EP022-TP04 - A VERDADE SOBRE OS CRIADORES DO TRIO PARADA DURA - DELMON

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The speaker reflects on Mangabinha, describing him as a wonderful person but highlighting his focus on personal gain over partnership.

Reflecting on Mangabinha

• Mangabinha prioritized his own interests over partnerships, leading to significant losses for others.

• Despite Mangabinha's apologies, the speaker emphasizes forgiveness as a divine act and acknowledges his positive traits.

• Creone is praised for being an excellent person and professional, contrasting with Mangabinha's self-centered behavior towards partners.

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The speaker discusses how Mangabinha faced consequences for his actions due to excessive drinking and mistreatment of partners.

Consequences of Actions

• Mangabinha faced repercussions for mistreating partners and engaging in excessive drinking.

• Despite Mangabinha's regrets, the speaker harbors no ill will towards him or any other past partners.

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Introduction to the podcast with Delmon from the duo Delmir & Delmon sharing stories about their musical journey.

Podcast Introduction

• Welcoming listeners to the podcast while introducing Delmon from Delmir & Delmon duo.

Desafios Iniciais e Formação Musical

The speaker reflects on his early musical experiences, including working with different individuals and learning to play the accordion.

Early Musical Ventures

• Started thinking about music with individuals like Delfim and Delmar, practicing and performing at amusement parks, shows, and rural dances.

• Transitioned to Belo Horizonte to work in a warehouse while continuing to study the accordion; acquired 48 and 80 bass accordions.

• Engaged with well-known artists like Curio and Canarinho, learning valuable lessons from their music.

Musical Growth and Collaborations

The speaker delves into his artistic development through collaborations, radio appearances, and encounters with fellow musicians.

Artistic Development

• Recounted a poignant song lyric emphasizing regret over lost love.

• Shared experiences of being discovered by others in Belo Horizonte due to his musical talent.

• Worked as a bus conductor before transitioning to radio performances at stations like Radio Confidencia.

Transition to Professional Music Scene

The speaker discusses his immersion into the professional music scene, honing his skills through practice sessions and live performances.

Professional Growth

• Collaborated with artists like Carijo Rosa, enhancing his understanding of Sertanejo music.

• Transitioned to Belo Horizonte for better opportunities in the thriving music industry; performed extensively in bohemian zones for income.

Evolution of Musical Career

The speaker elaborates on the evolution of his career trajectory within the changing landscape of the music industry.

Career Evolution

• Detailed financial aspects of performing in bohemian areas during that era.

• Moved to Belo Horizonte due to its cultural significance as a hub for music activities such as radio broadcasts and events like rodeos.

Artistic Partnerships and Successes

The speaker narrates how collaborations led him towards forming successful artistic partnerships that shaped his career.

Forming Duos

• Met Delmir Costa through mutual connections; initiated discussions about forming a duo which eventually led to fruitful collaborations.

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In this section, the speaker discusses the origins of their music career, including early successes and challenges.

Early Music Career Beginnings

• The speaker recalls a time when someone wrote to them claiming ownership of a song that later became a hit in California and São Paulo.

• Following a separation, the speaker and Deumi started performing together, gradually improving their shows over time.

• In 1969, the duo began refining their performances and decided to change their name from Delmir e Delmon to Deumir e Deumir.

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This section delves into the financial challenges faced by the duo as they aimed to record an album.

Financial Struggles and Recording Efforts

• Due to financial constraints, the duo sought help from friends like João Capivara Esterlino Cruvinel and Pedro Marciano to raise funds for recording.

• With support from friends, they managed to gather 3 million units of currency but still needed more for recording expenses.

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Here, the focus is on securing funding for recording and the pivotal role played by a record label owner.

Securing Funding for Recording

• The record label owner offered financial assistance after learning about their situation, agreeing to finance part of the recording costs.

• With most of the funds secured, they finalized their repertoire and headed to São Paulo for recording with support from the label owner.

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This segment highlights the success of their first album release and its impact on their career trajectory.

Success of First Album Release

• Despite initial challenges with album covers, their first vinyl release became a massive success in terms of sales and popularity.

