¬RADICALES analizan a los expresidentes: ¿Desafiarán la transición 2024?

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Discussion on Former Presidents Speaking Out

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Appreciation for Former Presidents Speaking Out

• The speaker expresses their appreciation for former Mexican presidents speaking out about various topics, including their own governments, President López Obrador's government, and their political party.

• They find it wonderful that Ernesto Cedillo has returned to Mexico to give a speech after such a long absence.

Defending the FOA PROA and Past Administrations

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Defending the FOA PROA and Past Administrations

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• They mention specific incidents like the Aguas Blancas massacre and highlight that these defenders include five living former presidents who continue to participate in politics.

Continued Participation of Former Presidents

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Continued Participation of Former Presidents

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• They mention that this episode of "Radicales" will discuss the topic further.

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Discussion on Former Presidents Speaking Out (Continued)

The speaker expresses their enthusiasm for former presidents speaking out and encourages others to share their thoughts as well.

Enthusiasm for Former Presidents Speaking Out

• The speaker shares their excitement about former Mexican presidents expressing their opinions openly.

• They encourage others to also share their thoughts on the matter.

Historical Context of Presidential Power Limitations

The speaker discusses the historical context of presidential power limitations in Mexico.

Historical Context of Presidential Power Limitations

• In the past century in Mexico, there was an unwritten rule that limited presidential power by prohibiting re-election.

• However, presidents had influence over choosing their successors through the "dedazo" system.

• The speaker mentions that there was always some level of participation and influence from former presidents, both publicly and behind the scenes.

Influence of Former Presidents

The speaker highlights instances where former presidents had influence, such as Miguel Alemán's attempt to break the re-election rule.

Influence of Former Presidents

• The speaker points out that former presidents had varying degrees of influence, including public and private consultations with current presidents.

• They mention Miguel Alemán's attempt to break the re-election rule and consult with former presidents.

• Former president Lázaro Cárdenas served as a

Presence and Silence of Former Presidents

The presence and silence of former presidents in Mexico is discussed. It is noted that some former presidents choose to remain silent during critical moments or when they feel vulnerable. The lack of speaking out about corruption is highlighted.

Former Presidents' Silence

• Former President Calderón chose to remain silent for six years after leaving office, not speaking out about corruption.

• The decision for former presidents to speak out or remain silent varies and there is no set rule.

• It is suggested that most former presidents have not lived up to the responsibility given to them by the public during their time in office.

Impact of Former Presidents

The impact of former presidents in Mexico is examined, focusing on their actions and legacies beyond their time in office.

Lackluster Performance

• Most former presidents have been seen as underperforming compared to the responsibility entrusted to them.

• Their presence is measured more by the institutions and systems they left behind rather than their personal actions or statements.

Continuing Influence

• The infrastructure, ideologies, and models established by former presidents continue to shape Mexico's governance.

• Neoliberalism played a significant role in shaping these ideologies, with its emphasis on limited change and fear of alternative approaches.

• The legacy of former presidents lies more in the institutions they created rather than their individual voices.

Presence Through Ideas and Models

The lasting impact of former presidents' ideas, models, and ways of thinking are explored.

Cedillo's Influence

• Despite being less physically present in Mexican politics since 2000, Cedillo's ideas and model continue to shape the country's infrastructure.

• Infrastructure ideological frameworks established by past presidents, including Cedillo, remain influential.

Former Presidents' Actions

The current actions of former presidents in relation to the current administration are discussed.

Current Status

• Two former presidents, Salinas and Cedillo, have expressed their disapproval of President López Obrador.

• Vicente Fox is currently less active but is expected to return to the political scene.

• Calderón is expected to continue his opposition against the current administration.

Future Disputes and Public Deliberation

The future dynamics between former presidents and the current administration are predicted.

Dispute for the Nation

• As López Obrador's term ends, public deliberation during the campaign will likely revolve around a clash between his project and the model represented by former presidents.

• The nation will be divided between these two poles during this period of debate.

Expresidentes' Role in Mexican Politics

This section discusses the role of former presidents in Mexican politics, specifically focusing on Vicente Fox and Carlos Salinas. It highlights their attempts to censor and discredit each other, as well as their shared objective of preventing the growth of López Obrador's candidacy.

Expresidentes' Attempts to Censor Each Other

• Ramírez Acuña's statement about not interfering with former presidents was seen as an attempt to censor Vicente Fox.

• The expresidentes were aware that Fox could expose them and reveal more absurd statements made by them.

