LECTURA DE LA APOLOGÍA (III) LA DIGNIDAD | cap 13 (Sócrates y Platón)

LECTURA DE LA APOLOGÍA (III) LA DIGNIDAD | cap 13 (Sócrates y Platón)

The Paradox of Justice and Dignity in Socrates' Trial

Introduction to the Dilemma

  • The speaker questions how more people voted for the death penalty than for guilt, highlighting a paradox where many considered Socrates innocent yet condemned him.
  • The concept of dignity is introduced as crucial, with individuals willing to sacrifice their lives rather than lose it. This sets the stage for understanding Socrates' final words.

Socrates’ Final Discourse

  • Chapter 13 focuses on concluding Socrates' speech before the Athenian assembly, emphasizing his condemnation to death after being deemed guilty.
  • There’s an exploration of why many who voted for his innocence still chose death; this contradiction leads to deeper reflections on justice and societal values.

Reflection on Time and Wisdom

  • Socrates addresses the assembly about their hasty decision, suggesting that had they waited, he would have died naturally due to old age (70 years).
  • He warns that Athens will be remembered negatively for executing a wise man, framing this act as a significant historical error.

The Cost of Dignity

  • Socrates argues that avoiding death at any cost is not justifiable; he emphasizes maintaining dignity over life itself.
  • He posits that losing dignity renders life unworthy; thus, one should not compromise integrity merely to prolong existence.

Conclusion: Life vs. Dignity

  • In closing, Socrates contrasts his impending death with the assembly's loss of dignity, asserting that while he loses life, they lose what makes life meaningful.

Socrates on Death and Virtue

The Nature of Death and Morality

  • Socrates reflects on the various means to avoid death, suggesting that while it may be possible to evade physical demise through cunning, escaping moral corruption is far more challenging.
  • He contrasts his own fate with that of his accusers, who he believes are quicker to succumb to moral failings than he is to death.
  • Socrates asserts that while he faces death, his accusers face a deeper loss—moral integrity—implying that true worth lies in virtue rather than mere survival.

Perspectives on the Afterlife

  • Socrates contemplates the nature of death as either a deep sleep or a transition of the soul to another realm, both scenarios presenting no fear for him.
  • He expresses excitement about the possibility of meeting historical figures in the afterlife, viewing it as an opportunity for profound dialogue and learning.
  • The idea of conversing with great minds like Orpheus and Homer excites him; he sees this potential interaction as a form of happiness unattainable in life.

The Value of Inquiry

  • Socrates emphasizes his desire to continue examining wisdom in the afterlife just as he has done throughout his life, indicating that inquiry is central to human existence.
  • He suggests that engaging with legendary figures would provide immense joy and fulfillment, reinforcing his belief in the importance of philosophical discourse.

Final Thoughts on Justice

  • Socrates imagines questioning historical leaders about their decisions, highlighting how such dialogues could illuminate truths about justice and morality.
  • He reassures himself that even if condemned again in this hypothetical afterlife scenario, it would not diminish his commitment to seeking truth through conversation.

Legacy and Responsibility

  • In concluding remarks, Socrates requests that when his children grow up, they should be held accountable for any similar faults he exhibited during his life regarding virtue over material concerns.
  • He acknowledges that while others may believe they are harming him by condemning him to death, they inadvertently fulfill a greater purpose by allowing him peace in pursuing truth beyond mortal existence.

Christianity and Dignity: A Philosophical Exploration

The Role of Evangelists in Storytelling

  • The speaker compares evangelists to successful Hollywood screenwriters, suggesting they have been "selling tickets" for 2000 years through their narratives.
  • Jesus is likened to a "lone ranger," emphasizing the idea of individuals who are deeply convinced of their beliefs and act accordingly.

Dignity in Life Choices

  • The speaker recalls a documentary about Salvador Allende's last days, highlighting the importance of dignity over life itself.
  • During the bombing of La Moneda, some chose to stay with Allende despite being offered freedom, illustrating their commitment to dignity.

Reflections on Personal Integrity

  • One interviewee expressed that staying was essential for self-respect; losing dignity means living without true self-worth.
  • Kant’s philosophy is introduced, stating that one should maintain integrity even when faced with authority or pressure.

The Essence of Human Dignity

  • Kant's notion that one's soul inclines towards those with greater character highlights the intrinsic value of human dignity.
  • This inclination occurs regardless of personal will, showcasing how certain figures command respect and admiration.

