Harnessing Passion, Drive & Persistence for Lifelong Success | Tony Hawk

Welcome to the Huberman Lab Podcast

In this section, Andrew Huberman introduces the podcast and his guest, Tony Hawk. He highlights Tony's accomplishments in skateboarding and his impact on the sport.

Introduction of Tony Hawk

• Tony Hawk is a renowned professional skateboarder who has been at the forefront of the sport for over 40 years. He has developed new maneuvers and pushed the boundaries of skateboarding.

• Tony Hawk is widely recognized as one of the most influential figures in skateboarding, popularizing the sport through his video game and ambassadorship.

• Despite facing career-ending injuries, Tony Hawk has demonstrated incredible drive, vision, and persistence throughout his life.

Tony's Drive, Vision, and Persistence

In this section, Andrew Huberman discusses Tony Hawk's drive, vision, and persistence in setting goals and continually evolving them throughout different stages of life.

Setting Goals and Progression

• Tony Hawk exemplifies incredible drive by continuously setting goals for himself at every stage of life - from pre-teen to adulthood.

• He emphasizes the importance of continually evolving one's goals to keep progressing in personal and professional life.

• Even at 55 years old, Tony Hawk continues to pursue his passion for skateboarding with dedication.

Thrilling Conversation with Tony Hawk

Andrew Huberman expresses his excitement about having a conversation with Tony Hawk. He shares his personal connection to skateboarding and admiration for Tony's accomplishments.

Personal Connection with Skateboarding

• Andrew Huberman grew up in the world of skateboarding and had previously met Tony Hawk (although not remembered by him).

• He acknowledges Tony's achievements in skateboarding as well as his philanthropy work through the Skatepark Foundation.

• Andrew Huberman's conversation with Tony Hawk exceeded his already high expectations.

Podcast Introduction and Sponsors

Andrew Huberman introduces the podcast as separate from his teaching and research roles at Stanford. He also acknowledges the sponsors of the podcast.

Separation from Teaching and Research

• The podcast is not directly related to Andrew Huberman's teaching and research roles at Stanford.

• It is part of his effort to provide science-related information to the general public free of cost.

Podcast Sponsors

• The first sponsor mentioned is Element, an electrolyte drink that promotes hydration for mental and physical health.

• Andrew Huberman personally uses Element for proper hydration, especially during exercise.

• The second sponsor mentioned is Roca, a company that produces high-quality eyeglasses and sunglasses.

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Wearing Eyewear and Morning Sunlight Viewing

In this section, the speaker discusses their eyewear habits, including wearing readers at night and sunglasses during the day while driving. They also emphasize the importance of morning sunlight viewing.

• The speaker wears readers at night and sometimes wears sunglasses during the day when driving.

• They recommend everyone to do their morning sunlight viewing.

• To try Roca eyeglasses or sunglasses, visit roka.com and enter the code "huberman" at checkout to save 20% on your first order.

Introduction to Tony Hawk

This section introduces Tony Hawk, a renowned skateboarder, and sets the stage for the upcoming discussion.

• The speaker expresses excitement about having a conversation with Tony Hawk.

• Tony Hawk's career in skateboarding is well-known and has been followed by many.

• The speaker mentions having Tony Hawk's poster on their wall.

Tony Hawk's Real Name

In this section, Tony Hawk confirms his real name and shares some details about his childhood.

• Tony Hawk's real name is Anthony Frank Hawk, but he has always gone by Tony.

• The speaker mentions that it is fitting for him to be named Tony given his involvement in skateboarding.

• There is a brief mention of a personal story where the speaker stayed at Tony Hawk's home when they were 14 years old.

Staying at Tony Hawk's Home

This section delves into the story of how the speaker stayed at Tony Hawk's home when they were 14 years old.

• When the speaker was 14 years old, they stayed at Tony Hawk's home for a night or possibly two nights.

• It was after a contest at Linda Vista Boys Club where everyone else had left.

• Tony Hawk's parents, Nancy and Frank, graciously took the speaker in and brought them to dinner.

Meeting Tony Hawk

This section discusses how the speaker met Tony Hawk the day after staying at his home.

• The speaker and Tony Hawk met in Fallbrook at a ramp the day after the speaker stayed at Tony Hawk's home.

• The year was around 1988 or 1989, possibly during an NSA or Castle contest.

• Tony Hawk's father was actively involved in those contests.

Skateboarding and Progression

In this section, the speaker highlights Tony Hawk's ability to continually progress in skateboarding despite severe injuries.

• The speaker acknowledges that most listeners may not be skateboarders but emphasizes that Tony Hawk has been in the game for a long time and continues to progress.

• They mention Tony Hawk's ability to come back from severe injuries and keep getting better.

• The speaker expresses interest in exploring the concept of a life of continual progression as a neuroscientist.

Self-concept and Early Aspirations

This section focuses on Tony Hawk's self-concept as a young person and his early aspirations before skateboarding.

• As a child, Tony Hawk was classified as a nerd due to being placed in advanced classes.

• He considered becoming a teacher because he believed he could relate concepts to others based on helping classmates with their studies.

• In terms of sports, he played basketball and baseball but didn't excel or consider them as potential careers.

Choosing Skateboarding as a Passion

This section explores how Tony Hawk discovered his passion for skateboarding and made it his primary focus.

• Once Tony Hawk started skateboarding, it became clear that it was what he wanted to do.

• He found joy in maneuvering the skateboard and doing unique tricks that no one else had seen before.

• At the age of 10, he didn't think of skateboarding as a career but rather as his hobby and passion.

Quitting Other Sports

This section discusses Tony Hawk's decision to quit other sports once he discovered skateboarding.

• Tony Hawk stopped playing basketball and baseball after finding his passion for skateboarding.

• He even quit Little League baseball in the middle of the season when his father became the president of that chapter.

• His father was always supportive of his children's activities and took on coaching roles when available.

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Skateboarding in the 70s and the emergence of skate parks

The speaker discusses how skateboarding became popular in the 70s, starting with kids riding bikes and then transitioning to skateboards. They mention that skateboards were not of high quality initially but were inspired by magazines featuring skaters in pools. The first skate park mentioned is Oasis Skatepark in San Diego.

Skateboarding's rise in popularity

• Kids started riding bikes in the 70s, but eventually transitioned to skateboards.

• Initially, most people had low-quality skateboards from stores like JCPenney or Big Box stores.

• Skating in pools became popular after being featured in magazines during the Dogtown and Z-Boys era.

Introduction of skate parks

• Oasis Skatepark was the first one mentioned by the speaker, located in San Diego.

• Spring Valley was another early skate park, but the speaker never got to go there due to age restrictions.

Epiphany at Del Mar Skate Ranch

The speaker recalls their first visit to Del Mar's Cooper Oasis Skatepark around 1978. They describe it as a transformative experience where they witnessed people flying around on their boards. This moment solidified their passion for skating and its individualistic nature.

First visit to Del Mar's Cooper Oasis Skatepark

• A friend invited them to go to Del Mar's Cooper Oasis Skatepark.

• It required getting an authorization form notarized by a bank.

• Witnessing people flying around on their boards at the park was a life-changing experience for the speaker.

• Skating represented freedom from team sports and coaches' control, allowing them to express themselves individually.

Parental involvement and stability at skateboarding events

The speaker reflects on their father's involvement in their skateboarding journey. They express gratitude for their parents' support and stability amidst a potentially chaotic skateboarding scene. However, the speaker also acknowledges that having their father present at events sometimes led to feelings of favoritism among their friends.

The role of the speaker's father

• The speaker fondly remembers their parents, particularly their father, as a stable presence in a landscape filled with potential chaos.

• Their father was not afraid to voice his opinions and impose regulations when necessary.

• Skateboarding was seen as an unusual sport compared to more traditional sports like little league, but the speaker's father embraced it due to the speaker's interest.

Mixed feelings about parental involvement

• While appreciative of their father's support, the speaker's friends felt that having a parent present at skateboarding events disrupted the sense of independence and escape from parental influence.

• The speaker expressed concerns and frustrations about this situation but had to accept it since their father played an organizing role in many events.

Pushing harder and proving oneself through skateboarding

The speaker discusses how skateboarding requires genuine skill and cannot be faked. They mention that having parental involvement did not exempt them from proving themselves on the board. Additionally, they comment on being skinny during that time period.

Authenticity in skateboarding

• Skateboarding is a sport where one's skills are immediately evident; there is no way to fake proficiency.

• Having parental involvement did not shield the speaker from needing to prove themselves on the skateboard.

Personal challenges

• The speaker mentions facing various obstacles during that time period, including being skinnier than others.

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Concerns about Growth and Puberty

The speaker discusses their experience of being small and looking younger than their age until the age of 16. They also mention a growth spurt that occurred around age 17, which is linked to longevity. The speaker highlights the impact of puberty on physical and psychological development.

Late Growth Spurt

• At the age of 16, the speaker looked much younger than their actual age.

• Around age 17, the speaker experienced a significant growth spurt.

• A longer arc of puberty is associated with a longer life.

• The onset of a big burst of growth hormone during puberty indicates potential longevity.