• Carlos Salinas also operated behind the scenes, such as during the 2004 video scandal, to prevent López Obrador's potential candidacy from gaining momentum.

Shared Objectives of Expresidentes

• Despite belonging to different political parties, all expresidentes share a common adversary in López Obrador for the past 20 years.

• Their projects and objectives have been similar, with minimal differences between them.

• They aim to maintain power and prevent any significant changes in Mexican politics.

Role of PAN Expresidentes

• Vicente Fox is known for his transparency on Twitter but often makes controversial and inconsistent statements.

• Felipe Calderón follows a similar strategy but focuses on topics where he lacks moral authority, such as democracy and security.

Hypocrisy of PAN Expresidentes

• The PAN expresidentes represent the opposition but exhibit hypocrisy in their actions.

• Felipe Calderón's tweets may seem patriotic at first glance but reflect his deep hypocrisy.

• Felipe Calderón is expected to remain active in future elections and may even attempt to form his own political party.

Transparency vs. Hypocrisy in Opposition Leaders

This section discusses the transparency and hypocrisy of opposition leaders, specifically focusing on Vicente Fox and Felipe Calderón. It highlights how their actions reflect the larger issue of hypocrisy within the Mexican opposition.

Transparency of Vicente Fox

• Vicente Fox's Twitter account reflects his true character, with transparent and often controversial statements.

• He is considered one of the clearest voices in the opposition but lacks consistency and honesty in his ideas.

Hypocrisy of Felipe Calderón

• Felipe Calderón attempts to participate in elections despite lacking moral authority on various issues.

• His focus on security disregards his own role in exacerbating criminality during his presidency.

Hypocrisy Reflects Opposition's Nature

• The transparency and hypocrisy displayed by these leaders are representative of the larger opposition in Mexico.

• The need for a new face and rebranding becomes crucial as traditional parties like PAN, PRI, and PRD lose relevance.

Future Plans of Opposition Leaders

This section discusses the future plans of opposition leaders, particularly focusing on Felipe Calderón. It explores his potential involvement in upcoming elections and attempts to establish a new political party.

Active Role of Felipe Calderón

• Felipe Calderón is expected to remain highly active in politics beyond the current election cycle.

• He previously attempted to form a political party and may try again in 2025.

Rebranding PAN and Opposition Parties

• Many individuals seek to rebrand PAN due to its association with corrupt practices.

• As traditional parties decline, there is a need for new faces and fresh ideologies within the opposition.

Cedillo's Insignificance

• Despite media attention, Cedillo's significance is minimal as he lacks influence or interesting ideas.

• Journalists paid more attention to him than the general public does.

Relevance of Opposition Parties

This section discusses the relevance of opposition parties in Mexico and their need for rebranding. It highlights the declining influence of PAN, PRI, and PRD.

Decline of Traditional Parties

• The traditional parties, including PAN, PRI, and PRD, have been taken over by internal factions.

• The distribution of candidacies within these parties has become comical.

Need for Rebranding

• As these parties lose relevance and support, they will require new faces and a fresh image to regain popularity.

• The idea of regrouping becomes tempting as these parties face diminishing influence.

Inconsequential Nature of Cedillo

This section emphasizes the inconsequential nature of Cedillo's role in Mexican politics. It highlights his lack of significance and uninteresting ideas.

Lack of Public Interest in Cedillo

• Most people are not interested in who Cedillo is or what he represents.

• He is perceived as boring, uncreative, and lacking honesty in his statements.

Irrelevance to General Public

• Cedillo's insignificance extends beyond journalists' attention; the general public does not care about him either.

The Future of Former Presidents

In this section, the speaker discusses the current state of former presidents and their involvement in politics. They mention Enrique Peña Nieto and his contentment with staying out of political participation due to his wealth. The speaker also expresses their preference for the tradition of former presidents retiring and dedicating themselves to philanthropy.

Former Presidents' Involvement in Politics

• Former President Enrique Peña Nieto is satisfied with staying out of politics due to his wealth.

• The speaker prefers the tradition of former presidents retiring and focusing on philanthropy.

• There has been a shift towards younger presidents, such as Salinas de Gortari, Calderón, and López Obrador, who have more years of political activity ahead.

• This change in age affects the level of involvement former presidents have in politics.

Motivation Behind Bringing Cedillo into Politics

The speaker discusses the motivation behind bringing Ernesto Cedillo into politics. They suggest that there may be a political motive behind it, as opposition parties seek less controversial figures. Cedillo is seen as a more moderate option compared to other former presidents like Vicente Fox or Felipe Calderón.

