La declaración íntegra de Zapatero ante el juez Calama

Inicio de la declaración de José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero

Derechos y Procedimientos Legales

• El testigo, José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, es informado sobre su derecho a no declarar ante el juez o fiscal.

• Se confirma que responderá solo a las preguntas del juez y su abogado defensor.

Formación Académica y Trayectoria Profesional

• Zapatero se presenta como licenciado en derecho por la Universidad de León, siendo parte de la primera promoción.

• Menciona su experiencia como profesor de derecho constitucional en la misma universidad antes de entrar en política.

• Fue diputado por León desde 1986 y presidente del gobierno entre 2004 y 2011.

Relación con Julio Martínez

Contexto Personal y Profesional

• Expresa agradecimiento por el aplazamiento de su comparecencia y reafirma que todos los ciudadanos son iguales ante la ley.

• Declara que no ha ejercido influencia alguna en el rescate de Plus Ultra, asegurando que toda su actividad profesional ha sido legal.

Amistad con Julio Martínez

• La relación con Julio Martínez comenzó alrededor de 2011, basada en una amistad compartida por correr.

• Aclara que esta relación se tornó profesional solo en 2020 cuando Martínez le propuso ser consultor para su empresa "Análisis Relevante".

Consultoría y Análisis Relevante

Creación de Análisis Relevante

• La consultora fue constituida por Julio Martínez antes de la pandemia, específicamente en febrero de 2020.

• Zapatero reconoce a Julio como socio principal pero no tiene conocimiento detallado sobre otros socios involucrados ni sus roles específicos.

Actividades Realizadas

• Se menciona un chat entre socios donde discutían características e informes relacionados con "Análisis Relevante".

• La investigación sostiene que "Análisis Relevante" pudo haber sido utilizada para tráfico de influencias relacionado con préstamos a Plus Ultra.

Ingresos y Gastos

Detalles Financieros

• Se discuten ingresos significativos provenientes principalmente de Plus Ultra, así como gastos asociados a Zapatero y la empresa Watafat (de sus hijas).

• Zapatero defiende que sus ingresos son resultado del trabajo realizado para "Análisis Relevante", sin implicaciones ilegales o irregulares.

Acusaciones sobre Tráfico de Influencias

Negación Rotunda

• Niega haber influido o hablado con autoridades sobre el rescate financiero a Plus Ultra; enfatiza que no tuvo contacto alguno al respecto.

• Resalta lo complejo del delito imputado (tráfico de influencias), argumentando que carece evidencia concreta contra él.

Comunicación Verbal vs Documental

• Aclara que los encargos eran comunicados verbalmente debido a la confianza existente entre él y Martínez; no había contratos formales escritos para los servicios prestados.

Participación Familiar

Implicación de Sus Hijas

• Confirma haber propuesto a sus hijas colaborar formalmente con "Análisis Relevante" mediante su agencia digital, subrayando nunca haber buscado contratos públicos para ellas.

Estructura Contractual

Falta De Formalidad

• Reconoce una falta generalizada en formalizar acuerdos contractuales dentro del ámbito consultor donde trabajaba; esto contrasta con prácticas más comunes observadas por el interrogador durante su carrera profesional.

Discussion on Consulting Services and Client Relationships

Overview of Consulting Engagements

• The speaker reflects on their role as a consultant for a firm, mentioning the involvement of Julio Martínez in hiring their services.

• It is highlighted that the speaker has dedicated significant time to analysis tasks for clients, indicating a substantial workload compared to others involved.

• The speaker acknowledges limited client interactions, specifically mentioning Aldesa and Plus Ultra, with no prior consulting work done for Plus Ultra.

Financial Arrangements and Client Control

• A discussion arises about who benefits financially from relevant analyses, pointing out that the speaker and Watfat receive most payments.

• Questions are raised regarding the necessity of establishing "análisis relevante" if the speaker controlled client relationships directly.

• The instructor emphasizes that without the speaker's involvement, "análisis relevante" would not exist as it does.

