Psicofisiología Clínica con Mauricio González - Episodio 245

Psicofisiología Clínica con Mauricio González - Episodio 245

Introduction to Psychophysiology

Overview of the Podcast

  • The podcast "Psicoflix" is aimed at psychologists and focuses on improving professional practices in psychology through discussions on strategies, techniques, and contemporary news backed by scientific evidence.
  • Episode 245 will delve into clinical psychophysiology, a topic that has not been extensively covered in previous episodes.

Guest Introduction

  • The host introduces Mauricio González, a neuroscientist and educator from Mexico, highlighting his expertise and contributions to the field.
  • Mauricio expresses his excitement about being on the podcast and shares his admiration for it.

Mauricio González's Background

Daily Life and Work

  • Mauricio describes his daily routine as divided among various roles: researcher at UNAM's neurophysiology lab focusing on healthy brain aging, university lecturer teaching psychology courses, and engaging in public outreach.

Research Focus

  • His research includes developing neurofeedback protocols aimed at preventing cognitive decline in older adults.

Interests Beyond Academia

Personal Interests

  • In his free time, Mauricio enjoys relaxing with friends and playing Ultimate Frisbee, which he finds physically demanding yet enjoyable.

Mathematics in Psychology

Transition from Mathematics to Psychology

  • Mauricio discusses how he initially studied mathematics before switching to psychology. He emphasizes the importance of mathematical skills in research for logical thinking.

Decision-Making Process

  • He explains that while he appreciated mathematics, he ultimately chose psychology due to its scientific nature and strong emphasis on neuroscience within the curriculum at UNAM.

Understanding the Integration of Neuroscience and Psychology

The Relationship Between Neuroscience and Psychobiology

  • The speaker discusses their experience at the Faculty of Psychology, highlighting strong communication between neurociences and psychobiology, leading to collaborative projects.
  • They emphasize a harmonious integration of both fields in psychophysiology, suggesting that knowledge from both areas is essential for understanding psychological phenomena.

Challenges with Quantitative and Biological Aspects in Psychology

  • The speaker raises questions about students' aversion to quantitative subjects like statistics and biology, which are often perceived as difficult.
  • They note that this aversion is particularly pronounced in Spain, where these subjects are seen as challenging within psychology programs.

Initial Reactions to Complex Psychological Concepts

  • Students typically exhibit initial rejection when confronted with complex topics such as learning principles or neurotransmitters.
  • There is a contrast between students’ expectations of popular psychology versus the scientific foundations they encounter in academic settings.

Bridging Popular Psychology and Scientific Understanding

  • As discussions deepen into practical examples linking animal behavior models to human conduct, students begin to show greater acceptance and interest.
  • The speaker critiques the prevalence of pseudoscience in media portrayals of psychology, which can mislead public perception.

Explaining Behavioral Phenomena Through Aristotelian Causes

  • A reference is made to an article by Peter Killeen discussing Aristotle's four causes (efficient, formal, final, material), emphasizing their relevance for understanding behavior.
  • It’s noted that while behavioral analysis may focus on certain causes, neuroscience can provide insights into material causes that complement behavioral explanations.

Biological Underpinnings of Behavior

  • The discussion highlights how biological systems interact with environmental stimuli to influence behavior over time.
  • Changes in biological systems due to experiences shape future behaviors; thus understanding these changes is crucial for comprehending human actions.

Practical Applications of Psychophysiology

  • The speaker reflects on the gap between theoretical knowledge acquired during studies and practical application post-graduation.
  • They advocate for bridging theory with practice through effective communication strategies used by educators like Eduardo Polin.

Understanding Psychophysiology

Defining Psychophysiology

  • The speaker emphasizes the need to define psychophysiology, distinguishing it from related terms like neuropsychology and psychobiology, which are often conflated.
  • While all these fields explore the intersection of biological and psychological phenomena, they employ different methods and approaches.

Key Concepts in Psychophysiology

  • Psychophysiology examines how behaviors affect physiological phenomena and vice versa, highlighting a bidirectional relationship between conduct and physiology.
  • In applied settings, psychophysiology seeks to utilize knowledge from psychology and neuroscience to help individuals modify significant aspects of their physiology through behavioral procedures.

Practical Applications

  • An example used is muscle mass development: consistent training leads to physiological adaptations (muscle hypertrophy), which in turn can enhance performance in daily activities.
  • The discussion extends to future scenarios such as colonization on Mars, where altered environmental conditions could impact human behavior and physiology.

Clinical Implications

  • The speaker notes that clinical psychologists often focus narrowly on typical psychological disorders but should also consider broader applications of psychology in lifestyle medicine.
  • Lifestyle medicine emphasizes habits that psychologists are well-equipped to address due to their understanding of behavior.

Somatization Explained

  • The conversation shifts towards somatization; the speaker expresses skepticism about its traditional definitions rooted in psychoanalysis.
  • Somatization can be better understood through physiological responses linked with behaviors, particularly during anxiety episodes where chronic stress responses occur without physical action.

