Another Housing Crash? How More Rate Hikes Will Impact Home Prices | Ivy Zelman

Another Housing Crash? How More Rate Hikes Will Impact Home Prices | Ivy Zelman

Overview of the Housing Market

In this section, Ivy Zelman discusses the current state of the housing market and its resilience despite a softening economy. She emphasizes the importance of jobs and consumer confidence in driving demand for housing.

Resilience of the Housing Market

  • The housing market is not expected to experience a severe downturn.
  • Despite a softening economy, the overall market has shown surprising resilience.
  • Consumer confidence in jobs plays a crucial role in maintaining demand for housing.

Factors Driving Resilience

  • Jobs and consumer confidence are more important than affordability in determining housing market performance.
  • Secular pressure on mobility due to an aging population reduces people's inclination to move.
  • Historically low interest rates have disincentivized people from selling their homes, leading to limited inventory.

Impact on Pricing

  • Limited inventory has given available units more pricing power.
  • Homes located in desirable areas with amenities or good school districts may see multiple bids.
  • Homes in less desirable locations may take longer to sell.

Growth of New Home Market

Ivy Zelman discusses the growth of the new home market and its increasing share of transactions compared to existing homes. She also addresses concerns about inventory shortages and construction starts.

Increase in New Home Market Share

  • Pre-pandemic, new home transactions accounted for about 12% of total sales.
  • Post-pandemic, new home transactions are estimated to be closer to 17% during the first half of 2023.

Inventory Shortages

  • Limited inventory is expected to continue, especially for new homes.
  • Residential construction starts have seen a slight increase but may not catch up with demand soon.

Builders' Response

  • Publicly traded home builders are gaining market share compared to private builders.
  • Builders are building more speculative homes due to strong market dynamics and demand resilience.

Performance of Resale Market vs. New Home Market

Ivy Zelman compares the performance of the resale market and the new home market, highlighting multiple bid situations and factors influencing sales.

Resale Market

  • The resale market can experience significant multiple bid situations depending on factors such as home condition, price point, and location.

New Home Market Outperformance

  • The new home market is outperforming the resale market in terms of sales and demand.
  • Factors such as location, amenities, and good school districts contribute to the new home market's success.

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Dynamics of the Market and Affordability

The speaker discusses how the dynamics of the market are influenced by the strength of the economy, job growth, wage inflation, consumer confidence, and affordability. They also mention factors such as wealth transfer and people moving from high-cost states to low-cost states.

Factors Driving Market Strength

  • Job growth, wage inflation, and consumer confidence contribute to the strength of the market.
  • Affordability is stretched about 20% above historic trend lines.
  • Wealth transfer from older generations to younger ones helps with down payments or outright purchase of houses.
  • People moving from high-cost states to low-cost states contributes to affordability.

Mortgage Rates and Concerns

  • Majority of homeowners currently have mortgage rates below 5%.
  • Fixed-rate mortgages are more common than variable rates.
  • Concern for investors who rely on short-term rentals for passive income due to higher costs and lower income potential.

Affordability and Potential Impact of a Recession

The speaker discusses how affordability is currently stretched above trend lines due to rising interest rates. They also address concerns about a potential recession impacting people's ability to finance their homes.

Affordability Challenges

  • Affordability is currently 20% - 25% higher than historic trend lines due to rising interest rates.
  • Income levels have not been significantly impacted yet but could be under pressure in the future.

Impact of a Recession

  • Historically, housing market deflation has been regional rather than national after recessions.
  • National deflation is not expected in the near future, with a possibility of modest deflation in 2024 if there is an economic downturn.

Urban vs Suburban Housing Market

The speaker discusses the housing market trends between urban and suburban areas, including the impact of remote work and changes in residents' locations.

Urban vs Suburban Trends

  • The shift back to urban markets has not been significant despite some changes due to remote or hybrid work arrangements.
  • Some residents who left states entirely due to remote work requirements have caused disruptions in certain markets.