Importance of Speaker’s Role in Analysis Relevante

Contributions to Analysis Relevante

• The speaker claims they have been a principal consultant despite other firms wanting their expertise.

• They assert that without their contributions, "análisis relevante" would likely have failed financially.

Tax Declaration Issues

• The speaker admits to not having filed tax returns yet but suggests any errors would favor them rather than against them.

Interactions with Clients

Client Meetings and Consultations

• The instructor questions how often the speaker interacts with clients from "análisis relevante," confirming frequent meetings except with Plus Ultra.

• It is noted that Julio Martínez primarily managed relations with Plus Ultra due to an established rapport.

Nature of Work Done for Clients

• Clarification is made that while reports were prepared for analysis relevant, direct consulting work was not conducted for Plus Ultra.

Report Preparation Process

Workflow Dynamics

• Reports created by the speaker were commissioned by "análisis relevante," emphasizing their role in producing these documents.

• All reports are officially attributed to "análisis relevante," even though they may contain input from various consultants including the speaker.

Communication Practices in Consulting

Documentation and Correspondence

• The importance of maintaining communication records through emails or WhatsApp during consultancy engagements is discussed.

Lack of Formal Contracts

• There is an acknowledgment of missing written contracts or formal agreements regarding consultancy work performed.

Relationship with Intelligence Prospectiva

Background on Intelligence Prospectiva

• Discussion centers around two brothers who founded Intelligence Prospectiva, which lacks physical presence or employees but has financial transactions linked to various entities.

Speaker's Involvement

• The speaker describes extensive consulting efforts provided to the Amaro Chacón brothers across multiple sectors including political and economic advice.

Travel History with Julio Martínez

Travel Details

-The timeline indicates travel began around 2019 between Venezuela and other locations alongside Julio Martínez.

Purpose of Travels

-The travels were framed as personal companionship rather than business dealings; however, there was significant engagement in Venezuelan affairs during this period.

Discussion on Plus Ultra and Related Entities

Initial Inquiry about Plus Ultra

• The speaker reflects on their first knowledge of Plus Ultra, indicating it was not a significant concern for them initially. They mention that the company had all necessary permits under the previous government.

• Clarification is provided regarding the timeline of Plus Ultra's creation and operation, noting it was established in 2011 but began operations in 2015.

Connections with Julio Martínez

• The speaker recalls being asked by Julio Martínez to assist with a request for Santander to engage with Plus Ultra, marking this as their first interaction regarding the company.

• When asked about details of this request, the speaker emphasizes that they often receive similar requests from various individuals due to their position.

Communication with Financial Institutions

• The speaker confirms they contacted Mr. Cendoya at Santander to facilitate communication but denies any further involvement or follow-up discussions regarding Plus Ultra.

• They clarify that prior to this case, they had no conversations related to Plus Ultra with Mr. Cendoya or any other officials.

Knowledge of Company Executives

• The speaker admits they did not know key executives at Plus Ultra during the relevant time period and only met Julio Martínez Sola once in 2024.

• They confirm having no direct communications via phone or email with any executives from Plus Ultra.

Relationships and Interactions

Encounters with Rodolfo Reyes Rojas

• The speaker acknowledges knowing Camilo Ibrahim through business discussions in Venezuela but states there were no conversations about Plus Ultra.

Lack of Awareness Regarding Other Individuals

• They assert not knowing Ramón Gordils before reading about him in legal documents related to the case against them.

Conversations About Financing

• The transcript reveals an exchange dated April 28, 2020, where Rodolfo Reyes discusses access to Zapatero and mentions needing assistance from Julio Martínez.

Allegations of Influence

Claims Regarding Financial Arrangements

• There are allegations suggesting connections between Manuel Fajardo and financial dealings involving Julio Martínez; however, the speaker denies these claims vehemently.

Discussions Around Funding Requests

• A conversation is referenced where financing arrangements are discussed; again, the speaker distances themselves from any wrongdoing or influence over such matters.

