Why societies collapse | Jared Diamond

Why societies collapse | Jared Diamond

Understanding Societal Collapse

Introduction to Societal Collapses

  • The speaker discusses the fascination with historical societies that collapsed, such as the Maya and Great Zimbabwe, highlighting environmental issues as a common factor in these collapses.
  • Contrasts fragile societies with those that have thrived for millennia (e.g., Japan, Tonga), raising questions about what makes some societies more resilient than others.

Relevance to Modern Society

  • Draws parallels between past collapses and current situations in countries like Somalia and Rwanda, emphasizing the importance of learning from history to avoid similar fates.
  • Asserts that societal collapse is complex and cannot be attributed to a single cause; warns against oversimplified explanations.

Five-Point Framework for Analyzing Collapse

Case Study: Greenland Norse Society

  • Introduces a five-point framework used to analyze societal collapses, beginning with the extinction of the Greenland Norse society around 1450.

Human Environmental Impacts

  • First point: Examines how human actions led to environmental degradation, specifically soil erosion and deforestation among the Vikings due to their iron production needs.

Climate Change Factors

  • Second point: Discusses climate change's role; while temperatures dropped in Greenland during the late 1300s, it did not affect all groups equally (e.g., Inuit thrived).

Relations with Neighboring Societies

  • Third point: Highlights trade relations with Norway that weakened over time due to various factors including sea ice, impacting resource availability for the Norse.

Hostile Relations Impacting Survival

  • Fourth point: Describes conflicts with Inuit populations who may have contributed significantly to Norse decline by blocking access to vital resources.

Cultural and Political Factors

  • Fifth point: Explores internal cultural factors hindering problem-solving capabilities within Norse society, such as religious commitments and social hierarchies.

Contemporary Analysis of Montana's Environment

Current Environmental Issues

  • The speaker reflects on personal experiences in Montana, revealing underlying environmental problems despite its seemingly pristine appearance.

Checklist Application

  • Applies the same five-point checklist:
  • Human impacts include toxic mine waste causing significant economic damage.
  • Climate change is affecting agriculture reliant on snowpack irrigation due to warming trends.

Economic Vulnerabilities

  • Discusses economic dependencies where over half of Montana’s income comes from external sources, making it vulnerable.

Global Sensitivities

Understanding Societal Collapse

The Role of Long-Held Values

  • Montanans' traditional values, such as devotion to logging, mining, and agriculture, are now hindering their ability to address contemporary issues.
  • Historical values that once served societies well may not be effective in solving current problems.

Patterns of Collapse in Societies

  • Many societies experience rapid collapse shortly after reaching their peak; this is a common thread observed across different cultures.
  • Examples include the lowland Maya's decline in the early 800s and the Soviet Union's collapse within decades of its greatest power.

Resource Mismatch and Rapid Decline

  • A significant factor contributing to societal collapse is the mismatch between resource consumption and availability.
  • The analogy of bacteria growth in a petri dish illustrates how societies can quickly exhaust resources after a period of expansion.

Mathematical Insights into Societal Health

  • To assess societal stability, one should focus on the first and second derivatives of wealth rather than just its total value.

Environmental Fragility Factors

  • Subtle environmental factors contribute to some societies being more fragile than others; for instance, Easter Island faced unique challenges leading to deforestation.
  • Key environmental influences included volcanic fallout and nutrient input from continental dust, which were critical yet overlooked until recent studies.

Perception Failures in Societal Decision-Making

  • Students often question how past societies failed to recognize their destructive actions; this raises concerns about modern society's awareness of similar issues.
  • There is an expectation that future generations will also wonder why current populations did not take corrective actions when they had the chance.

Conflicts of Interest Leading to Collapse

  • A major risk factor for societal collapse is when decision-making elites prioritize short-term gains over long-term societal health.
  • Historical examples show that elite interests can lead to unsustainable practices that ultimately harm society as a whole.
  • In Greenland Norse society, chiefs prioritized immediate resource accumulation at the expense of long-term sustainability.

Modern Implications for Society

Understanding Societal Decision-Making and Environmental Challenges

Conflicts of Interest in Societal Decisions

  • Societies often make poor decisions due to conflicts of interest, where short-term benefits for certain groups lead to long-term detriments for society as a whole.
  • Strongly held values can hinder societal adaptability; the Greenland Norse's commitment to religion and social cohesion limited their ability to learn from the Inuit during environmental challenges.
  • Australia's British identity has historically supported its survival but now poses challenges in adapting to its geographical context in Asia.

The Ticking Time Bombs of Modern Society

  • There are numerous pressing global issues—referred to as "time bombs"—that threaten sustainability, including water scarcity, climate change, and invasive species.
  • Many of these problems have imminent deadlines; for instance, the Philippines may lose all accessible loggable forests within five years.

The Importance of Comprehensive Solutions

  • Addressing environmental issues requires a multifaceted approach; focusing on one problem while neglecting others could lead to failure.
  • A non-sustainable course is inevitable if current practices continue; resolution will occur within decades through either proactive measures or adverse consequences like war or starvation.

Choices and Control Over Our Future

  • Individuals under 60 will likely witness how these environmental paradoxes resolve, emphasizing the urgency for action.
  • Major threats today stem from human actions rather than uncontrollable events (e.g., asteroids), suggesting that solutions are within our reach.

Taking Action

Channel: TED
Video description

http://www.ted.com Why do societies fail? With lessons from the Norse of Iron Age Greenland, deforested Easter Island and present-day Montana, Jared Diamond talks about the signs that collapse is near, and how -- if we see it in time -- we can prevent it.