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In this section, the speaker discusses the early stages of their music career and the challenges faced during the production of their first album.

Early Music Career Beginnings

• The speaker expresses dissatisfaction with their early songs and recalls placing a photo on the back cover of their first album.

• Despite facing challenges during the production of their first album, including financial constraints, they managed to release it.

• Upon achieving success with their music, they reflect on not needing to pay off debts related to the album's production due to high sales exceeding 2 million copies.

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This section delves into how the speaker's humble background and lack of experience did not hinder their success in the music industry.

Humble Beginnings and Success

• The speaker highlights selling over 2 million copies despite being inexperienced and coming from a rural background.

• They recount receiving a proposal to form a trio but declined as they were content with their current setup.

• Despite opportunities for expansion, such as forming a trio, they chose to remain true to themselves and focus on their existing duo.

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This section explores how collaborations and decisions led to significant milestones in the speaker's music career.

Collaborations and Milestones

• The speaker shares an anecdote about naming their group "Trio Parada Dura" after forming a trio with another artist.

• Their decision to include all three members on the second album cover marked a new phase in their musical journey, leading to increased success.

• Despite suggestions for new album covers featuring all three members together, they opted to maintain consistency with previous designs.

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This section focuses on the growing popularity of the speaker's music across different regions and radio stations.

Regional Popularity and Radio Presence

• The speaker reflects on receiving requests for shows from various regions like Goiás, Mato Grosso, Paraná, Bahia, and Espírito Santo due to increasing demand for their music.

• Their music gained traction through radio programs like those hosted by Edgard de Souza on Rádio Nacional, contributing significantly to their widespread recognition.

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This section delves into conflicts arising from financial disagreements within musical partnerships.

Financial Disagreements in Partnerships

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In this section, the speaker discusses a past conflict with Mangabinha and an incident at a circus in Curvelo related to the separation of Trio Parada Dura.

Conflict with Mangabinha

• The speaker recounts an incident involving Mangabinha witnessing a commotion at a circus in Curvelo during the time of Trio Parada Dura's separation.

• Despite Mangabinha later apologizing, the speaker emphasizes that only God can forgive, showing humility.

Maintaining Respect

• The speaker expresses that despite Mangabinha's repentance and actions, they never spoke ill of him and maintained silence.

• Reflecting on Creone's positive remarks about them, the speaker highlights Creone's integrity and praises his character as both a person and professional.

Insights into Mangabinha

• Discussing Mangabinha's behavior, the speaker mentions his mistreatment of partners and how he faced consequences for his actions.

• The speaker recalls visiting Mangabinha when he fell ill due to excessive drinking despite being diabetic, showcasing concerns for his well-being.

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In this section, the conversation revolves around the musicians Deir and Delmir, their relationship with Mangabinha, and how music served as a means of communication between them.

The Relationship Between Deir, Delmir, and Mangabinha

• Deir and Delmir are referred to as "Os Dois Mineiros," showcasing their strong musical presence.

• Discussion on Mangabinha's lack of interaction with Deir and Delmir, indicating a shift in dynamics over time.

• Insights into how misunderstandings or conflicts can lead to distancing among individuals in the music industry.

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This segment delves into the evolution of relationships within the music industry, highlighting how personal dynamics can influence artistic expression.

Dynamics Within Music Relationships

• The role of music as a medium for expressing emotions and resolving conflicts within relationships.

• Emphasis on maintaining humility and gratitude despite achieving success in the music industry.

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Here, the discussion centers on fame, success, and staying grounded amidst achievements in the music business.

Fame and Success in Music

• Reflection on fame not defining one's character or superiority over others.

• Acknowledgment of fans' pivotal role in an artist's success and reputation.

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This part explores changes in the music industry over time, focusing on shifts in production methods and lyrical content.

Evolution of Music Industry

• Comparison between past vinyl record sales and current digital distribution models.

• Observations on contemporary lyrical themes diverging from traditional topics like love and nature.

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The conversation shifts towards discussing influential figures in the music industry like Geraldo Meireles.

Influence of Geraldo Meireles

• Mention of Geraldo Meireles' impact on artists like Chitãozinho & Xororó through his work.