Physical Changes and Confidence

• The speaker used to wear elbow pads as knee pads due to their small size as a child.

• They took inspiration from professional skateboarder Steve Caballero, who also wore elbow pads on his knees.

• Despite having scoliosis, Steve Caballero's success gave the speaker hope that they could achieve similar feats.

• The speaker's growth spurt brought increased strength, height, and confidence in performing skateboarding tricks.

Love for Skateboarding and Skill Development

The speaker emphasizes the importance of loving what you do in order to excel at it. They discuss how their passion for skateboarding drove them to improve their skills despite limited career prospects at that time.

Passion for Skateboarding

• When your body changes but your nervous system knows how to perform certain actions, you can achieve greater force and skill.

• The speaker highlights the misconception that success in a particular field is solely predetermined, emphasizing the importance of loving what you do.

• They mention that proficiency or excellence in any field requires a genuine love for the activity.

Limited Career Prospects

• During their youth, there were no great aspirations to become a professional skateboarder as it was not a viable career option.

• Skateboarding competitions offered minimal prize money, making it difficult to sustain a living from skateboarding alone.

• The speaker turned professional at 14 but had only $600 in earnings by age 15.5, which they used to buy a moped.

Study Notes

• The speaker's growth spurt during puberty indicates potential longevity due to increased growth hormone release.

• Passion and love for an activity are crucial for achieving proficiency and excellence.

• Limited career prospects in skateboarding during the speaker's youth highlight the importance of intrinsic motivation rather than external rewards.

The Fame and Popularity of Skateboarding

In this section, Tony Hawk discusses the surge of popularity in skateboarding and his experience as a famous skateboarder from a young age.

Awareness of Attention and Fame

• Tony Hawk mentions that there were about six or seven core guys who were more central to the skateboarding scene.

• He talks about how skateboarding had periods of surging in popularity and then disappearing, but there was a second or third surge when it became famous.

• Tony Hawk reflects on whether he had a conscious awareness of the attention being placed on him through photos and videos.

• Despite being famous, he always remained grounded and not caught up in the fame.

• He mentions that he never sought fame, but when he realized it, he felt uncomfortable at first.

• Tony Hawk acknowledges that people may have perceived him as pompous or arrogant because he didn't interact much due to feeling unsure about how to act.

Avoiding Pitfalls of Fame

In this section, Tony Hawk discusses how he managed to avoid many pitfalls associated with being famous despite achieving success at a young age.

Staying Grounded

• Tony Hawk explains that while he was happy to be successful and recognized for his skateboarding skills, fame was never his goal.

• He admits that being recognized by people was amazing because of his skateboarding abilities, something he never imagined.

• Some people thought he was arrogant because he didn't interact much with others due to feeling unsure about how to act.

• Despite being famous from a young age, Tony Hawk managed to avoid common pitfalls such as reckless spending or destructive behavior.

Breaking Out of Comfort Zone

In this section, Tony Hawk talks about how he learned to break out of his comfort zone and interact with others.

Overcoming Social Barriers

• Tony Hawk shares that he was initially walled up and didn't know how to interact with people, which led some to perceive him as arrogant.

• He recalls a moment when Stacy Peralta encouraged him to interact with a fan who wanted to meet him, helping him break out of his comfort zone.

• Tony Hawk mentions that being only 14 years old at the time contributed to his uncertainty in social situations.

Financial Responsibility

In this section, Tony Hawk discusses how his father guided him towards financial responsibility and making wise investments.

Long-Term Career Planning

• Tony Hawk's father recognized that fame might not last long-term in skateboarding and advised him to invest wisely.

• He encouraged Tony Hawk to buy property, such as a house, which became his saving grace.

• Despite initially spending money on cars and other things beyond his means, investing in property helped secure his financial future.

The Role of Stacy Peralta

In this section, Tony Hawk talks about the role of Stacy Peralta in his career and how he was introduced into the Bones Brigade team.

Introduction by Stacy Peralta

• Tony Hawk acknowledges the significant role played by Stacy Peralta in putting him on the Bones Brigade team.

• At the time, Tony Hawk's skating style was considered more like a circus act rather than established skateboarding.

• He recalls one specific trick, the finger flip air, which left a lasting impression on people who watched it repeatedly.

Unique Skateboarding Style

In this section, Tony Hawk discusses his unique skateboarding style and how it was initially met with criticism.

Finger Flip Air Trick

• Tony Hawk's finger flip air trick, where he flipped the board in the air and caught it, left a significant impact on viewers.

• Despite some initial criticism for his style, Tony Hawk's skating was admired by a group of people who started skateboarding around the same time.

Varied Skateboarding Skills

In this section, Tony Hawk talks about the variety of skateboarding skills he possessed and how they were received by others.

Board Variation Tricks

• Tony Hawk mentions that during a specific period before his finger flip air trick gained recognition, he faced some flack for his board variation tricks.

• He explains that while doing board variations, he hadn't fully established himself as a skateboarder yet.

The Shift in Acceptance and Labeling

In this section, the speaker discusses how their acceptance in skateboarding changed as they started performing tricks at higher heights. They also mention being labeled as a trick skater or robot skater, while another skater, Christian Hosoi, was known for his style and high airs.

Acceptance and Labels

• The speaker experienced a shift in acceptance when they started doing tricks at higher heights.

• Despite the shift, they were still labeled as a trick skater or robot skater.

• Christian Hosoi was known for his style and ability to perform high airs.

Divisions in Skateboarding

This section focuses on the divisions within skateboarding during that era. The speaker mentions that there was a divide between those who liked them (the speaker) and those who liked Christian Hosoi. They also highlight the strangeness of being young and involved in an activity that hadn't been established yet.

Divisions and Struggles

• Skateboarding during that era was divided between those who liked the speaker and those who liked Christian Hosoi.

• It was strange to be involved in an activity (skateboarding) that hadn't been fully established yet.

Bullying and Success

In this section, the speaker talks about facing bullying despite their success in skateboarding. They mention getting bullied but also receiving recognition from Thrasher magazine for their performance.

Bullying and Recognition

• The speaker faced bullying despite their success.

• Thrasher magazine recognized their performance when they won competitions.

Skateboard Magazines: Thrasher vs. Transworld

This section discusses the rivalry between Thrasher magazine and Transworld skateboarding magazine. The speaker mentions their connection to Thrasher magazine as a writer and highlights the divide between Northern California (Thrasher) and Southern California (Transworld).

Magazine Rivalry

• Thrasher magazine and Transworld skateboarding magazine were rivals.

• The speaker had a connection to Thrasher magazine as a writer.

• Thrasher was associated with Northern California, while Transworld was associated with Southern California.

Overcoming Challenges and Proving Others Wrong

This section emphasizes the importance of determination and perseverance in overcoming challenges. The speaker shares personal experiences of witnessing others being teased early on but eventually excelling in their respective fields.

Lessons Learned

• The speaker reflects on how those who are determined and love what they do can surpass expectations.

• They recall seeing Mark Gonzalez, initially considered a "kook," become one of the greatest street skateboarders.

• The speaker also mentions observing podcasters who faced initial skepticism but later achieved success.

Dealing with Criticism as a Young Skater

In this section, the speaker talks about not having a support group or resources to voice their concerns about criticism. However, they focused on improving their skills by continuously learning new tricks at the skate park.

Coping with Criticism

• As a young skater, the speaker didn't have a support group or resources to discuss their concerns about criticism.

• Instead, they focused on improving their skills by learning new tricks at the skate park.

Turning Point: Success at Other Events

This section highlights how success at other events helped change people's perception of the speaker's abilities. They mention Upland pipeline as one of the most challenging skateboarding pools and their determination to conquer it.

Turning Point and Proving Skills

• Success at other events, particularly Upland pipeline, helped change people's perception of the speaker's abilities.

• Upland pipeline was a challenging pool with tight transitions and rough coping.

• The speaker dedicated themselves to mastering Upland pipeline as a proving ground for their skills.

Dedication and Skill Development

This section emphasizes the speaker's dedication to improving their skills by regularly visiting Upland skate park. They mention driving long distances to practice and how conquering difficult challenges at Upland prepared them for other skateboarding endeavors.

Dedication and Skill Building

• The speaker drove long distances to visit Upland skate park regularly.

• Conquering challenges at Upland helped prepare them for other skateboarding endeavors.

• Their dedication to mastering difficult obstacles contributed to their overall skill development.

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Benefits of AG1 Supplement

In this section, the speaker discusses the benefits of taking AG1 supplement, including its ability to provide essential vitamins and minerals, probiotics, and adaptogens for stress relief. The speaker also mentions improved focus, energy levels, and sleep quality as additional benefits.

Benefits of AG1 Supplement

• AG1 provides sufficient servings of vitamins, minerals, probiotics, and adaptogens.

• Taking AG1 leads to improved focus, energy levels, and better sleep quality.

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The speaker introduces a special offer for trying AG1 supplement. By visiting drinkag1.com/huberman until August 12th, 2023, individuals can claim 10 free travel packs of AG1 along with a year's supply of vitamin D3 K2.

