • The speaker shares an experience from college where he dated someone without physical intimacy, focusing instead on understanding their compatibility. They ultimately decided they weren't a good fit, which led to a respectful breakup.
  • After the breakup, the speaker reflects on how he treated his ex-girlfriend with respect and honor, allowing him to maintain dignity in future encounters with her and her husband.

Principles of Gracious Dating

  • The speaker advocates for dating within one's church community while maintaining a gracious approach. He suggests spending time together without rushing into intense emotional connections that can lead to hurt.
  • Emphasizing kindness in dating, the speaker prefers the term "courtesy" over "courtship," highlighting that treating each other with respect is essential because both individuals are seen as children of God.

Kindness as an Attractive Quality

  • The concept of treating others graciously is reinforced by biblical principles; kindness should be at the forefront of interactions. This aligns with being considerate and uplifting towards one another.
  • The speaker recounts experiences from high school and college where less conventionally attractive girls attracted attention due to their kindness and graciousness, illustrating that character often outweighs physical appearance in relationships.

Insights on Attraction Beyond Appearance

  • An anecdote about two kind-hearted girls demonstrates how their gracious actions drew people toward them despite not fitting traditional beauty standards. Their kindness made them desirable companions.
  • Reflecting on personal experiences within ministry settings, the speaker notes that some men who were not conventionally attractive had beautiful wives due to their character traits like kindness and gracefulness.

How Kindness and Community Shape Relationships

The Role of Kindness in Relationships

  • A personal anecdote illustrates the importance of kindness in relationships, referencing Proverbs 19: "What is desirable in a man is his kindness." This principle guided a couple's decision to prioritize kindness during their dating phase.
  • The woman reflects on her partner's kindness as a pivotal factor in their relationship, affirming that graciousness and courtesy are essential qualities desired in a partner.

Importance of Community Support

  • Emphasizes the dangers of isolating oneself during the dating process. Proverbs 11 highlights that guidance from others can prevent poor decisions, while Proverbs 24 suggests that having many counselors leads to assured victory.
  • Advocates for surrounding oneself with trusted individuals who can provide wise counsel about potential partners rather than relying solely on friends whose lives may not reflect success.

Engaging with Trusted Counselors

  • Shares an experience where the speaker sought advice from select individuals during his early dating days, emphasizing the need for community support to evaluate compatibility.
  • Describes meeting his partner’s community at church, illustrating how important it was for him to gain approval from those who cared about her well-being.

Evaluating Relationships Over Time

  • Suggests taking time to assess relationships carefully rather than rushing into commitments. Mentorship and shared experiences (like rappelling together) can help gauge compatibility.
  • Discusses how infatuation can cloud judgment; thus, it's crucial to have external perspectives when evaluating romantic interests.

Patience in Dating

  • Encourages patience throughout the dating process. Citing Paul’s advice to Timothy about not hastily appointing leaders, he stresses giving oneself time to discern if a relationship is right.

Exploring Emotional Connections Through Letter Writing

The Process of Communication

  • The speaker reflects on a personal experience with letter writing, comparing it to the traditional mail process and expressing a desire for deeper communication.
  • Acknowledges the challenge of differing writing speeds; the speaker suggests slowing down the exchange by committing to write letters back and forth, allowing for thoughtful evaluation.
  • The transition from handwritten letters to typed messages is noted, emphasizing the importance of emotional and intellectual connection over physical presence.

Anticipation and Reflection

  • The speaker describes eagerly awaiting letters from their correspondent, highlighting how this anticipation fosters emotional engagement.
  • During a festive gathering, feelings of longing are expressed as the speaker realizes they miss their correspondent, prompting introspection about relationships and autonomy.

Commitment and Decision-Making

  • After months of reflection, the speaker concludes that they want to pursue a committed relationship despite potential challenges or changes in circumstances.
  • A sense of urgency emerges as the speaker quickly decides to propose marriage, illustrating a balance between careful evaluation and decisive action.

Community and Support

  • Emphasizes reliance on faith during relationship evaluations; encourages trust in God’s plan while navigating personal connections.
Video description

“Dating is a process you go through, not a status you sit in.” Continuing our series Single, Dating, Engaged, Married, Pastor Ben Stuart challenges the way dating is viewed in our culture today and gives us 7 things to consider in the dating process. Subscribe to our channel to see more messages from Louie Giglio and Passion City Church: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqWqFGjRBFAU7Bv4Y0CijjQ Like a sailor on turbulent seas, we need to look up and see the North Star: the fixed points in the sky whereby we might navigate the objective realities in life. We need the skill-set to know how to journey through life and how to select the right people to journey alongside. In this book we will chart a course through the four relational phases that the vast majority of human beings on the planet will pass through in their twenties: singleness, dating, engaged and married. In each of these phases, we will look at what eternal purposes should be pursued in each stage, and how to pursue them. SINGLENESS: DEVOTION DATING: EVALUATION ENGAGED: UNIFICATION MARRIED: MISSION Order Pastor Ben’s book, Single, Dating, Engaged, Married : http://singledatingengagedmarried.com/ Follow @passioncity: https://www.instagram.com/passioncitydc/ Follow @ben_stuart_: https://www.instagram.com/ben_stuart_/ Passion City Church is a Jesus church with locations in Atlanta and Washington D.C. More info on Passion: https://passioncitychurch.com