Cem Karsan - Insider’s Guide to Volatility Hedges
Introduction
This section introduces the Mutiny Investing Podcast and features a conversation between Jason Buck, CIO at Mutiny Fund, and Jem Carson of Egea Capital.
Introducing the Mutiny Investing Podcast
- The podcast features long-form conversations on topics relating to investing markets, risk volatility, and complex systems.
Conversation with Jem Carson
- Jem Carson is the Managing Director of Egea Capital.
- Egea Capital specializes in volatility arbitrage.
- The conversation will cover long convexity, long skew with long vega, Garyvana, and charm.
Background
This section covers Jim's background.
Early Life
- Jim grew up in London but spent every summer in Turkey. His parents are Turkish.
- He moved to Texas as a child because his dad was an oil industry PhD structural engineer.
- He lived all over the world as a kid and went to prep school on the east coast to Andover.
Education
- Jim studied financial mathematics along with policy at Rice University.
- He debated whether to go do school of foreign service or really go to the math quantitative side which was always his other leaning coming from his structural engineer father.
Trading Experience
This section covers Jim's trading experience.
First Job Trading
- Jim started trading full-time in 1999 after getting his first experience during the summer of 98 right after Long-Term Capital Management's collapse which informed a lot of his view of supply and demand.
- He started in the pits in Chicago and moved into an important role at RBC Dominion Securities as head of equity options really early two years in because the gentleman in front of him left and started a proprietary trading group here in Chicago Belvedere.
Starting a Market Making Firm
In this section, the speaker talks about how he started a market making firm and grew it to become one of the biggest market making groups in the indices.
Starting a Business Forum
- John Mulhern hired the speaker to start a business forum for Bear Stearns.
- The business forum was built out to almost 30 traders across various exchanges.
- The speaker's goal was to diversify away from their specialist business.
Building a Market Making Firm
- After leaving Bear Stearns, the speaker started his own market making firm with some colleagues.
- The timing was good as the bull markets were picking up in late 2007.
- By 2008, they became one of the biggest market making groups in the S&P 500 and indices.
- They grew their several million dollar investment into many multiples of that number.
Transitioning from Market Making to Investing
In this section, the speaker talks about his transition from market making to investing and starting his own hedge fund.
Exiting Market Making Business
- After selling his market making firm, the speaker decided to take a step back from market making and start investing his own money separately.
- He managed his own capital on the side with a structured trade that diversified his long real estate and equity positions.
Starting GIA Capital
- The structured trade made him realize there was an opportunity for other people to join along.
- He talked to friends who encouraged him to bring on other investors, which led him to start GIA Capital in 2011.
Being an Entrepreneur vs. Being a Trader
In this section, the speaker talks about being an entrepreneur and a trader, and how he enjoys building things, teaching, and working with employees.
Being an Entrepreneur
- The speaker enjoyed being an entrepreneur because of the part about building things that really appeals to him.
- He also loves teaching and working with employees to build a better mousetrap.
- He learned from other people as well.
Being a Trader
- The speaker had to be both an entrepreneur and a trader.
- He bridged the divide between being an entrepreneur and a trader because he had skills in both areas.
Starting GIA Capital
In this section, the speaker talks about starting GIA Capital after selling his market making firm.
Starting GIA Capital
- After selling his market making firm, the speaker started managing his own capital on the side with a structured trade.
- He realized there was an opportunity for other people to join along after talking to friends who encouraged him to bring on other investors.
- He took some time off before starting GIA Capital.
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