Special Offer for Trying AG1

• To try AG1 supplement, visit drinkag1.com/huberman.

• The special offer includes 10 free travel packs of AG1 and a year's supply of vitamin D3 K2.

Approach to Learning Tricks in Skateboarding

The speaker discusses their systematic approach to learning tricks in skateboarding and addresses the associated anxiety. They explain how they combine existing tricks and consider body positioning to determine if a new trick will work.

Approach to Learning Tricks in Skateboarding

• When approaching a new trick, the speaker considers how existing tricks can be combined and if their body position can shift accordingly.

• They have a systematic process of breaking down a trick into its components and mastering each part individually.

• The speaker emphasizes the importance of timing and making all the pieces of a trick work together for successful execution.

Systematic Approach to Trying Tricks

The speaker further explains their systematic approach to trying tricks in skateboarding. They discuss starting with the basics, gradually progressing, and avoiding a haphazard approach.

Systematic Approach to Trying Tricks

• The speaker starts by learning the basics of a trick before attempting more advanced variations.

• They avoid a haphazard approach and instead focus on deliberate practice and gradual progression.

Conceptualizing New Tricks

The speaker shares their thought process when conceptualizing new tricks in skateboarding. They consider how existing tricks can be combined and if their body position can shift accordingly.

Conceptualizing New Tricks

• When approaching a new trick, the speaker considers how they can combine existing tricks and if their body position can shift accordingly.

• They aim to have all the necessary components of a trick mastered individually before attempting to put them together.

Technicality of Modern Skateboarding Tricks

The speaker discusses how modern skateboarding tricks have become more technical, requiring precise timing and adjustments for successful execution.

Technicality of Modern Skateboarding Tricks

• Modern skateboarding tricks require precise timing, adjustments, and fractional movements for successful execution.

• Even with extensive experience, there are still moves that may only be successfully executed once due to the difficulty of getting into the right position.

Precision and Commitment in Skateboarding Tricks

The speaker emphasizes the precision and commitment required in skateboarding tricks, using a specific trick as an example. They explain the importance of landing on specific parts of the skateboard and maintaining balance.

Precision and Commitment in Skateboarding Tricks

• The speaker describes a specific trick, a 360 shove it five out of fakie, to illustrate the precision and commitment required.

• Landing on specific parts of the skateboard, such as the truck or axle, is crucial for maintaining balance during tricks.

• Achieving the correct body position and energy reversal for certain tricks can be extremely challenging.

Difficulty and Effort in Learning Tricks

The speaker reflects on the difficulty and effort involved in learning new skateboarding tricks. They mention that some tricks may only be successfully executed once due to their complexity.

Difficulty and Effort in Learning Tricks

• Learning certain tricks requires intense effort, commitment, and focus on a single moment with precise movements.

• Some complex tricks may only be successfully executed once due to their difficulty in achieving the necessary positioning and balance.

Inspiration from Dreams

In this section, the speaker discusses how they sometimes get inspiration for skateboarding tricks from their dreams. They mention waking up in the middle of the night to write down ideas that come to them in dreams.

• Sometimes, the speaker wakes up in the middle of the night and writes down skateboarding tricks that they dream about.

• They find inspiration in their dreams and believe that some tricks can be accomplished based on what they dream about.

Dreaming About Skateboarding

The speaker talks about how their dreams about skateboarding have changed after experiencing a traumatic injury. They also discuss a phase of sleep called rapid eye movement (REM) sleep and its connection to intense dreams.

• Before getting injured, the speaker used to dream about not being able to skate properly, struggling with speed and timing.

• After the injury, their dreams shifted to being able to perform all their tricks again.

• REM sleep is a phase where intense and vivid dreams occur while our bodies are paralyzed.

• During REM sleep, our bodies cannot release adrenaline, which may explain why we feel unable to move or react in certain dream situations.

• Some people may wake up while still partially paralyzed during REM sleep, which can be terrifying but not dangerous.

Recovery from Injury and Dreaming

The speaker discusses their recent injury and recovery process. They talk about how they used to dream about facing roadblocks while skateboarding before the injury. They also share an example of coming up with a new trick idea while falling asleep.

• Before the injury, when dreaming about skateboarding, there were always obstacles preventing them from performing well.

• The speaker shares an example of falling asleep and having an idea for a new trick - a half cab body rail to backside blunt - which they successfully executed at the X Games in Japan.

• The speaker emphasizes the importance of being open to ideas that show up in the liminal state between wakefulness and sleep.

Finding Inspiration in Mundane Moments

The speaker talks about finding inspiration for skateboarding tricks during mundane moments, such as taking walks or showering. They also mention their lack of a warm-up routine.

• The speaker finds inspiration for skateboarding tricks during everyday activities like taking walks or showering.

• They admit lacking a proper warm-up routine before skateboarding.

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Warm-up Routine and Learning New Tricks

In this section, the speaker discusses their warm-up routine and the satisfaction of learning new tricks in skateboarding.

Warm-up Routine

• The speaker compares their warm-up routine to that of a surgeon before surgery, where they check off various boxes to ensure comfort and readiness.

• Their warm-up run consists of basic tricks that help them gauge how stiff or adjusted they need to be for the rest of the day.

• While it may not be considered OCD, the speaker feels the need to go through this routine as it helps them feel their best.

Learning New Tricks

• The speaker finds incredible satisfaction in learning new tricks, even if they are not original creations.

• They recall the exhilarating feeling when they first learned varials backside burials, a trick that had not been done before.

• The speaker describes varials as reaching down, grabbing the board, jumping in the air, and turning 180 degrees under their feet.

• Learning this trick halfway up a pool at Oasis with no one around gave them an unparalleled feeling of accomplishment.

• This experience became a driving force for them as they continued to chase that same feeling by creating new tricks.

The Feeling of Accomplishment and Basic Tricks

In this section, the speaker reflects on two or three things that bring them immense joy in skateboarding: learning new tricks and performing basic tricks.

• The feeling of accomplishment from learning new tricks is unmatched for the speaker. It is not just about creating something unique but also about doing something they have never done before.

• They specifically mention how learning backside varials below coping was a significant milestone for them. It was a trick they thought of themselves and worked hard to figure out.

• Despite initially going unnoticed by others, being able to perform a full 360 varial six feet in the air was a major achievement for the speaker.

• In addition to learning new tricks, even basic tricks like a backside Ollie (no-handed aerial) bring immense satisfaction. The speaker mentions how people often wonder how they manage to stay on their feet during this trick.

The Buzz of Accomplishment and Love for Backside

In this section, the speaker continues to discuss the buzz of accomplishment and their love for backside tricks in skateboarding.

• The feeling of accomplishment from learning new tricks, especially when no one else has done them before, is like chasing a buzz that lasts.

• They recall the first time they performed a backside varial below coping and describe it as an unparalleled experience.

• Despite others not initially recognizing its significance, the speaker knew they had achieved something extraordinary through hard work and dedication.

• Additionally, even basic tricks like a clean backside Ollie continue to bring immense joy to the speaker. They appreciate the physics behind it and consider it a beautiful thing to behold.

Solo Sessions and Progression

In this section, the conversation shifts towards solo sessions and personal progression in skateboarding.

• The interviewer asks about how often the speaker skates alone without any filming or external pressures. They mention that sometimes other skaters may be present as well.

• The interviewer acknowledges the increasing presence of female skateboarders at their ramp and mentions Reese Nelson as an example.

• The discussion then moves towards people's assumptions about natural talent versus hard work in sports or other fields.

• The speaker reflects on their own journey, stating that when they started skating, nobody would have thought they had any future in it due to their initial lack of skill.

• They emphasize that being a natural does not guarantee success if one lacks drive and discipline.

• The speaker has observed individuals who possess natural talent but do not utilize it to its full potential.

Drive and Progression

In this section, the speaker reflects on their drive and progression in skateboarding.

• The interviewer asks if the speaker ever reflects on their drive and what motivates them to continue skateboarding.

• The speaker responds that they don't think about it; they just know they have to do it. It is intrinsic to who they are.

• They mention that when they started skating, nobody would have thought they had any future in it due to their lack of natural talent.

• The speaker believes that being chosen or having genetics play a role is not the sole determinant of success. Drive and discipline are crucial factors for progress.

• They highlight the importance of utilizing one's talents and taking advantage of opportunities for growth.

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The Importance of Persistence and Learning New Techniques

In this section, the speaker emphasizes the importance of persistence and continuously learning new techniques in order to improve skills.

The Speaker's Experience with Learning New Tricks

• The speaker mentions that despite initial lack of skill, he was able to learn new tricks by trying different techniques.

• He highlights the value of receiving feedback from others through videos and incorporating new techniques into his repertoire.

Dedication to Improvement

• The speaker emphasizes the need to give weight to continuous learning and improvement.

• He mentions the dedication of scientists who work late nights and early mornings in the lab, highlighting their commitment to progress.

Internal Friction as a Motivator

• The speaker suggests that internal friction is necessary for growth.

• He shares a personal example of breaking his leg while attempting a trick he had done numerous times before, emphasizing his determination to overcome challenges.

