How to Steal a YouTube Video (Ethically)

How to Steal a YouTube Video (Ethically)

Introduction and Channel Growth

In this section, Jamie Ross Thorne discusses the early days of the Zach and J show and how their first video gained popularity.

Channel's First Video

  • The first video filmed after announcing the channel received 400,000 views in its first month and now has over 1.4 million views.
  • This video was about participating in the Welsh tradition of bog snorkeling.
  • It served as a catalyst for the channel's growth.

Stealing Ideas

  • Jamie admits to stealing the idea for their first successful video from Yes Theory but gave it a unique twist.
  • They analyzed why that video performed well and came up with more ideas based on similar concepts.
  • They explored other unusual sports like dangerous football and cheese rolling.

YouTube Landscape Changes

Jamie discusses how YouTube has evolved as a platform since he started in 2018.

YouTube's Ambitions

  • YouTube has expanded beyond being just a video platform.
  • There is an emphasis on long-form content, targeting TV screens as their fastest-growing screen.
  • They are also competing with Twitch in live streaming and gaming content.
  • Recently, they received a $2 billion bid for their Sunday NFL ticket.

Changing Definition of YouTuber

  • Being a YouTuber now encompasses various roles beyond simply making videos.
  • The platform rewards higher quality content over having a large audience.

Algorithm Changes and Impact on Creators

Jamie explains how algorithm changes have affected creators on YouTube.

Algorithm Rewards Quality Content

  • The algorithm now favors high-quality content that generates watch time and engagement rather than solely relying on having an audience.
  • New creators can potentially go viral without spending years building an audience.
  • However, established creators must continually raise the bar and cannot become complacent.

Difficulty for New Creators

  • New creators may struggle to compete with well-resourced individuals who can invest significant funds into growing their channels.
  • Lack of experience and resources can make it challenging for new creators to create great content.

Opportunities and Challenges for Entrepreneurs

Jamie discusses how YouTube's algorithm changes have created opportunities and challenges for entrepreneurs entering the space.

Smart Entrepreneurs in the Space

  • The potential profitability of having a YouTube channel attracts smart entrepreneurs willing to invest substantial amounts of money into growing their channels.
  • This creates competition for new creators without the same level of resources or expertise.

Impact on Innovation

  • The emphasis on successful videos may reduce the incentive for creators to innovate once they find a formula that works.
  • It becomes important to balance between creating similar content that performs well and exploring new ideas.

Conclusion

Final thoughts on the impact of algorithm changes and balancing innovation on YouTube.

Double-edged Sword

  • Algorithm changes benefit new creators but may discourage innovation once a successful formula is found.
  • Finding a balance between creating popular content and pushing boundaries is crucial.

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The Impact of Innovation on YouTube Channels

This section discusses how the focus on creating viral content and sticking to successful formats can stifle creativity and limit the growth of YouTube channels.

The Stifling Effect of Low Lift Content

  • Creators often prioritize creating viral content repeatedly, which limits their ability to explore higher lift, more innovative ideas.
  • Finding a successful format leads creators to stick with it, reducing variance and potential for creative growth.

Lack of Originality in YouTube Content

  • Many creators imitate what works without adding their own unique flavor or style.
  • This imitation culture can hinder the development of diverse and original content on YouTube.

Risk of Being Ingrained in a Format

  • Creators who become too ingrained in a specific format risk burning out or losing audience interest if they try something different.
  • Examples are given of YouTubers who gained popularity through specific types of videos but struggled when attempting to diversify their content.

Ethical Ways to Incorporate Successful Video Ideas

This section explores different approaches for incorporating successful video ideas from other YouTubers while maintaining ethical practices.

Three Approaches for Incorporating Ideas Ethically

  1. Direct Extrapolation:
  • Changing one simple aspect of a video title and recreating it yourself.
  • Risky as it may be seen as copying someone else's work.
  1. Indirect Extrapolation:
  • Changing a combination of several elements from different videos.
  • Allows for more originality while still drawing inspiration from successful concepts.
  1. Abstract Extrapolation:
  • Analyzing why a particular video performed well and generating new ideas based on that analysis.
  • Focuses on understanding the underlying factors that contribute to success rather than directly copying content.

