The Hidden Opportunity in Tutorial Channels (Thomas Frank Interview)

The Hidden Opportunity in Tutorial Channels (Thomas Frank Interview)

Two Years Ago Decision to Abandon YouTube Channel

Thomas Frank made a bold decision to leave his successful YouTube channel to focus on software tutorials, leading to the growth of his new channel.

Thomas Frank's Bold Decision

  • Two years ago, Thomas Frank left his 2 million subscriber YouTube channel to create software tutorials.
  • The new channel, Thomas Frank Explains, has grown significantly by teaching productivity and notetaking using Notion.
  • Advice for starting a tutorial channel: Focus on creating content you're interested in without worrying about strategy initially.

Evolution of Content Strategy

Thomas discusses the evolution of his content strategy from focusing solely on Notion to launching a startup called Flylighter.

Content Strategy Evolution

  • Transition from teaching Notion to building a tool with Flylighter necessitates a shift in content strategy.
  • Introducing more diverse content including productivity videos beyond just featuring Notion as the app.

Balancing Personal Brand and Startup Growth

Thomas reflects on balancing personal brand development with growing his startup Flylighter.

Balancing Personal Brand and Startup

  • Building brand affinity around personal interests like no-code skills and entrepreneurship while growing the startup.
  • Challenges of having a specific niche like teaching formulas in Notion compared to broader topics; balancing strengths and weaknesses.

Creating Separate Channels for Different Content

Reasons behind creating separate channels for different types of content such as Notion tutorials versus general productivity tips.

Channel Separation Strategy

Channel Strategy Comparison

In this section, the speaker discusses the differences in strategy between their main channel and Thomas Frank Explains.

Main Channel vs. Thomas Frank Explains

  • The main channel focuses on sponsorships and early performance views due to pressure for good conversions within 30 days.
  • Initially, Thomas Frank Explains was not concerned about views but later realized it gained more traffic from browse features and suggested videos than from search.
  • Long-tail videos on Thomas Frank Explains have shown to perform well over time, with some starting as average but becoming top-performing videos eventually.
  • Content on Thomas Frank Explains aims to be evergreen, allowing it to attract views steadily over time despite changes in technology.

Video Performance and Audience Retention

This section delves into video performance factors such as long-tail viewership and audience retention strategies.

Factors Affecting Video Performance

  • YouTube's algorithm continually tests new audience segments over time, leading to potential spikes in video views months after publishing.
  • Specific tutorial content can attract significant viewership even if niche, showcasing the importance of content quality over trends like AI hype.
  • Detailed guides accompanying tutorial videos may impact viewer retention negatively by diverting them away from the video content itself.

New Section

Discusses the benefits of using Notion AI for organization and collaboration.

Benefits of Using Notion AI

  • Reduces stress by simplifying organization and aiding team collaboration.
  • Q&A feature included in existing Notion AI subscriptions.
  • Pricing starts at $10 per month.

The Role of the Chosen Platform in Channel Success

Explores the significance of choosing a platform like Notion for channel success.

Significance of Platform Choice

  • Notion plays a crucial role in channel success, described as symbiotic.
  • Notion provides users with tools akin to Lego bricks, fostering pride in creations and encouraging sharing.
  • Creators can monetize content related to Notion, further incentivizing promotion of the platform.

Platform Risk Considerations for Content Creation

Discusses platform risks associated with creating content around specific tools or platforms.

Managing Platform Risks

  • Acknowledges platform risks such as downtime affecting product usability and customer communication.
  • Compares platform risk to rocket fuel, essential yet requiring constant evaluation and adaptation.

New Section

The speaker discusses the impermanence of content creation and the need for adaptation in creating videos.

Content Creation Challenges

  • Content becomes outdated quickly, requiring constant updates.
  • Embracing the need for reshooting tutorials and content due to changes.
  • Accepting trade-offs in content creation for a tool one is passionate about.

Adapting Video Topics

The speaker explains how he selects video topics based on personal interest and audience needs.

Selecting Video Topics

  • Focuses on personal interest over broad appeal.
  • Balances personal interests with strategic content decisions.
  • Utilizes YouTube analytics to identify viewer preferences and content gaps.

Production Strategy

Contrasting production approaches between main channel and specialized channel.

Production Approach

  • Main channel emphasizes cinematic aesthetics, while specialized channel focuses on clarity over aesthetics.
  • Specialized channel follows a templated approach for consistency in visuals and branding.

Content Evolution

Evolution of content focus from college-related topics to broader educational themes.