Overcoming Challenges and Pursuing Personal Goals

In this section, the speaker discusses overcoming challenges and pursuing personal goals, using his own experience as an example.

Personal Example - Breaking His Leg

• The speaker recounts breaking his leg while attempting a trick he had performed for many years.

• He explains how a specific grab during the trick caused him to flip upside down, resulting in injury.

• Despite setbacks, he expresses his determination to recover and continue pursuing his goals.

Motivation Behind Returning to 540s

• The speaker reveals that even after experiencing significant injury, he feels compelled to perform 540s again.

• He acknowledges that it is difficult to explain why it means so much to him but emphasizes its significance in his life.

Overcoming Fear and Seeking Support

In this section, the speaker discusses overcoming fear and seeking support from loved ones.

Facing Fear and Preparing for the Trick

• The speaker shares his fear of attempting the 540 trick again.

• He describes how he prepared for it by adjusting his diet and focusing solely on practicing the spin.

Support from His Wife

• The speaker acknowledges that his wife was initially concerned about him getting hurt again.

• However, he appreciates her understanding and acceptance of his need to pursue his passion.

Choosing Safety Measures and Finding Happiness in Skateboarding

In this section, the speaker talks about choosing safety measures and finding happiness in skateboarding.

Going High for Safety

• The speaker explains that going higher on ramps provides a safer landing zone for him.

• He mentions that larger ramps allow him more time in the air to adjust during tricks.

Personal Preference for Vert Ramps

• The speaker expresses why he prefers skating on 14-foot vert ramps rather than smaller park events.

• He states that larger ramps provide a better landing zone and accommodate his height and slower movements.

Emotional Support and Pressure

• The speaker emphasizes the importance of emotional support from loved ones during skateboarding endeavors.

• He mentions that having his wife present at the ramp gave him confidence not to get hurt in front of her.

Remarkable Recovery and Determination

In this section, the speaker discusses his remarkable recovery after breaking his femur and highlights his determination to continue skateboarding.

Early Return to Skateboarding

• The speaker recalls a conversation with someone shortly after breaking his femur where he confidently stated he would be back skateboarding within two months.

• He mentions attending an awards event without any walking support just a week later, showcasing his quick recovery.

Commitment to Skateboarding

• The speaker shares videos of himself dropping in and performing kick turns below coping, demonstrating his commitment to skateboarding.

• He mentions the support of a mutual friend, Mike Blaback, who captured these moments through photography.

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Ignoring Professional Advice and Pushing Through Injuries

Tony Hawk reflects on his tendency to ignore professional advice and push through injuries, highlighting his mindset of always being able to overcome physical setbacks.

Ignoring Professional Advice

• Tony Hawk admits that he didn't listen to any professional advice regarding his injuries.

• Despite having a history of broken bones and surgeries, he believed he could always push through and heal quickly.

• He disregarded the timeline suggested by professionals due to his past experiences.

Risky Behavior

• Tony Hawk acknowledges that he is comfortable with what others perceive as extremely risky behavior.

• After the Academy Awards, where he walked without a cane on stage, he felt compelled to get back into action immediately.

• He was already struggling with mobility due to an unhealed bone in his foot but decided to skate on a mini ramp anyway.

Denial and Consequences

• Tony Hawk stepped off his board at the top of the mini ramp, causing further damage to his unhealed bone.

• Initially in denial about the severity of the injury, he continued skating for months despite ongoing pain and lack of progress.

• X-rays revealed that his bone had not connected properly, resulting in a non-union fracture.

Recovery Process and Lifestyle Changes

Tony Hawk discusses his recovery process after discovering the non-union fracture. He emphasizes the importance of following medical advice and making lifestyle changes during recovery.

Pragmatic Approach to Recovery

• Seeking help from a specialist in non-union fractures, Tony Hawk received pragmatic advice involving removing hardware from his foot and immobilizing it for two months.

• He followed this advice strictly, prioritizing proper healing over rushing back into activities.

Prioritizing Sleep, Nutrition, and Discipline

• During recovery, Tony Hawk maintained discipline in terms of his diet, schedule, and sleep.

• Despite being busy with speaking engagements, he made sure to prioritize his recovery and take care of himself.

Positive Outcome

• Tony Hawk's dedication to his recovery paid off when he finally started skating again.

• He experienced significant improvement in his leg strength and ability to perform tricks.

• Although he acknowledges that some tricks may be more difficult now due to changes in his body, he has come to terms with not pushing himself as hard as before.

Balancing Medical Advice and Personal Expertise

Tony Hawk reflects on the balance between following medical advice and trusting his own expertise during the recovery process. He emphasizes the importance of listening to experts while also understanding one's own body.

Following Medical Advice

• Tony Hawk commends himself for obeying doctor's orders during his recovery period.

• He underwent a two-month period of immobility as recommended by the specialist treating his non-union fracture.

Trusting Personal Expertise

• While Tony Hawk listened to medical professionals, he also recognized that he is an expert in understanding his own body.

• He made decisions about his rate of recovery based on both professional advice and personal knowledge.

Acceptance and Future Outlook

• Tony Hawk has come to terms with the fact that he won't be able to push himself as hard as before due to changes in his body.

• Despite this, he remains determined to come back at 100% or better after each injury.

Adjustments and Acceptance

The speaker discusses their inability to make adjustments in a certain area and how they have come to accept it. They also mention the satisfaction of achieving other goals.

• The speaker acknowledges that they are unable to fix a certain issue.

• They have accepted that this particular aspect is no longer their go-to move.

• Despite this, they reflect on having had a successful run.

• They express satisfaction with the progress made in other areas, such as achieving a 540 trick.

Congratulations and Acknowledging Sponsor

The speaker congratulates someone on their accomplishment and takes a moment to acknowledge the sponsor of the video.

• The speaker congratulates someone on successfully performing a trick at least head high.

• They mention witnessing this achievement firsthand under favorable circumstances.

• The speaker expresses gratitude towards the sponsor of the video, Inside Tracker.

• Inside Tracker is described as a personalized nutrition platform that analyzes blood and DNA data to help individuals understand their bodies better.

Importance of Blood Work and Inside Tracker

The speaker emphasizes the significance of regular blood work for understanding immediate and long-term health. They introduce Inside Tracker as a platform that helps interpret blood test results.

• Regular blood work is highlighted as crucial for assessing various factors impacting health.

• Many blood tests provide information about lipids, hormones, etc., but often lack guidance on interpreting the results.

• Inside Tracker is introduced as a personalized platform that simplifies data analysis and provides actionable insights based on individual profiles.

• The platform assists in understanding lipid levels, hormone levels, supplements, nutrition, and protocols for optimizing health.

Ultimate Plan and Key Indicators

The speaker discusses Inside Tracker's ultimate plan, which includes measures of apob and insulin as key indicators of cardiovascular health and energy regulation.

• Inside Tracker's ultimate plan now incorporates measures of both apob and insulin.

• Apob and insulin are identified as crucial indicators for assessing cardiovascular health and energy regulation.

• The speaker highlights the importance of bringing these numbers into ideal ranges for immediate and long-term health benefits.

Excitement for Future Goals

The speaker expresses enthusiasm about achieving specific goals in skateboarding.

• The speaker mentions their desire to regain their previous ability to perform hand plants.

• They recall how hand plants used to be their signature move, involving a one-handed handstand with a specific tucking motion.

• Although they can still perform hand plants, they express a longing to execute them as proficiently as before.

Physical Therapy and Potential Solutions

The speaker discusses working with a physical therapist who has been instrumental in their recovery. They also explore potential solutions for improving certain skateboarding techniques.

• The speaker reveals that they are currently working with a physical therapist named Best Core, who is a doctor of physical therapy.

• Best Core has provided significant assistance throughout the recovery process, addressing frustrations related to specific motions or grabs.

• There is speculation that the alignment between the femur and pelvis may be affecting certain skateboarding techniques.

• Physical therapy interventions, such as off-ramp exercises or adjustments, could potentially address this issue.

Evolution of Skateboarding Culture

The speaker reflects on how skateboarding culture has evolved over time, incorporating elements like nutrition, physical therapy, sleep, and overall well-being.

• The speaker recalls that in the early days of skateboarding, the culture was characterized by a rejection of mainstream norms and organized team sports.

• Nutrition during that time often consisted of fast food, cigarettes, and beer.

• However, there has been a significant shift over the past 15 to 20 years, with skateboarders now prioritizing their physical well-being.

• Skateboarders are increasingly engaging in activities like gym workouts, balance training, and seeking professional help for injuries.

• Many skateboarders have chosen to abstain from alcohol and drugs, focusing on maintaining a healthy lifestyle.

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Skateboarding as a Career Option

In this section, the speaker discusses how skateboarding has evolved from being a recreational activity to a career option. They highlight the diversity within skateboarding and the different paths to success.

Skateboarding Becoming More Organized and Serious

• Skateboarding has become more established and popular, leading to people taking it more seriously as a career option.

• Despite the increased organization, there are still skaters who prioritize fun over competitions and sponsorships.

• The speaker appreciates the diversity within skateboarding and acknowledges that everyone is part of the same scene.