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In this section, the conversation revolves around the return of a radio host in June and his popularity among listeners.

Return of Radio Host

• The radio host is set to return from vacation around mid-June.

• Despite taking a break, the host's program maintains high viewership and audience engagement.

• The host, known for his farming background, manages vast properties and sells a significant number of pastries weekly.

Dedication to Fans

• The decision to continue working stems from a commitment to fans rather than personal reasons.

• Emphasizes maintaining positive relationships with colleagues over the years without harboring ill feelings towards anyone.

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This segment delves into the artist's extensive career spanning over five decades and his approach to relationships within the industry.

Longevity in Career

• Reflecting on a successful 52-year career in music, founding Trio Parada Dura, a prominent group in Brazilian music history.

• Acknowledgment of respected peers such as Lourenço & Lourival, highlighting their enduring influence and talent.

Commitment to Craft

• Maintaining linguistic accuracy in songs by prioritizing correct pronunciation and diction throughout performances.

• Historical context on language censorship in music production compared to contemporary freedom of expression.

Describing Music Preferences

The conversation delves into the importance of focusing on what fans like in music, rather than solely aiming for commercial success.

Importance of Fan Preference

• Fans appreciate when artists talk about them and their favorite songs.

• Emphasizing songs loved by fans, like "Valsa das Mães," can lead to significant popularity.

• Success in music often hinges on resonating with the public rather than personal preferences.

Impact of Popular Songs

The discussion highlights how certain songs, such as "Fio de Cabelo," gained immense popularity despite initial doubts from some artists.

Song Popularity Insights

• "Fio de Cabelo" exemplifies a song initially rejected by one artist but became a massive hit for others.

• The success of "Fio de Cabelo" showcases the unpredictability of music popularity based on audience reception.

• Similar to "Fio de Cabelo," other songs like "Valsa das Mães" gained widespread acclaim despite differing opinions.

Musical Talent and Recognition

The conversation shifts towards recognizing individual musical talents and the uniqueness each artist brings to their craft.

Individual Musical Talents

• Each artist possesses a distinct voice that sets them apart in the industry.

• Acknowledgment of unique styles among artists like Creone emphasizes individuality over similarity.

• Delmir's ability to enhance musical performances through harmonization underscores the significance of second voices in music.

Significance of Second Voices

The dialogue explores the importance of second voices in enriching musical compositions and creating harmonious melodies.

Role of Second Voices

• Second voices play a crucial role in embellishing music compositions and adding depth to performances.

• Collaborations between artists, such as Creone and Barrerito, highlight the beauty and perfection found in duets.

Perseverance and Success

The discussion concludes with reflections on perseverance, unique styles contributing to success, and ongoing dedication to musical careers.

Perseverance and Dedication

Silva's Program and Its Impact

In this segment, the speaker discusses Silva's program and its significance, reminiscing about the lively atmosphere and audience engagement during the show.

Silva's Program Experience

• The program attracted a large audience with live music performances, creating a vibrant atmosphere.

• The speaker hosted the program for 10 years before changes in management led to its decline in popularity.

• There is a desire to revive the program due to its past success and audience appeal.

• Mention of Tina Gonçalves indicating plans to bring back live programs for increased engagement.

• Transition of power from Silva's program to Itatiaia as a dominant force in broadcasting.

Acknowledgment and Gratitude

Expressions of gratitude and appreciation for the opportunity to share stories and experiences on the platform.

Appreciation and Reflection

• Fond memories shared about individuals like Valdir Barbosa and Pinguim from Bambuí.

• Acknowledgment of the complexity of storytelling and gratitude for being part of the conversation.

• Recognition of the interview as a tribute to the artist's journey, preserved on YouTube indefinitely.

• Reflecting on both positive and challenging moments experienced throughout one's career.

Closing Remarks

Final words expressing blessings, well-wishes, and camaraderie among participants.

Farewell Messages

• Mutual blessings exchanged among participants including Renato Chefão, Anderson Jan, and others.

• Encouragement for continued storytelling across Brazil with hopes for future opportunities.