Example of Ethical Idea Incorporation

  • The Zac and J show used abstract extrapolation to create videos based on the success of Yes Theory's video about visiting an abandoned town with no laws.
  • They explored strange traditions in the UK, starting with a video about bog snorkeling, which gained significant views and engagement.
  • They then adapted the format to other unique concepts like the world's most dangerous football sport.

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In this section, the speaker discusses their approach to evaluating videos and the mistakes they made in the past.

Evaluating Videos

  • The speaker mentions that they mainly evaluated videos based on views and did not pay much attention to other metrics like attention curve.
  • Looking back, they realize that there were common errors in their videos, such as long intros, lack of tension buildup, and weak outros.
  • They admit that at the time, they didn't do much real-time analysis of their videos.
  • The speaker reflects on how important thumbnails are and mentions that it took them some time to understand their significance.
  • They highlight the importance of making thumbnails stand out and catch viewers' attention among other options on the home screen.
  • While people are putting more emphasis on thumbnails now, simplicity and visual impact still play a crucial role in attracting viewers.

New Section

In this section, the discussion revolves around whether the bar has been raised for titles and thumbnails.

Bar Raised for Titles and Thumbnails?

  • The speaker wonders if viewer expectations have increased regarding the quality of titles and thumbnails.
  • They mention seeing older videos with simple thumbnails that performed well while they put effort into creating great thumbnails without always achieving desired results.
  • The speaker believes that while people are placing more emphasis on titles and thumbnails, ultimately it comes down to catching viewers' attention with something visually appealing.
  • They mention using tools like Thumbs Up TV to compare thumbnail effectiveness across different devices.

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In this section, the speaker shares an example of a video where changing the thumbnail led to significant views.

Impact of Thumbnail Change

  • The speaker recalls a video related to Fashion Week where they initially didn't think it was good enough to upload but later decided to give it a chance.
  • Surprisingly, the video exploded in popularity and brought significant views to the channel.
  • They acknowledge that while there are certain elements that contribute to thumbnail success, there is also an element of unpredictability or "magic" that determines whether a video will go viral.

New Section

In this section, the speaker discusses the balance between optimization and simplicity when it comes to thumbnails.

Optimization and Simplicity

  • The speaker mentions working with a thumbnail expert who focuses on analytics and small improvements.
  • However, they caution against getting too caught up in data and losing sight of the simple goal of creating thumbnails that grab attention.
  • They believe that sometimes people may become overly optimized, missing out on the magic factor that can make a thumbnail successful.

New Section

In this section, the discussion revolves around whether people are too focused on optimization.

Are People Too Optimized?

  • The speaker expresses surprise at learning that their approach of evaluating videos based mainly on views was not common practice.
  • They question whether people have become too focused on optimization beyond just looking at views.
  • The speaker suggests finding a balance between analyzing data and focusing on what truly grabs viewers' attention.

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Does podcasting on YouTube work?

In this section, the speaker discusses whether podcasting on YouTube is effective and shares their thoughts on the topic.

Podcasting as a Business Model

  • The speaker believes in memberships as a sustainable way for creators to earn income directly from their audience.
  • They introduce Uscreen, an all-in-one platform that allows content creators to monetize their videos online.
  • Uscreen offers features such as private live streams, course sales, branded TV and mobile apps, payment and subscription management, and third-party integrations.
  • The speaker recommends Uscreen for coaches, authors, influencers, and entrepreneurs in various niches.

Combining Entertainment and Business

  • The speaker's background is in entertainment-style videos but now they consult with Cody Sanchez in the business realm.
  • They discuss how they merge entertainment and entrepreneurship in their content.
  • Strategies for increasing fan affinity, creating sustainable growth, finding ideas for content creation are applicable across different niches.