Evolution of Training and Resources

• The speaker reflects on their own experience as a competitor in skateboarding during the 1980s when training was minimal.

• Nowadays, top skateboarders like Nigel Houston are treated like elite athletes with access to trainers, resources, and sponsors.

• These resources have allowed skateboarders to prolong their careers and recover from injuries with professional help.

Skateboarding's Positive Impact

• The speaker believes that skateboarding should not be exclusive or inaccessible but rather something that benefits mental health and encourages individuality.

• They express their satisfaction with skateboarding gaining popularity among young people and becoming mainstream, even without Olympic validation.

The Rise of Skating Culture

In this section, the speaker discusses how skateboarding culture has evolved over time. They mention the influence of video games on public perception and acceptance of skateboarding as a sport.

Video Games' Influence on Perception

• The speaker shares their long-standing interest in video games since childhood.

• Video games featuring skateboarding have allowed kids to experience tricks virtually without physical risks.

• Playing these video games can inspire children to try real skateboarding or similar activities.

Genesis of Skateboarding Video Games

• The speaker's interest in technology and video games motivated their involvement in the creation of skateboarding video games.

• They acknowledge that these games have played a significant role in changing the face of skateboarding and how it is perceived by the general public.

Impact of Skateboarding Video Games

In this section, the speaker further explores the impact of skateboarding video games on the acceptance and progression of skateboarding as a sport.

Wide Acceptance of Skateboarding

• The speaker emphasizes that skateboarding video games have contributed to wider acceptance and participation in various forms of skateboarding.

• They highlight how seeing tricks performed virtually can inspire kids to try them in real life, leading to increased interest and participation.

Personal Interest in Video Games

• The speaker expresses their long-standing passion for video games since childhood, mentioning specific game consoles they enjoyed playing.

• Their personal interest in video games influenced their involvement in creating skateboarding video games.

Conclusion

Skateboarding has evolved from a recreational activity to a serious career option. The diversity within skateboarding allows for different paths to success. Skateboarders now have access to training, resources, and sponsors, which has extended their careers. Video games featuring skateboarding have had a significant impact on public perception and acceptance of the sport. These virtual experiences inspire kids to try real skateboarding or similar activities. Overall, skateboarders appreciate the positive impact that skateboarding has on mental health and individuality.

The Journey to Creating a Skateboarding Video Game

In this section, Tony Hawk discusses his journey in creating a skateboarding video game and the challenges he faced along the way.

Pitching the Idea and Initial Rejection

• Tony Hawk received a call from a PC programmer who wanted to pitch a skate game.

• They had a crude engine of a skater cruising around and it was all keyboard controlled.

• Skateboarding games were not popular at that time, with the last notable ones being 720 in arcades and Skate or Die for home systems.

• They pitched the idea to various console and software manufacturers but were told that skateboarding games were not a good idea.

Taking a Chance with Activision

• Tony Hawk's partner got frustrated and needed to find a job, while Tony was still interested in pursuing something in the video game industry.

• A year later, Activision called Tony Hawk and offered him an opportunity to work on a video game.

• The initial version of the game was based on an engine from another game called Apocalypse starring Bruce Willis.

• Despite its unconventional theme, Tony Hawk felt that there was potential in the gameplay mechanics.

Development Process and Release

• Over the course of about a year and a half, they went back and forth with builds of the game being sent to Tony Hawk for testing.

• The goal throughout development was to create something that would be appreciated by skateboarders, even though skateboarding itself wasn't very popular at that time.

• Just before the release of the game, Activision offered Tony Hawk a buyout of future royalties for half a million dollars upfront. He decided to take a chance instead.

Success and Sequels

• The game received stellar reviews upon release, leading Activision to immediately start working on sequels.

• Tony Hawk ended up working on a total of 10 sequels, which were highly successful.

• His decision to not take the cash upfront and instead see how the game would perform turned out to be the best financial decision he ever made.

The Impact of Vert Skating and Financial Decisions

In this section, Tony Hawk discusses the impact of vert skating during that time and reflects on his financial decisions.

Vert Skating and Inline Skating

• Vert skating was still relevant due to inline skating's popularity in the late 90s.

• Tony Hawk mentions being a special guest at inline rollerblade shows, which helped him financially during a quieter period for vert skateboarding.

Financial Decision and Game Success

• Tony Hawk had just bought a new home when Activision offered him a buyout of future royalties for half a million dollars upfront.

• He decided to take a chance and see what would happen with the game instead of taking the money.

• The game's success upon release led to immediate plans for sequels, solidifying Tony Hawk's financial stability.

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Introduction and Early Financial Decisions

In this section, the speaker discusses their initial meeting with Tony Hawk and observes that he seemed to have good financial advice. The speaker wonders if someone, like Tony's parents or friends, guided him in making wise financial decisions.

Financial Guidance and Shrewdness

• Tony Hawk was introduced to the speaker at Fallbrook where he had ramps in his backyard.

• It is noted that Tony seemed to have good financial advice, possibly from his parents or friends.

• The speaker asks about the source of Tony's shrewdness and prudence in making financial decisions as a young famous athlete.

• Tony mentions that his dad, Frank Hawk, advised him to buy real estate when he was just 17 years old.

• He bought a four-acre property and built ramps on it, which helped propel his skating career but eventually became a financial drain.

• Tony made smart decisions by selling the house to start his company Birdhouse and cutting back on expenses.

Challenges of Early Success

In this section, the speaker discusses how many people burn through their early success due to poor financial decisions. They ask Tony about his ability to make good decisions as a young famous athlete and where his shrewdness came from.

Avoiding Bad Decisions

• The speaker highlights how some individuals make bad decisions after achieving early success.

• They inquire about Tony's avoidance of drugs and alcohol and how it contributed to his ability to progress in skateboarding.

• The speaker acknowledges that making good decisions as a young famous athlete is rare even with coaches' guidance.

• They ask about the source of Tony's shrewdness and prudence in making financial decisions.

• Tony credits his dad for advising him on buying real estate and guiding him in making smart choices.

• He mentions that he had to become shrewd when his income became uncertain, and he had a child to support.

Financial Struggles and Starting Birdhouse

In this section, the speaker discusses Tony's financial struggles during the slow days of skateboarding. They inquire about how Tony managed to start his company Birdhouse amidst these challenges.

Unraveling Finances

• The speaker notes that while things might have seemed stable on the surface, Tony's finances were starting to unravel.

• Tony explains that after buying a property with ramps, his income dropped during the slowest days of skating (around 1991-1992).

• He struggled to afford the mortgage and upkeep of the property, leading to financial strain.

• To start Birdhouse, Tony took a second mortgage on the house and used its equity as capital.

• Eventually, he sold the house for what he had taken out and downsized his living expenses.

Making Sacrifices for Success

In this section, the speaker discusses how Tony made sacrifices and took on various jobs to sustain himself during challenging times. They also touch upon Tony's involvement in commercials.

Sacrifices for Success

• The speaker highlights how Tony had an uncertain income and had to make sacrifices during this period.

• Tony shares that he lived frugally, eating inexpensive meals like Taco Bell, Top Ramen, and peanut butter jelly sandwiches.

• He took on random demo requests or consulting jobs just to make ends meet.

• Despite being considered "too old" at 24 years old for certain roles in commercials or demos, Tony still took those opportunities.

• He recalls being involved in a cereal commercial where he played the role of Tony the Tiger.

Starting Birdhouse and Building a Team

In this section, the speaker discusses Tony's transition from being a rider to becoming a team manager and owner of Birdhouse. They also mention some notable skateboarders who were part of the Birdhouse team.

Transition to Team Manager and Owner

• The speaker asks if it was fun for Tony to transition from being a rider to a team manager and owner.

• Tony responds that it was necessary rather than purely fun.

• He explains that he had to take on multiple roles, including coach, tour manager, and skater.

• Tony mentions some skateboarders who were part of the Birdhouse team, such as Willie Santos, Jeremy Klein, Steve Berra, Ocean Howell, Andrew Reynolds, and Matt Beach.

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Challenges of Running Birdhouse

In this section, the speaker continues discussing the challenges faced by Tony in running Birdhouse. They touch upon financial struggles and the demanding nature of managing a skateboarding brand.

Challenges Faced

• The speaker acknowledges that running Birdhouse must have been challenging for Tony.

• Tony agrees that it was exhausting but necessary for making his brand successful.

• He recalls driving with six people in a van across the country to visit skate shops and secure funding for gas, food, and hotel rooms.

• Despite the difficulties, Tony was willing to do whatever it took to make his brand happen.

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The Integration of Skateboarding and Filmmaking

In this section, the speaker discusses the integration of skateboarding and filmmaking in their career. They mention how they still think of themselves as a skateboarder even though they are now a filmmaker. They also talk about the need to integrate different aspects of their interests and how it has shaped their approach to their work.

Integrating Different Passions

• The speaker reflects on how they still consider themselves a skateboarder despite being a filmmaker.

• They mention Spike Jones as an example of someone who successfully integrated skateboarding, BMXing, and filmmaking.