Understanding the Connection Between Psychological Processes and Physical Symptoms

The Body's Response to Psychological Stress

  • The body attempts to maintain functionality, but this effort can lead to various functional alterations, explaining physical symptoms stemming from psychological phenomena.
  • Physiological responses accompany behavioral reactions; chronic stress can negatively impact health if not addressed properly.

The Role of the Vagus Nerve

  • The vagus nerve is unique among cranial nerves as it extends into the thorax and abdomen, controlling many physiological functions such as respiration and heart rate.
  • It operates within the parasympathetic system, which activates during rest and social interactions, crucial for digestion.
  • Chronic anxiety or stress shifts physiological responses towards the sympathetic system, diminishing vagal activation over time.

Interventions Targeting the Vagus Nerve

  • Working with the vagus nerve aims to enhance parasympathetic activation, counteracting stress and anxiety responses.
  • Vagal nerve stimulation has shown efficacy in treating conditions like treatment-resistant epilepsy and depression through surgical implantation or external electrical stimulation methods.
  • While external stimulation techniques are promising, they require further research; caution is advised against viewing them as miraculous solutions.

Neuromyths in Psychophysiology

  • One harmful neuromyth suggests that cancer has an emotional basis; however, cancer fundamentally has a physiological origin. This misconception can deter individuals from seeking appropriate medical treatment.
  • Emotional regulation skills may benefit patients by promoting a balanced physiology that aids in combating illness more effectively.

Misconceptions About Emotions and Health

  • Another common myth is that psychophysiological issues underlie all medical problems; while they play a significant role in some functional disorders, they do not account for every health issue.
  • It's also incorrect to associate specific emotions with particular organs since individual physiological responses vary widely even among similar emotional experiences.

Discussion on EMDR and Psychophysiology

Insights on EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing)

  • The speaker expresses skepticism about the efficacy of EMDR, noting that while studies show its effectiveness for PTSD, it lacks a solid theoretical foundation.
  • They argue that clinical evidence alone is insufficient to classify an intervention as scientific; true scientific backing requires a theoretical basis.
  • The speaker remains critical of EMDR, stating they do not recommend it to clients and question the validity of trademarked therapies.

Understanding Trauma Responses

  • It is noted that not everyone exposed to trauma develops PTSD, indicating potential genetic or epigenetic vulnerabilities.
  • Neurophysiological changes occur in individuals after trauma, leading to altered emotional processing and autonomic responses.

The Cycle of Physiological Responses

  • A concept of maladaptive brain plasticity is introduced, where physiological adaptations can worsen symptoms rather than alleviate them.
  • This creates a feedback loop where physiological states affect behavior and vice versa, complicating recovery from trauma.

Dopamine Myths and Misconceptions

Critique of Dopamine Fasting

  • The speaker dismisses the idea of "dopamine fasting," arguing that reducing dopamine levels could lead to severe neurological issues similar to Parkinson's disease.
  • They suggest that delaying gratification should be understood through behavioral principles rather than neurochemical theories.

Misinterpretation of Neuroscience

  • There’s concern over how neuroscience is often misapplied in popular discussions, giving undue credibility without proper context or understanding.

Biofeedback in Clinical Practice

Introduction to Biofeedback

  • Biofeedback is presented as a tool in psychophysiology aimed at improving physiological functioning through behavioral strategies.

Components of Psychophysiological Assessment

  • Key elements include measuring various physiological signals such as skin conductance, peripheral temperature, electromyography (muscle activity), respiration rate, and heart rate variability.

Stress Profiling Techniques

  • Typical stress profiles involve cognitive stressors like arithmetic tasks or physical stressors such as cold pressure tests to assess physiological responses.

Understanding Psychophysiological Interventions

The Role of Emotional and Physiological Factors

  • Discusses the strong physiological responses tied to emotional experiences, particularly during stressful episodes related to a person's consultation reason.
  • Suggests that asking individuals to type their experiences can help assess their computer work ergonomics, which significantly impacts psychophysiological health.

Assessment Tools in Psychophysiology

  • Mentions the use of brain mapping (or cartography) as a complementary tool for evaluating specific respiratory functions.
  • Introduces neuropsychological screening tools to evaluate cognitive domains like tension and working memory; referrals are made if abnormalities are detected.
  • Emphasizes the importance of functional analysis in behavioral interviews to understand problematic responses leading individuals to seek therapy.

Intervention Strategies

  • Describes moving into intervention phases after gathering information, highlighting Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) as an example model used.
  • Notes that psychophysiological interventions always include monitoring physiological signals during sessions, such as skin conductance or heart rate.

Benefits of Psychophysiological Monitoring

  • Highlights how real-time feedback from physiological data informs both therapists and clients about emotional states during therapy sessions.
  • Illustrates how clients may recognize discrepancies between their verbal claims of emotional detachment and actual physiological responses observed on monitors.