Motivation for Bringing Cedillo into Politics

• Opposition parties are searching for less controversial figures than those already known (e.g., Vicente Fox or Felipe Calderón).

• Ernesto Cedillo is considered a more moderate option among the five former presidents.

• His presence may appeal to certain segments of the population during campaigns.

Relationship Between López Obrador and Former Presidents

The speaker explores how President López Obrador has interacted with former presidents. While López Obrador did not actively pursue legal action against them, he created a non-binding consultation to gauge public opinion on the matter. The speaker notes that there is consensus among the group that López Obrador did not aggressively pursue legal action against former presidents.

Relationship Between López Obrador and Former Presidents

• President López Obrador did not actively pursue legal action against former presidents.

• He conducted a non-binding consultation to determine public opinion on the matter.

• There is consensus among the group that López Obrador did not aggressively pursue legal action against former presidents.

Bringing Cedillo and Financial Group Actinver

The speaker discusses the invitation of Ernesto Cedillo by financial group Actinver. They express their support for former presidents expressing their opinions but also highlight the irony of Cedillo speaking about integrity and transparency. The speaker suggests inviting other former presidents like Carlos Salinas or Enrique Peña Nieto to speak on those topics as well.

Invitation of Cedillo by Actinver

• Financial group Actinver invited Ernesto Cedillo to speak.

• The speaker supports former presidents expressing their opinions.

• They find it ironic for Cedillo to speak about integrity and transparency given his presidency's controversies.

• The speaker suggests inviting other former presidents like Carlos Salinas or Enrique Peña Nieto to discuss integrity and transparency.

Inconvenience of Cedillo's Message

The speaker highlights the inconvenience of Ernesto Cedillo discussing the dangers of populism when Mexico's economy is thriving under what some consider a populist government. This creates a debate and challenges those who sympathize with him. They mention how even the hosts acknowledge this inconvenient situation in their introduction.

Inconvenience of Cedillo's Message

• It is inconvenient for Ernesto Cedillo to discuss the dangers of populism when Mexico's economy is thriving under what some consider a populist government.

• This creates a debate and challenges those who sympathize with him.

• The hosts of the event acknowledge this inconvenient situation in their introduction.

Conclusion

The speaker concludes by expressing their appreciation for former presidents expressing their opinions. They mention the hope that Carlos Salinas or Enrique Peña Nieto will also speak on topics like integrity and transparency, given their involvement in financial groups during their presidencies.

Conclusion

• The speaker appreciates former presidents expressing their opinions.

• They express hope that Carlos Salinas or Enrique Peña Nieto will also speak on topics like integrity and transparency, considering their involvement in financial groups during their presidencies.

Discussion on Economy and Populism

In this section, the speakers discuss the economy and populism in Mexico, with a focus on the administration of Cedillo. They also mention the role of foreign ex-presidents in Mexican politics.

Cedillo's Response to Economic and Massacre Questions

• Cedillo did not respond to questions about the economy and massacres during his administration.

• Interestingly, he encouraged others to defend neoliberal policies unintentionally.

Support for Cedillo's Administration

• Some individuals, like Alejandro, believe that there is an attempt to bring back these leadership figures for political purposes.

Role of Foreign Ex-Presidents

• The speakers discuss the involvement of foreign ex-presidents in Mexican politics.

• The prohibition of foreigners interfering in politics (Article 33 of the Constitution) was established during a time when there was significant U.S. intervention.

• Despite this context, José María Aznar has visited Mexico twice explicitly to influence electoral processes by warning against populism.

• The concept of "retropop" or populism is seen as a catch-all term similar to how communism was used during the Cold War era.

Economic Performance Comparison

• In 2006, Aznar accused López Obrador of economic irresponsibility during his campaign.

• However, López Obrador's government has shown better economic management compared to Cedillo's administration.

• The peso has appreciated significantly against the dollar under López Obrador's presidency.

Lack of Evidence for Economic Disaster

• There is no evidence supporting claims that López Obrador would cause an economic disaster or be an authoritarian leader.

• Critics have been eager to label him as such but have failed to find substantial evidence.

Investment in Social Support

In this section, the speakers discuss the investment in social support and how it disproves claims of economic destruction by López Obrador.

Investment in Social Support

• López Obrador's government has invested a significant amount of money directly into social support programs.

• The amount invested in direct support, such as scholarships and assistance, is unprecedented compared to the past 50 years.

Failure of Economic Destruction Claims

• Critics' claims that López Obrador would destroy the economy have proven false.

• The narrative of an authoritarian dictator has also failed to gain traction.