• The speaker acknowledges the challenge of integrating different passions but emphasizes the importance of doing so.

Contemplation vs. Action

• The interviewer asks if the speaker is contemplative or if they simply identify what needs to be done.

• The speaker explains that they focus on setting short-term milestones and taking action rather than spending too much time contemplating.

• They highlight the need for quick decision-making in their past experiences with traveling for skateboarding demos.

Importance of Punctuality

• The speaker mentions learning to respect punctuality while traveling with skaters who were often late.

• They emphasize the importance of respecting other people's time and being punctual when working with others.

• Examples are given of crew members who are punctual and professional in their work.

Balancing Skateboarding with Other Interests

In this section, the discussion revolves around the speaker's ability to balance skateboarding with other hobbies and interests. They talk about maintaining focus on skateboarding while still enjoying activities like surfing, snowboarding, and participating in celebrity car races.

Maintaining Focus on Skateboarding

• The interviewer highlights that many skateboarders get distracted by other hobbies and interests.

• The speaker acknowledges having a lot of other hobbies and interests but emphasizes their commitment to skateboarding as the main focus.

• They mention intentionally pulling away from activities like motocross to avoid risking their skate career.

Other Hobbies and Interests

• The speaker expresses a love for surfing, snowboarding, and music.

• They mention participating in celebrity car races but admit that they don't have the bandwidth to get too serious about it.

• Balancing time between family, skateboarding, and other interests is mentioned as a challenge.

Prioritizing Skateboarding over Other Activities

In this section, the speaker discusses prioritizing skateboarding over other activities. They talk about how certain activities require a significant amount of time and dedication, which may take away from their focus on skateboarding.

Time Commitment of Other Activities

• The speaker mentions the time commitment required for activities like participating in car races or training for events like the Long Beach Grand Prix.

• They express that they don't have enough time to dedicate to these activities while also focusing on skateboarding and family.

Maintaining Focus on Skateboarding

• The interviewer compares the feeling of being pulled away from reading papers and prepping podcasts with how skateboarders feel when not skating for a few days.

• The speaker agrees that after skateboarding for so long, not skating for a few days can create an itch or restlessness.

• They emphasize that skateboarding is deeply ingrained in their nervous system.

Current Schedule and Commitments

In this section, the speaker talks about their current schedule and commitments related to skateboarding. They mention upcoming events and plans involving moving ramps for an event in Salt Lake City.

Moving Ramps for an Event

• The speaker mentions that their ramp is being torn down and moved to Salt Lake City for a big bird event.

• They express their excitement by planning to arrive early at 8:30 AM to have a session before the event.

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Skateboarding and Family

In this section, the speaker discusses their family's involvement in skateboarding and how it has impacted their lives.

Skateboarding as a Family Passion

• The speaker's five sons are all passionate about skateboarding, with the oldest son being a professional skateboarder named Riley.

• Riley has gained recognition in the skateboarding community and has his own following.

• The speaker's other children are also skilled skateboarders in their own ways.

Early Exposure to Skateboarding

• The speaker mentions that Riley became proficient at skateboarding because he was always surrounded by it from a young age.

• However, there came a point when Riley started to shy away from skateboarding due to feeling pressure and expectations from others.

• Eventually, he found a group of friends who shared his love for skating, and they formed their own crew independent of the speaker's influence.

Skateboarding on Vacation

• When the family goes on vacation, the speaker often finds themselves accompanying their children to skate parks instead of engaging in traditional vacation activities.

• Although not personally interested in skate parks, the speaker enjoys supporting their children by acting as their chauffeur and filmer during these outings.

Connection through Frank and Nancy

In this section, the speaker reflects on their connection with Frank and Nancy and how they played a significant role in their life.

Meeting Frank and Nancy

• The speaker had an unexpected encounter with Frank and Nancy that had a profound impact on them as a young skateboarder.

• Despite having reasons not to trust the speaker (due to association with someone named Billy Waldman), Frank and Nancy welcomed them into their home.

A Healthy Family Structure

• The experience of staying with Frank and Nancy gave the speaker insight into what a healthy family structure looks like.

• The speaker was grateful for the love and support they received during their time with Frank and Nancy.

Remembering Frank and Nancy

• The speaker mentions that their father had the opportunity to meet Riley but passed away when Riley was only two years old.

• Their mother witnessed some of Riley's success, but her battle with Alzheimer's dementia caused memories to fade.

• The speaker believes that their father would be amazed by skateboarding becoming an Olympic sport, as he was a sports enthusiast who loved watching competitions.

Reconnecting through Memories

In this section, the speaker discusses how they reconnected with the person they are speaking to through memories of Frank and Nancy.

Reconnecting through Direct Message

• The speaker reached out to the person they are speaking to via direct message, sharing their connection through Frank and Nancy.

• They mentioned that Frank and Nancy took them into their home and shared a specific memory of ordering black coffee after dinner.

Impressionable Experience

• Staying with Frank and Nancy left a lasting impression on the speaker, as it provided them with a glimpse of what a healthy family dynamic looks like.

• The experience influenced certain habits, such as ordering black coffee after dinner.

Supportive Role of Nancy

• Although not directly involved in skateboarding events, Nancy played a supportive role by assisting in organizing events when needed.

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Frank Hawk's Impact on Lost Kids

In this section, the speaker discusses how Frank Hawk had a foreboding and intimidating presence but used it to bring together lost kids and give them a sense of self and purpose. He also mentions that Frank had a rough childhood and tried to make up for it by creating a safe space for his own kids and the kids around him.

Frank Hawk's Influence on Lost Kids

• Frank Hawk was foreboding and intimidating, but he used these qualities to bring together lost kids.

• He gave them a sense of self and purpose, which they lacked before.

• Frank had a difficult childhood, and he tried to compensate for it by creating a safe space for his own children and the kids in their community.

The Sense of Community Created by Frank Hawk

In this section, the speaker talks about how his mother was responsible for bringing people together through gatherings. He reflects on how he and his siblings have not been able to emulate their parents' ability to create such strong connections among people.

Creating a Sense of Community

• The speaker's mother was known for organizing gatherings and bringing people together.

• The speaker regrets not being able to emulate their parents' ability to create strong connections among people.

• Despite this, there is still time for the speaker and their siblings to work on building stronger bonds within their community.

Remembering Frank Hawk as an Intimidating Softy

In this section, the speaker compares Frank Hawk's presence with Clint Eastwood's character in the movie "El Camino." They describe how Frank appeared imposing but was actually quite soft-hearted. The speaker also shares an anecdote about Frank calling their mother to ensure the speaker's safety.

Frank Hawk's Contrasting Personality

• Frank Hawk had a presence similar to Clint Eastwood's character in "El Camino."

• He appeared imposing and stood upright, but he was actually a soft-hearted person.

• Despite his intimidating demeanor, Frank showed a caring side by ensuring the speaker's safety during a trip.

Music as Inspiration for Skateboarding

In this section, the speaker discusses their love for music and its importance in their life. They mention creating playlists specifically tailored to motivate them while skateboarding and share some of the songs that were part of those playlists.

Music as an Inspiration for Skateboarding

• The speaker creates playlists to get motivated and amped up for skateboarding tricks.

• They had a playlist specifically curated for performing a 540 trick.

• Some meaningful songs on their playlist include New Order's "Ceremony" and Nine Inch Nails' "Getting Smaller."

• Punk music played at skate parks became associated with the best times in the speaker's life.

The Power of Paired Association with Music

In this section, the speaker reflects on how certain songs became deeply ingrained in their memory due to paired association with significant moments in skateboarding. They discuss how music can evoke strong emotions and serve as a source of energy.

Paired Association with Music

• Certain songs became deeply ingrained in the speaker's memory due to paired association with skateboarding moments.

• Punk music, such as Sex Pistols, Black Flag, Devo, X Buzzcocks, was associated with the best times in their life.

• Music evokes strong emotions and serves as a source of energy for the speaker.

The Role of Music in Coping and Comebacks

In this section, the speaker discusses how music played a significant role in coping with challenges and making comebacks. They mention specific songs that were part of their playlist during skateboarding sessions.

Music as a Coping Mechanism and for Comebacks

• Music played a significant role in coping with challenges and making comebacks.

• The speaker used music to motivate themselves during skateboarding sessions.

• Specific songs mentioned include "Clamatize" by The Prodigy and Operation Ivy's "Sound System."

Appreciating Tim Armstrong's Music

In this section, the speaker expresses their appreciation for Tim Armstrong's music, particularly his work with Rancid and Operation Ivy. They mention that Tim Armstrong and Jesse Michaels are now playing together again.

Appreciation for Tim Armstrong's Music

• The speaker appreciates Tim Armstrong's music, especially his work with Rancid and Operation Ivy.

• They mention that Tim Armstrong and Jesse Michaels are currently playing together again.

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Yearbook Photos and High School Experience

The speaker discusses their experience with yearbook photos and high school events, highlighting their feeling of being an outcast as a skater.

Yearbook Photos and Graduation

• The speaker graduated from high school but did not attend any events like prom or other auxiliary activities.