Impact of the Pandemic on Urban Markets

This section discusses the impact of the pandemic on urban markets, specifically focusing on rent prices and trends.

Decrease in Rents in Urban Markets

  • Some urban markets like San Francisco and New York have seen a decrease in overall rents during the pandemic.
  • The trend of decreasing rents may reverse after the pandemic is over.

Deceleration of Rents in Suburban Markets

  • Rents in suburban markets are also decelerating.
  • The supply of housing is more substantial in suburban areas, leading to increased capital investment and lower rents.

Factors Affecting Urban and Suburban Markets

  • Crime rates, homelessness, and office market conditions are deterring people from returning to urban markets.
  • The presence of these factors affects the desirability of urban areas for both residents and investors.

Considerations for Homebuyers During Uncertain Times

This section addresses considerations for individuals who are contemplating purchasing a home during uncertain times such as a potential recession and fluctuating interest rates.

Cost of Ownership

  • The cost of homeownership is negatively affected by higher interest rates.
  • Insurance costs have surged significantly, adding to the expenses associated with owning a home.

Hidden Costs and Location Selection

  • There is complacency regarding hidden costs associated with homeownership.
  • People moving to various locations may face worsening headwinds related to these hidden costs.
  • Selectivity in choosing a location based on risk factors such as climate change regulations is crucial.

First-Time Homebuyers' Decision-Making

  • First-time homebuyers should consider their need for a home and whether they have financial support or cushion from family or other sources.
  • Without any financial security, first-time buyers should be cautious, especially in certain geographic markets.

Fixed vs. Variable Interest Rates

  • Currently, it is more likely for first-time homebuyers to lock in the best rate available.
  • Some buyers may opt for variable rates if they anticipate refinancing when rates decrease.

Mortgage Market Dynamics and Cap Rates

This section discusses mortgage market dynamics and cap rates, focusing on the impact of interest rates on variable and fixed-rate mortgages.

Variable Rates vs. Fixed Rates

  • Variable rates may be higher than fixed rates due to investor expectations of future rate decreases.
  • Mortgage market pricing is influenced by risk appetite, concerns about distress or prepayment risks, and upcoming economic indicators such as FOMC meetings and CPI data.

Cap Rates and Value of Properties

  • Cap rates have expanded compared to five years ago due to the higher interest rate environment.
  • The value of properties could be at risk due to factors like insurance costs and the overall cost of homeownership.

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Video description

Ivy Zelman, Co-Founder of Zelman & Associates, discusses the main drivers of the housing market and what's next for home affordability. *This video was recorded on July 10, 2023 FOLLOW IVY ZELMAN: Zelman & Associates: https://www.zelmanassociates.com/ Zelman & Associates Twitter (@zelmanresearch): https://twitter.com/zelmanresearch Ivy Zelman Twitter (@Ivy_Zelman): https://twitter.com/Ivy_Zelman Housing Summit Event Page: https://www.meetmax.com/sched/event_96353/conference_home.html?bank_access=0&event_id=96353 Special Discount: Email Kim Gray – kim@zelmanassociates.com to register and mention this podcast for a 25% discount! Housing Summit Agenda: https://www.meetmax.com/sched/event_96353/__agenda_cp.html FOLLOW DAVID LIN: Twitter (@davidlin_TV): https://twitter.com/davidlin_TV TikTok (@davidlin_TV): https://www.tiktok.com/@davidlin_tv Instagram (@davidlin_TV): https://www.instagram.com/davidlin_tv/ For business inquiries, reach me at david@thedavidlinreport.com *This video is not financial advice. The channel is not responsible for the performance of sponsors and affiliates. 0:00 - Intro 1:00 - home price direction 3:30 - Housing starts 6:50 - Mortgage rates 10:14 - Urban cities rent 12:50 - Cost of ownership 15:46 - Cap rates 16:40 - Foreign ownership 18:56 - Rising insurance costs 22:00 - Airbnb 24:40 - Demographics 25:50 - Zelman & Associates 27:50 - Resilience of the market #realestate #housing #economy