Involvement with Intelligence Prospectiva

Relationship Dynamics

• The discussion shifts towards intelligence prospectiva's activities; however, the speaker maintains a clear boundary between their role as an advisor versus operational involvement.

Financial Transactions

• It is noted that intelligence prospectiva transferred funds to Gay Center; yet again, the speaker clarifies their lack of direct engagement in financial management decisions.

Final Remarks on Relationships

Contracts and Agreements

• The conversation touches upon contracts made by WFP without intervention from the speaker despite substantial sums involved.

Closing Statements

• As discussions conclude around various entities' relationships and transactions, emphasis remains on maintaining transparency while denying any illicit influence or actions taken by them personally.

Discussion on Restaurant Reservation and Key Individuals

Initial Inquiry about the Reservation

• The witness discusses a reservation made for two people, indicating uncertainty about who the second guest is: either themselves or Tomás Guerrero.

• The reservation was initiated by the secretary of the witness, raising questions about its legitimacy and purpose.

Relationship with Tomás Guerrero

• The witness confirms knowing Tomás Guerrero, describing him as a colleague from the Socialist Party and mentioning his work related to halal food projects in Córdoba.

• Guerrero's professional background includes significant experience in managing halal food initiatives, which piqued the witness's interest during their interactions.

Business Discussions Following the Meal

• After a meal involving discussions about business matters, messages were exchanged regarding establishing a company in Dubai's free zone, highlighting potential tax benefits.

• The conversation included details on necessary documentation for forming a company linked to Julio Martínez Martínez and another entity named Lamside Dubai. This raised suspicions regarding financial dealings.

Travel History and Connections

Frequency of Travel

• The witness has traveled extensively (92 countries), frequently visiting Morocco but cannot recall specific trips to Dubai with Julio Martínez Martínez. They express uncertainty over past travel arrangements.

• There is an emphasis on reviewing agendas to clarify travel history related to business dealings in Dubai, suggesting possible connections that need further investigation.

Implications of Business Relationships

• Concerns arise regarding how closely connected individuals are within this network, particularly surrounding business ventures that may involve illicit activities or conflicts of interest due to their political positions.

Consulting Work and Financial Transactions

Engagement with Focus Social Research

• The witness acknowledges receiving €200,000 from Focus Social Research for consulting services but remains vague about specific tasks performed under this contract. They emphasize contractual confidentiality as a reason for limited disclosure.

Analysis Relevant Group Involvement

• Questions arise concerning reports generated for Aldesa Group through Analysis Relevante; however, these reports are described as general rather than tailored specifically for clients like Aldesa or others involved in high-stakes financial transactions.

Humanitarian Efforts in Venezuela

Purpose of Visits to Venezuela

• The witness outlines their humanitarian efforts focused on liberating prisoners since 2019 while also engaging politically during electoral processes without any personal business interests there.

Communication with Associates

• Regular communication occurred between the witness and Julio Martínez due to shared interests such as running; they met frequently but deny any illegal undertones in their relationship despite allegations suggesting otherwise from law enforcement sources.

This structured summary captures key discussions from the transcript while providing timestamps for easy reference back to specific moments within the dialogue.

Discussion on Societies and Financial Transparency

Context of the Inquiry

• The speaker commits to providing all available data regarding a specific location, Puertoonovo, and its security detail during the pandemic.

• A question is posed about any relationship with a company named IOT Domotic Europe, indicating an inquiry into financial connections.

Denial of Ownership

• The individual asserts they have never had any social participation or ownership in any company, emphasizing their previous statements made in the Senate.

• They express a desire to authorize an investigation into their global assets to confirm no hidden ownership exists.

Reflection on Wealth Management

• A general observation is made about wealthy individuals often not being directly involved in company ownership or management.

• The speaker clarifies that this statement is not directed at the individual being questioned but reflects common practices among those managing significant finances.

Conclusion of Inquiry

• The discussion wraps up with the individual indicating they will present additional documentation related to their financial status.