• They felt like an outcast in high school because skating was not considered cool, and they didn't have many friends except for two other skaters.

• Despite feeling ostracized, the speaker attended the graduation ceremony because their parents wanted to see it.

High School Experience

• The speaker attended multiple high schools, including Sarah High School, San Diego High School, and Torrey Pines.

• They faced bullying at San Diego High School due to being a skater and eventually requested a transfer.

• Skateboarding was not widely accepted during that time, and skaters were often targeted by others.

• The 80s were particularly rough with jocks versus nerds dynamics, where skaters were not even considered in that realm.

Evolution of Women's Skateboarding

The speaker discusses the evolution of women's skateboarding over the years, from facing ridicule to gaining recognition through social media platforms like Instagram.

Lack of Female Skaters in the Past

• During the speaker's teenage years and early twenties, there were hardly any girls or women involved in skateboarding.

• Female skateboarders like Carabeth Burnside faced teasing and ridicule for their passion for skateboarding.

Rise of Female Skaters

• With the advent of social media platforms like Instagram, more female skateboarders gained visibility and showcased their skills.

• Young girls like Rhys Onvert now excel at skateboarding better than many experienced male skateboarders.

• The speaker mentions other female skateboarders in street skateboarding who take hard falls but continue to push the boundaries.

Pioneers and Inspiration

• Female skaters like Carabeth Burnside and Patty Hoffman planted the seed for more women to pursue skateboarding.

• Skaters like Alyssa Steamer paved the way for legitimate street skating by women.

• Over time, skateboarding became more common and accepted, although it should have always been that way.

Women's Skateboarding in Olympics

The speaker discusses how the inclusion of women's skateboarding in the Olympics has brought about a significant change in perception and acceptance.

Equal Divisions for Men and Women

• The road to qualifying for the Olympic stage required equal divisions and disciplines for both men and women.

• This led to a shift where there was no question about having a women's event; it became necessary for qualification purposes.

Influence of Vance Park Series

• The Vance Park Series held events that emphasized equality across the board, including prize money, attention, and opportunities.

• This approach helped shift perceptions and increased acceptance of women's skateboarding.

Increased Representation

• Nowadays, skateparks see plenty of female skateboarders, including moms and older women learning how to skate.

• The speaker acknowledges that while gender representation may not matter as much, it is inspiring to witness more females participating in skateboarding.

Lindsay Adams' Achievement

The speaker discusses Lindsay Adams' achievement as the first female to do a 540 on vert.

Lindsay Adams' Accomplishment

• Lindsay Adams is recognized as the first female skateboarder to successfully perform a 540 on vert.

• She achieved this after practicing twists on her skateboard while being married to Travis Pastrana, an elite action sports athlete.

Exhibition in Paris

• The speaker recalls a significant exhibition event in Paris at the Grand Palais, where they were expected to perform a 900.

• The organizers also anticipated Lindsay Adams' achievement of the 540 during this event.

Conclusion and Reflection

The speaker reflects on the changes in women's skateboarding and acknowledges the impact of pioneers and equal opportunities.

Shifting Perspectives

• The speaker highlights how perceptions have changed over time, with more acceptance and recognition for women's skateboarding.

• They mention that now, visiting a skatepark reveals a diverse range of female skateboarders, including older women learning to skate.

Impact of Pioneers and Equal Opportunities

• Pioneering female skaters like Carabeth Burnside, Patty Hoffman, and Alyssa Steamer played crucial roles in inspiring other women to pursue skateboarding.

• The inclusion of equal divisions and disciplines for men and women in events like the Olympics has further accelerated the growth of women's skateboarding.

Skating and Trading Hits

In this section, the speaker talks about their experience during a skating event where they were expected to perform certain tricks. They mention how they went through the motions of doing exhibition tricks and attempting difficult tricks like 900s. The speaker also mentions that Lindsay, another skater, started trying 540s due to the energetic atmosphere.

• The speaker performed exhibition tricks while also attempting 900s.

• Lindsay started trying 540s because of the energetic atmosphere.

Show Stopper Moment

In this section, the speaker describes a memorable moment during the skating event. They mention that both Tony and Lindsay missed some of their attempts at tricks. However, Lindsay almost made one but fell at the flat bottom. The speaker then successfully landed a 900 trick which received an enthusiastic response from the crowd.

• Both Tony and Lindsay missed some trick attempts.

• Lindsay almost landed a trick but fell at the flat bottom.

• The speaker successfully landed a 900 trick which excited the crowd.

Lindsay's Impressive Performance

Here, the speaker discusses how Lindsay stole the show with her performance. After the successful completion of their own tricks, they noticed Lindsay putting her tail out on the ramp, indicating she wanted to try again. She eventually landed her first 540 trick, receiving great applause from everyone present.

• Lindsay stole the show with her performance.

• She successfully landed her first 540 trick after multiple attempts.

Rediscovering Skateboarding Through Kids

In this section, the speaker reflects on how skateboarding has evolved over time and how parents now encourage their children to skate. They mention the example of Sky Brown, a young skateboarder, and how her family supports her passion for skateboarding. The speaker also highlights the shift in attitude towards skateboarding, where parents now actively push their kids to learn tricks.

• Skateboarding has become more accepted by parents who now encourage their children to skate.

• Parents like Sky Brown's family support their kids' passion for skateboarding.

• There has been a shift in attitude towards skateboarding, with parents pushing their kids to learn tricks.

Sharing Skateboarding with Future Generations

Here, the speaker expresses admiration for parents who introduce their children to skateboarding and rediscover the joy of skating through them. They mention that when they have kids in the future, they would love to share their own skating experiences and teach them tricks like a sweeper grind.

• Parents who used to skateboard themselves are now sharing the experience with their own children.

• The speaker looks forward to teaching their future kids skateboarding tricks like a sweeper grind.

Changing Attitudes Towards Skateboarding

In this section, the speaker discusses how attitudes towards skateboarding have shifted over time. They mention that during their youth, there were many factors discouraging them from skating. However, nowadays, parents actively encourage their kids to get involved in skateboarding and learn tricks.

• Attitudes towards skateboarding have changed from discouragement to active encouragement by parents.

• During the speaker's youth, there were many factors discouraging them from skating.

Rediscovering Skateboarding Through Kids (Continued)

Continuing from before, the speaker emphasizes that people of their age group (around 47 years old) now have kids who are getting into skateboarding. They find it amazing that these parents can share their own skateboarding experiences with their children and enjoy the activity together.

• People of the speaker's age group now have kids who are getting into skateboarding.

• Parents can share their own skateboarding experiences with their children and enjoy the activity together.

Sharing Skateboarding Tricks

Here, the speaker mentions that they intend to stay healthy so that when they have kids, they can teach them skateboarding tricks like a sweeper grind. They appreciate how younger skateboarders focus on difficult flip tricks while they still enjoy doing Impossibles consistently on transition.

• The speaker intends to stay healthy to teach their future kids skateboarding tricks.

• Younger skateboarders focus on difficult flip tricks, while the speaker enjoys doing Impossibles consistently on transition.

Rodney Mullen and Skateboarding Pioneers

In this section, the speaker acknowledges Rodney Mullen as a pioneer in skateboarding and credits him for popularizing certain tricks. They mention being in touch with Rodney and express gratitude for his influence on their own skating style. The speaker also mentions Mark Gonzalez as another influential skater who contributed to the progression of skateboarding.

• Rodney Mullen is recognized as a pioneer in skateboarding.

• The speaker is in touch with Rodney and appreciates his influence on their skating style.

• Mark Gonzalez is mentioned as another influential skater in the progression of skateboarding.

Learning from Skateboard Pioneers

Here, the speaker discusses how spending time with people who do similar things but differently is beneficial for progress. They mention learning certain tricks like fingertips from Rodney Mullen and how the chemistry within the Bones Brigade skateboarding team contributed to their collective progression.

• Spending time with people who have different approaches but similar interests helps in progress.

• The speaker learned tricks like fingertips from Rodney Mullen.

• The chemistry within the Bones Brigade skateboarding team contributed to their collective progression.

Skateboarding in San Francisco

In this section, the speaker mentions Tommy Guerrero and his impressive skating skills in San Francisco. They highlight the challenges of skating on hilly streets with real-life obstacles like moving buses. The speaker appreciates Tommy's ability to navigate such difficult terrain.

• Tommy Guerrero is recognized for his impressive skating skills in San Francisco.

• Skating in San Francisco involves challenges like hilly streets and moving buses.

Progressing Through Collaboration

Here, the speaker emphasizes that spending time with others who share similar interests or pursuits is crucial for personal progress. They mention flying to Texas to spend time with Peter Attia and Lex Friedman, both podcasters, as a means of collaboration and growth.

• Collaborating with others who share similar interests leads to personal progress.

• The speaker regularly spends time with Peter Attia and Lex Friedman for collaboration and growth.

Skateboarding's Unique Inclusivity

This section discusses the unique inclusivity of skateboarding, where people of different ages and genders can come together to skate and influence each other.

Skateboarding as an Inclusive Sport

• Skateboarding is unique among many sports in that a session or gathering to skateboard includes people of all ages and genders.