• The speakers question why these labels persist despite evidence to the contrary.

Authoritarianism and Continuity

In this section, the speakers discuss the concept of authoritarianism and its evolution in describing López Obrador's leadership style.

Evolution of Descriptions

• Jesús Zambrano describes López Obrador's leadership as "authoritarian demencia" (authoritarian dementia).

• The risk now goes beyond just authoritarianism; it is seen as something more extreme.

Questioning Mexico's Situation

• Despite being labeled an authoritarian leader, Mexico does not fit the description.

• People can freely criticize López Obrador without facing consequences.

Conclusion

In this discussion, various topics related to the economy and populism were explored. Cedillo's lack of response to questions about his administration raised eyebrows. The involvement of foreign ex-presidents in Mexican politics was discussed, with Aznar being highlighted for his repeated attempts to influence electoral processes. The economic performance under López Obrador was compared favorably to previous administrations. Additionally, investment in social support programs debunked claims of economic destruction. Finally, the evolving descriptions of López Obrador's leadership style were examined, questioning their accuracy given Mexico's current situation.

The Influence of Progressive Discourse on Lula and López Obrador

This section discusses the influence of progressive discourse on political leaders such as Lula in Brazil and López Obrador in Mexico.

The Natural Transition to Progressive Policies

• Lula's similarity to López Obrador is not because he intentionally modeled himself after him, but rather because both leaders followed a progressive route that led to similar public policies.

• The second term of Lula's presidency, along with the potential upcoming term of Claudia Sheinbaum in Mexico, may not see a return to neoliberalism due to the natural progression of progressive policies.

The Risk to Neoliberalism in Latin America

• The second generation of governments led by leaders like López Obrador poses a risk to the survival of neoliberalism in Latin America. This challenges the perception that neoliberalism is the only viable option for economic development.

• It is unlikely that people would willingly choose a return to neoliberalism unless significant mistakes are made by progressive governments.

The Cycle of Progressivism and Poverty

• In Latin America, there is a pattern where left-wing progressive governments expand rights and social transfers, lifting many out of poverty and into the middle class. However, once they become comfortable in their new socioeconomic status, they tend to vote for right-wing parties again, leading to impoverishment once more. This cycle repeats itself over time.

Questioning Neoliberal Successes

• There is a question regarding why previous administrations from 1994 to 2018 were unable to lift anyone out of poverty despite their claims of success under neoliberal policies. This raises doubts about the effectiveness and goals of these policies.

The Role of Media and Former Presidents

• The media landscape in Latin America is dominated by figures associated with former presidents such as Salinas, Cedillo, Calderón, Fox, and Peña Nieto. These individuals hold positions in both academia and politics, shaping public discourse.

• Media personalities who were once affiliated with Felipe Calderón's administration continue to promote a narrative of an information blockade against the current government led by López Obrador.

The Search for Authoritarianism

This section explores the opposition's search for examples of authoritarianism in López Obrador's government.

Inventing Censorship Allegations

• The opposition constantly searches for instances of authoritarianism or censorship in López Obrador's government but often fails to find substantial evidence to support their claims. Their attempts to create controversy often backfire.

• The opposition's obsession with finding examples of "authoritarianism" stems from their subordination to figures like Carlos Salinas and their desire to discredit the current administration.

Media Figures and Political Bias

• Many media figures in Mexico have strong ties to previous administrations, such as Felipe Calderón's presidency. They continue to shape public opinion through various media outlets, including public television channels like Canal 11.

• These media personalities perpetuate narratives that align with their own political biases while accusing others of creating an information blockade against them.

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Claudio X González and the Influence of the Mexican Business Elite

This section discusses Claudio X González, a prominent figure in Mexican business and politics. He is associated with the Mexican Business Council and has been involved in politics since the neoliberal era. The coalition PRD was formed at his mansion, highlighting his influence.

Claudio X González's Role in Politics

• Claudio X González is a powerful figure in Mexican business and politics, associated with the Mexican Business Council.

• He has been involved in politics since the neoliberal era, starting with Miguel de la Madrid's presidency.

• In 2006, he played a role in the war against Andrés Manuel López Obrador's campaign as a member of Televisa's board of directors.

Formation of Coalition PRD

• The coalition PRD was formed at Claudio X González's mansion in Las Lomas de Chapultepec.

• While not directly involved as a journalist, his employees have harassed Andrés Manuel López Obrador's children.

Comparison to Other Former Presidents

• The presence of former presidents like Salinas, Cedillo, Peña Nieto, Vicente Fox, and José María Aznar is highlighted.