Biofeedback Techniques

  • Defines biofeedback as operant conditioning applied to physiological responses, where clients receive feedback through computer programs tailored to their needs.
  • Critiques misconceptions surrounding biofeedback technologies, emphasizing its scientific basis over pseudoscientific claims like "quantum biofeedback."

Accessibility and Concerns with Health Technology

  • Speculates on future technological advancements making psychophysiological tools more accessible while expressing hope for improved public understanding.
  • Discusses concerns regarding smartwatches providing health metrics without proper user education, potentially leading to unhealthy obsessions with data interpretation.
  • Warned against casual interpretations of health metrics by companies like Apple without accompanying educational resources for users.

Therapeutic Approaches in Psychophysiology

Accessibility and Cost of Equipment

  • The high cost of comprehensive physiological signal recording equipment limits access for therapists interested in psychophysiology, making treatments expensive for end users.

Biofeedback Interventions for Migraines

  • Discussion on the potential of biofeedback as an intervention method for migraines, highlighting the need to evaluate triggers and worsening situations.
  • Emphasis on starting biofeedback treatment with respiratory training and heart rate variability to help patients learn effective breathing techniques.

Importance of Proper Breathing Techniques

  • Proper breathing should be between 10-12 breaths per minute at rest; women may have slightly higher rates (12-14 breaths).
  • The diaphragm is the primary muscle used in respiration, promoting abdominal breathing while minimizing shoulder movement.

Physiological Responses and Monitoring

  • Maintaining appropriate levels of carbon dioxide is crucial for physiological function; dysfunctional respiratory patterns are more common than assumed.
  • After mastering breathing techniques, focus shifts to heart rate variability to balance sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system responses.

Common Signals Used in Migraine Treatment

  • Hemoelectroencephalography measures cerebral blood flow; patients learn to decrease arousal associated with migraine-related vasodilation.
  • Peripheral temperature increase can also be monitored using a plethysmograph, which assesses blood flow changes relevant to migraine management.

Resources for Further Learning

Recommended Literature and Organizations

  • Two notable books on clinical psychophysiology by Jaime Vila and Simón Arced Acevedo are available from Editorial Pirámide in Spain.
  • Mention of the Spanish Society of Biofeedback and Neurofeedback (SEBINE), along with the Mexican Society of Biofeedback, which serves a broader Latin American audience.

Online Resources

  • Dr. Mauricio's YouTube channel "Neuros Sapiens" offers interviews and videos related to psychophysiology. He also shares insights across social media platforms like Facebook, TikTok, and Instagram under the same username.

Upcoming Events

Future Discussions

  • Reminder about an upcoming webinar on March 20 featuring Ramón Nogueras. Next week's episode will feature Natalia Andrés López discussing therapeutic interaction from a gender perspective.
Video description

Hoy en ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Psicoflix⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ hablamos sobre la Psicofisiología Clínica. Nuestro invitado para este episodio es Mauricio González, Doctor en Neurociencias de la Conducta, neurocientífico, investigador, docente universitario y divulgador científico en su canal Neurosapiens. 📩 Suscríbete a nuestra newsletter y webinar gratuitos ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠aquí: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://psicoflix.com/webinar/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📚 Accede a nuestra suscripción con clases semanales con referentes en psicología: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://formacion.psicoflix.com/bundles/suscripcion⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ En el episodio de hoy hablamos entre otras cosas de: - Neurociencias conductuales y Análisis de la Conducta - La psicofisiología como disciplina - Causas materiales en la neurociencia de la conducta - Intersección entre lo conductual y lo fisiológico - La somatización desde la psicofisiología - Mitos de la psicofisiología clínica - Presencia de pseudociencias como la bioneuroemoción, biodescodificación, o los ayunos de dopamina - Evidencias de la teoría polivagal o del EMDR - Los trastornos psicofisiológicos - Biofeedback: condicionamiento operante de respuestas fisiológicas - Hipervigilancia a la salud - Técnicas psicofisiológicas de evaluación - Intervención con biofeedback en migraña Bibliografía relacionada: - Una introducción a la psicofisología clínica - Jaime Vila Castellar - Manual de psicofisiología clínica - Miguel Ángel Simón y Elena Amenedo - SEBINE: Sociedad Española de Bio y Neurofeedback - SMBN: Sociedad Mexicana de Bio y Neurofeedback  - AAPB: Association for Applied Psychophysiology and Biofeedback Redes de Mauricio González: - Youtube: @NeuroSapiens | http://www.youtube.com/@NeuroSapiens - Instagram: @dr.mauriciogl | https://www.instagram.com/dr.mauriciogl/ - Facebook: Dr. Mauricio Gonzalez Lopez | https://www.facebook.com/dr.mauriciogl - Tiktok: @dr.mauriciogl | https://www.tiktok.com/@dr.mauriciogl Nos vemos el próximo jueves a las 20.00 con un nuevo episodio en el que hablaremos de la interacción terapéutica con perspectiva de género con Natalia Andrés López. ¡Te esperamos por aquí! Estamos abiertos a cualquier sugerencia, así que no dudes en contactar con nosotros.