• The diversity within skateboarding is incredible, with sessions including both five-year-old children and ten-year-old girls alongside older individuals.

• Unlike other sports like soccer, where professional games are played by specific age groups or genders, skateboarding brings together people from various backgrounds.

Communication and Influence in Skateboarding

• Skaters communicate and influence each other during sessions.

• The speaker shares a conversation with a 10-year-old girl named Rhys who suggests improving his technique for a trick called "540 stand."

• The speaker realizes that he needs to adjust his approach due to his injury, highlighting how skaters of different ages can offer valuable insights to one another.

Representation and Diversity in Skateboarding

• Skateboarding represents inclusivity and diversity.

• It encompasses individuals of different ages, such as the speaker at 55 years old, 30-year-old professionals, up-and-coming 17-year-olds, men, women, and even talented 10-year-old girls who perform tricks never before seen or imagined.

Memorabilia Collection and Autograph Requests

This section explores the topic of memorabilia collection in skateboarding and the experience of being asked for autographs.

Collecting Skateboard Memorabilia

• There is a market for skateboard collectors who collect items such as stickers and skateboards.

• The speaker mentions that some collectors seek autographs from skateboarders because it increases the value of their collection.

Autograph Requests and Challenges

• The speaker discusses his experience with autograph requests.

• Initially, he was open to signing items, especially for skaters or skate fans.

• However, in recent years, there has been an increase in people who solely collect signatures to sell them online.

• Some individuals have gone to extreme lengths to obtain the speaker's flight information and track his whereabouts.

• The speaker finds this behavior intrusive and unsustainable as it hinders his ability to please everyone.

Challenges with Autograph Requests

This section delves deeper into the challenges faced by skateboarders when dealing with autograph requests from different types of individuals.

Differentiating True Skate Fans from Resellers

• It becomes challenging to differentiate true skate fans from resellers who are only interested in obtaining signatures for profit.

• While true skate fans are usually identifiable, the presence of resellers has negatively impacted the overall experience.

Intrusive and Creepy Encounters

• The speaker describes encounters where people approach him for autographs in inappropriate or invasive ways.

• He shares an incident where a group of individuals rushed towards him at airport security, expecting him to sign multiple items before his flight.

• Some individuals even purchase airline tickets solely to gain access past security checkpoints for autographs.

Mixed Feelings about Autograph Requests

• The speaker acknowledges that while some people genuinely want his autograph, the overall experience has become weird and intrusive.

• He humorously suggests telling fans that a neuroscientist advised against signing too many autographs due to its impact on skateboarding skills.

Impact on Public Exhibitions and True Fans' Experience

This section focuses on how the presence of resellers and inappropriate autograph requests have affected public exhibitions and the experience of true skate fans.

Sabotaging True Fans' Experience

• The speaker recounts an incident where a large group of individuals overwhelmed him at airport security, preventing him from signing autographs.

• He expresses his frustration with not being able to differentiate between genuine fans and those who have sabotaged themselves by their behavior.

Difficulty in Identifying True Skate Fans

• The speaker mentions the challenge of identifying true skate fans during public exhibitions or events due to the presence of resellers.

• Despite their efforts to blend in, true skate fans are usually distinguishable from those solely interested in obtaining autographs for profit.

Negative Impact on Autograph Requests

• The increase in resellers and inappropriate autograph requests has negatively impacted the overall experience for both skateboarders and true fans.

• It has become difficult for skateboarders to accommodate everyone's requests while maintaining a positive experience for genuine supporters.

Philanthropic Efforts and Skateboard Project

In this section, Tony Hawk discusses his philanthropic efforts, specifically focusing on the Skateboard Project.

Philanthropy with Kevin Rose and Jim Thibo

• Tony Hawk has done philanthropy work with Kevin Rose from the tech sector.

• Jim Thibo is a current board member of the Skateboard Project.

The Skateboard Project

• The Skateboard Project is Tony Hawk's non-profit organization.

• Its goal is to develop public skate parks in underserved areas by supporting the community and providing resources.

• The organization acts as a resource center for groups trying to establish skate parks in their area.

• They offer advice, funding, and their stamp of approval to these groups.

• To date, they have helped fund almost a thousand skate parks, with hundreds already open.

Importance of Skate Parks

• Tony Hawk emphasizes that skate parks are essential for many kids who choose skateboarding but lack support.

• These skate parks serve as a lifeline for these individuals.

Funding for Skate Parks

• Funding for the Skateboard Project comes from donations from supporters and fundraisers.

• Sometimes funding is funneled through them for specific regions, such as the Built to Play project funded by the Ralph C Wilson Junior Foundation in Michigan and New York.

More Information about the Foundation

• People can find more information about the foundation at where.org.

Priorities and Future Plans

In this section, Tony Hawk discusses his priorities and future plans regarding his family, career, and impact on skateboarding.

Prioritizing Family

• Tony Hawk's top priority is being available for his kids, especially since he still has one child at home for the next four years.

Career Aspirations

• Tony Hawk never had grand career aspirations; he was more focused on specific tricks.

• He would like to continue skating, but he acknowledges that his level of skateboarding may change in the next five years.

Involvement with the Foundation and Skateboarding Advocacy

• Tony Hawk plans to continue working with the foundation and advocating for public skate parks.

• He wants to prioritize activities that will have the furthest-reaching impact on skateboarding as a whole.

• He sees himself as an unofficial ambassador for skateboarding and aims to represent it well, showcasing its true culture.

Enjoyment and Appreciation for Skateboarding

• In the last five to ten years, Tony Hawk has truly enjoyed what skateboarding has provided him in terms of opportunities.

• He has a better appreciation and understanding of skateboarding's significance in his life and his family's life.

• Tony Hawk finds joy in everything related to skateboarding and feels fortunate to have a career doing what he loves.

Gratitude and Acknowledgment

In this section, Tony Hawk expresses gratitude for various aspects of his journey, including inspiring others, resilience, determination, and opportunities.

Thank You Message

• Tony Hawk thanks everyone who supported him throughout his journey.

• He appreciates being able to inspire both young people and older individuals through his achievements on and off the skateboard.

Resilience and Determination

• The speaker acknowledges Tony Hawk's resilience in pushing through injuries and coming back stronger than before.

• It is mentioned that Tony Hawk's love for skateboarding shines through in everything he does.

Stretching into Different Areas

• The video game industry is mentioned as one area where Tony Hawk expanded his reach beyond just skateboarding.

Tony Hawk's Impact on Skateboarding and Philanthropy

In this section, the speaker expresses gratitude for Tony Hawk's contributions to skateboarding and philanthropy. They highlight his unique blend of shrewdness, prudence, punk rock spirit, and goodness instilled by his parents.

Appreciation for Tony Hawk's Legacy

• The speaker acknowledges the positive impact Tony Hawk has had on skateboarding and expresses gratitude for his time and contributions.

• They mention that Tony Hawk's legacy extends beyond skateboarding into the game of life.

• The speaker appreciates how Tony Hawk's ethos of skateboarding shines through in his show and crew, who have connections to the skateboard world.

Support for the Podcast and Sponsors

This section provides information on supporting the podcast through subscriptions, reviews, comments, and sponsorships. It also mentions previous episodes discussing supplements and introduces Momentous Supplements as a partner.

Supporting the Podcast

• Listeners are encouraged to subscribe to the podcast on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts as a way to support it.

• Leaving a five-star review on Spotify or Apple Podcasts is another way to show support.

• Viewers can leave questions or comments about the podcast or suggest guests in the comment section on YouTube.

• The sponsors mentioned at the beginning and throughout each episode should be checked out as they provide valuable support.

Momentous Supplements Partnership

• While not discussed in this particular episode, previous episodes have covered supplements' benefits for sleep improvement, hormone support, focus, etc.

• The huberman Lab podcast has partnered with Momentous Supplements.

• Listeners can access these supplements by visiting livemomentous.com/huberman (20% off).

Neural Network Newsletter and Social Media

This section introduces the Neural Network Newsletter, a free monthly newsletter that includes podcast episode summaries and protocols for various topics. It also mentions following Huberman Lab on social media platforms for science-related content.

Neural Network Newsletter

• The Neural Network Newsletter is a zero-cost monthly newsletter.

• It includes summaries of podcast episodes and protocols covering topics like sleep improvement, neuroplasticity, cold exposure, fitness, and mental health.

• To sign up for the newsletter, visit hubermanlab.com, go to the menu in the corner, scroll down to "newsletter," and provide your email address.

• Email addresses are not shared with anyone.

Following Huberman Lab on Social Media

• Huberman Lab can be found on Instagram, Twitter threads, LinkedIn, Facebook (all platforms).

• Science-related content is shared on these platforms.

• Some content overlaps with the podcast episodes while other content is distinct from it.

Conclusion and Interest in Science

In this final section, gratitude is expressed for Tony Hawk's participation in the discussion. The speaker also thanks viewers for their interest in science.

Gratitude and Conclusion

• The speaker expresses appreciation for Tony Hawk's participation in the discussion.

• They thank viewers for their interest in science.

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