Evolution of Content Focus

  • Transition from college-focused content to more general educational content.
  • Shift towards individual video projects with artistic elements emphasized.

Balancing Production Quality and Educational Value

Emphasizing knowledge transfer over production quality in tutorial videos.

Balancing Quality and Education

Specificity in Content Creation

The importance of being specific in content creation to attract viewers and fulfill their needs efficiently.

Benefits of Specificity

  • Being specific reduces the effort needed to convince viewers to engage with the content.
  • Tailoring content to meet specific viewer needs increases click-through rates and engagement.
  • Specific content appeals more to audiences interested in particular tools or topics.
  • When starting a tutorials channel, focus on creating what interests you without worrying too much about immediate results.

Content Pillars for Tutorial Channels

Discussing different types of content pillars that can make tutorial channels successful in the long term.

Types of Content Pillars

  • Fundamentals pillar covers basic tool usage tutorials.
  • Build guides and tutorials pillar focuses on detailed tutorials for specific purposes.
  • Feature releases pillar highlights new tool features and updates.
  • Popcorn content pillar includes quick tips or common mistakes related to tool usage.

Long-Term View in Content Creation

Emphasizing the importance of having a long-term view when creating tutorial content for sustained success.

Key Points

  • Focus on making your channel the go-to destination for learning specific content.
  • Prioritize quality over immediate results and aim for long-term growth.

Diversifying Content Reach

Exploring strategies to broaden audience reach by creating versatile content offerings.

Strategies for Diversification

  • Utilize broader topics or tools as entry points to introduce viewers to specialized content.

Managing Your Calendar and YouTube Strategy

The speaker discusses managing calendars and YouTube strategy, focusing on attracting audiences through broader topics and the importance of audience growth.

Managing Your Calendar

  • Utilize tools like Zapier to connect Google Calendar with Notion.
  • Create videos on broader topics to attract a wider audience, introducing them to new tools like Notion.

YouTube Strategy for Tool Channels

  • Consider whether being a first mover in showcasing a tool is essential or if joining after others have momentum is better.
Video description

🎉 Get started with Notion, sign up for free or unlock AI for $10 per month: https://ntn.so/JayClouse2 Grow Your Podcast on YouTube Workshop: https://creatorscience.co/play Two years ago, Thomas Frank made the seemingly crazy decision to abandon his 2 million subscriber YouTube channel that he spent a decade of his life building to make software tutorials. His decision paid off big time. The @ThomasFrankExplains channel has grown to 220,000 subscribers, done over 10 million views, and doubled his revenue, just by teaching people how to use the productivity and note taking software, Notion. In this episode, you'll learn: •How to design the perfect viewer experience •How to think about browse views versus •Search the pros and cons of relying on outside platforms for success •And what every person starting a tutorial channel needs to do 🧰 Get My Gear List: https://creatorscience.com/toolbox 📬 Free course: https://creatorscience.com/course 🧪 Join The Lab: https://join.creatorscience.com TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Abandoning a 2 Million Sub Channel 01:17 - Thomas’s New YouTube Strategy 04:10 - Why Start a New Channel? 05:35 - Browse Views vs Search Views 08:09 - When Serving the Audience is Bad for Retention 10:11 - Our Lovely Sponsor :) 12:01 - Evaluating Platform Risk 16:14 - Permanence on YouTube 18:40 - How to Decide What Videos to Make 19:48 - How Important is Production Value 24:32 - Advice for New Tutorial Creators 30:07 - Does First Mover Advantage Matter? *** CONNECT WITH THOMAS 🌐 Website: https://thomasjfrank.com/ 🐦 Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/tomfrankly 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tomfrankly 📹 YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/@ThomasFrankExplains *** CONNECT WITH ME 🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/jayclouse 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jayclouse/ 🎵 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jayclouse 💼 LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/jayclouse *** 🙏 GUEST REQUESTS & LISTENER QUESTIONS https://podcast.creatorscience.com/request 🏁 PAST EPISODES & STARTER PLAYLISTS https://podcast.creatorscience.com/episodes https://podcast.creatorscience.com/playlists 💼 SPONSORS https://podcast.creatorscience.com/sponsors/ 💜 Leave a review on Apple Podcasts https://apple.co/3c6oN4g 🟢 Leave a rating on Spotify https://spoti.fi/3c6xpYH *** TEAM Host + Producer // Jay Clouse: https://jayclouse.com/links Editor // Conor Conaboy: https://twitter.com/conorconaboy Thumbnail Artist // Jonathan Sippel: https://twitter.com/thumbnailgrail Creator Science is part of the HubSpot Podcast Network.