• These former presidents are criticized for their corruption and impunity.

Figures Associated with Salinismo Still Influential in Media

This section focuses on figures associated with Salinismo who still hold influence in media. Pablo Iriart and José Carreño Carlón are mentioned as individuals who were part of Salinas' regime and continue to shape public opinion through media outlets.

Pablo Iriart and His Conspiracy Theory

• Pablo Iriart was one of the first to propagate a conspiracy theory linking Venezuela, Cuba, and Mexico through the Faculty of Philosophy and Letters at UNAM.

• He accused López Obrador of being antisemitic based on speculations and unfounded claims.

José Carreño Carlón's Role

• José Carreño Carlón, a former spokesperson for Salinas, accused López Obrador of being antisemitic due to an incident involving a swastika painted by an irrelevant individual.

• This accusation was based on speculation and had no substantial evidence.

Otro Granados Roldán's Influence

• Otro Granados Roldán attempted to exercise censorship during Salinas' presidency but failed in some cases.

• He claimed that the PRI and PAN made a mistake by not finishing off López Obrador during his impeachment process.

Carlos Salinas de Gortari's Legacy and Opposition's Lack of New Leaders

This section discusses Carlos Salinas de Gortari's legacy and the lack of new leaders in the opposition. It highlights how the same wealthy individuals created by Salinas still hold power, questioning who can replace him intellectually and politically.

Carlos Salinas de Gortari's Legacy

• The Commission on Human Rights reported over 300 leftist leaders killed during Salinas' presidency.

• Under Ernesto Cedillo, over 600 leftist leaders were assassinated.

Lack of New Leaders in the Opposition

• The opposition still depends on figures from the past both ideologically and politically.

• The question is raised about who can replace Carlos Salinas de Gortari intellectually, politically, and with presence.

Lack of Competent Figures to Replace Carlos Salinas de Gortari

This section emphasizes that there are no competent figures to replace Carlos Salinas de Gortari in terms of intellect, political presence, and leadership. The current opposition relies on the same wealthy individuals created by Salinas.

Lack of Competent Figures

• The current opposition lacks competent figures who can match Carlos Salinas de Gortari's intellectual capacity and political influence.

• The 10 wealthiest individuals in Mexico were created by Salinas, highlighting his lasting impact.

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The Reality of the Opposition

This section discusses the reality of the opposition and their reliance on discredited figures. It highlights the role of certain individuals in supporting neoliberal projects and mentions a list of former presidents and a Nobel laureate who supported Javier Miley's candidacy in Argentina.

The Size and Reputation of the Opposition

• The opposition currently lacks influential figures.

• They rely on discredited individuals for support.

Functionaries from Previous Administrations

• Figures like Ildefonso Guajardo, Luis Telles, and Georginia Kessel were instrumental in implementing neoliberal policies.

• These individuals held positions such as Secretary of Energy and served on the board of Iberdrola.

Neoliberal Project and Support for Javier Miley

• The political-economic project pursued by previous administrations belonged to a regional and global agenda.

• A list of former presidents, including Macri, Calderón, Duque, Rajoy, Quiroga, Piñera, Fox, Pastrana, and Vargas Llosa supported Javier Miley's candidacy in Argentina.

Mexico's Connection to Regional Projects

• Mexico is not isolated; it was part of a larger political-economic project involving influential figures.

• These figures will likely have an impact on the upcoming election.

Paying Attention to Alignment with Candidates

• Vicente Fox and Cedillo's presence in Mexico is not coincidental; they are aligned with Javier Miley.

• It is important to closely follow these individuals' actions during the election campaign.

Dependence on Discredited Former Presidents

This section emphasizes how opposition parties depend on discredited former presidents for political relevance. It also mentions the control these individuals have over party leadership positions.

Opposition Parties' Reliance on Discredited Figures

• Opposition parties need the support of discredited former presidents to maintain political relevance.

• This reliance demonstrates their lack of political density.

Control Over Party Leadership Positions

• Former presidents not only influence candidate selection but also hold leadership positions within opposition parties.

• This control is discussed in more detail in a future episode.

Different Treatment of Statements

This section highlights the contrasting treatment of statements made by former presidents. It discusses how critical remarks against López Obrador are amplified, while those against previous PAN presidents are downplayed or even retracted.

Media Coverage Bias

• Critical statements against López Obrador are extensively reproduced by the media.

• Remarks against previous PAN presidents, like Miguel de la Madrid's accusation against Salinas, are either ignored or retracted.

Conclusion

The transcript concludes with gratitude and farewells from the speaker.