Cinematic Representations of Dignity

  • The speaker suggests that compelling characters in films evoke deep emotional responses, leading audiences to respect their dignity.
  • Examples include Spartacus and Western films where protagonists embody moral integrity amidst chaos.

Law and Freedom Interconnectedness

  • The discussion transitions into Kant's ideas on law and freedom; true law must align with preserving human dignity.
  • Authentic laws represent a framework for freedom rather than tyranny; maintaining dignity guides legal obligations.

Practical Reasoning in Philosophy

  • Kant’s categorical imperative emphasizes acting in ways that could be universalized as law; this reinforces personal responsibility towards dignity.
  • Characters who uphold dignified behavior often emerge as representatives of justice within narratives, reflecting philosophical ideals.

Philosophy and Plato's Dialogues

The Importance of Plato's Dialogues

  • The speaker references Whitehead, suggesting that the entirety of philosophy can be seen as footnotes to Plato's dialogues, emphasizing their foundational role in philosophical discourse.
  • Acknowledgment is made of the significance of reading passages from "Phaedon," which will be crucial for understanding the course material being presented.
Video description

¿Qué es eso a lo que llamamos dignidad? No es tan fácil saberlo. Se trata, en realidad, de uno de los hilos conductores que recorren toda la Historia de la Filosofía: “por algún motivo”, la frase es de Kant, “las personas se niegan a perder, por amor a la vida, aquello que hace a la vida digna de ser vivida”. Pues bien, este es el tema que introduce Sócrates al final de su discurso ante la asamblea de los atenienses. En este capítulo, vamos a terminar nuestra lectura de la Apología, aprovechando, de este modo, para relacionar lo que dice Sócrates (en este diálogo de Platón) con el hilo conductor de la Crítica de la razón práctica de Kant, y ya de paso, con lo que fue el esquema más elemental de las películas del oeste que tanto se produjeron en Hollywood, con guionistas y directores que fueron, algunos de ellos, impresionantes (como por ejemplo John Ford, sobre quien dejamos un artículo magnífico de Santiago Alba Rico en esta misma descripción). ❗📺 La última decisión de Salvador Allende: 👉 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INNGpEXVf-I ❗📰 Magnífico artículo de Santiago Alba Rico sobre las películas de John Ford: 👉 https://ctxt.es/es/20210301/Firmas/35466/john-ford-peliculas-santiago-alba-rico-moral-cine.htm --- 0:00 Presentación 0:36 ¿Qué es eso a lo que llamamos dignidad? 0:40 Recapitulación de nuestra lectura de la Apología 2:09 Lectura de la despedida de Sócrates 5:47 No hay que evitar la muerte a costa de perder la dignidad 6:17 Kant y la razón práctica: vida y dignidad 7:20 “Aquello por lo que merece la pena estar vivo” 9:27 Reflexión sobre la muerte 13:39 Kant: un argumento irresistible para la atención humana. 15:17 Las películas de Hollywood 16:00 El llanero solitario. Jesús, Sócrates, Espartaco… 16:28 El ejemplo de Salvador Allende 18:08 Un texto de Kant 21:04 Ley y Libertad 21:46 El imperativo categórico 23:24 El uso práctico de la razón 23:52 Despedida --- Pintura e Ilustraciones (por orden de aparición):- - La escuela de Atenas (1512) (animación) Rafael Sanzio.​ - Sócrates hablando" (1867) de Louis J.Lebrun. - Canova. Socrates Sending Away His Family (end 18th c., Possagno, Gipsoteca Canoviana) - No identificada - Canova. Socrates Defending Himself Before the Judges (end 18th c., Possagno, Gipsoteca Canoviana) - Saint-Quentin. The Death of Socrates (1762, Paris, École des Beaux-Arts). - La muerte de Sócrates (1787). (La Mort de Socrate) Jacques-Louis David. - La escuela de Atenas (1512) (animación) Rafael Sanzio.​ - The Death of Socrates Jean-François Pierre Peyron --- Twitter: https://twitter.com/FdezLiriaCarlos​ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/carlosferna...​ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CFerliria/​ --- "Music by SfxValley" https://goo.gl/Yf2nxG​ Thumbnail: Salvador Allende y lentes de Salvador Allende.