Growing a Channel with Podcast Interviews

  • The effectiveness of growing a channel from nothing based on podcast interviews depends on the context.
  • If the channel is solely dedicated to promoting the podcast, it can be successful.
  • However, if the channel aims to attract viewers beyond the podcast audience, clear value or narrative progression is necessary.

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  • General discussion about working on the platform
  • Introduction of Uscreen as a sponsor
  • Benefits of memberships for creators
  • Features of Uscreen platform
  • Examples of niches using Uscreen
  • Merging entertainment and business
  • Applying strategies to different niches
  • Longevity and monetization questions
  • Growing a channel with podcast interviews

New Section

This section discusses the importance of analyzing high-performing content in one's niche and brainstorming ideas for creating similar content.

Analyzing High-Performing Content

  • Viewers should analyze the highest performing content in their niche from fellow creators.
  • Look at 5 to 10 creators and identify the top 3 to 5 highest performing videos.
  • Categorize these videos into high-performing content areas.
  • Use this analysis as a starting point for brainstorming ideas for your own content.

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This section explores the considerations of monetization and shares examples of different approaches taken by popular YouTubers.

Monetization Considerations

  • Consider how you will monetize your content from the beginning.
  • Yes Theory, with eight million subscribers, faced backlash when they announced a storytelling course priced at $350. Their audience perceived it negatively as a downfall.
  • Ali Abdall, with four million subscribers, successfully sells a YouTube course priced between $2,000 to $5,000. His audience appreciates his transparency about making money from courses.

New Section

This section emphasizes building a strong relationship with the audience and offering products or services that enhance their lives.

Building Audience Relationship

  • Establish an expectation that you will offer products or services to enhance your audience's lives.
  • Focus on providing value rather than solely making money off them.
  • Start thinking about monetization early but avoid planning too much without an audience.

New Section

This section discusses the difference in audience expectations between entertainment-focused channels and educational channels.

Entertainment vs. Education

  • Yes Theory's audience is primarily interested in entertainment, and they may not be receptive to educational offerings like courses.
  • Ali Abdall's audience, on the other hand, expects and appreciates educational content and sees value in such programs.
  • Consider what your audience is coming for—entertainment or education—and tailor your offerings accordingly.

New Section

This section explores the challenges of offering products or services to a diverse YouTube subscriber base without the ability to segment them.

Challenges of Audience Segmentation

  • Unlike email marketing where segmentation is possible, YouTube does not allow segmenting subscribers.
  • It becomes challenging to offer specific products or services only to those who would be interested in them.
  • Finding alternative ways, such as using email lists, can help target specific segments within the broader subscriber base.

New Section

This section reflects on mistakes made by popular YouTubers when it comes to monetization strategies.

Learning from Mistakes

  • Yes Theory made some mistakes with their course launch that were easy to point out in retrospect.
  • Reflecting on these mistakes helps understand how to get monetization strategies right.
  • Communication with the audience through emails can be an effective way to promote products or services.

New Section

This section highlights the difference between premium information and premium entertainment as product offerings.

Premium Information vs. Premium Entertainment

  • Ali Abdall's product offering is focused on providing premium information through his courses.
  • Yes Theory's primary focus has been on providing entertaining content rather than educational offerings.
  • Setting expectations early about the type of content and products you offer is crucial for audience reception.

New Section

This section discusses the spectrum between entertainment and education in the creator world and how it impacts audience preferences.

Entertainment vs. Education Spectrum

  • There is a spectrum between entertainment-focused content and educational content in the creator world.
  • Different audiences have different preferences for entertainment or education during their viewing time.
  • Understanding your audience's expectations helps in aligning your content offerings accordingly.

New Section

This section explores the challenges of segmenting YouTube subscribers and targeting specific interest groups.

Challenges of Audience Segmentation on YouTube

  • Unlike email marketing, YouTube does not provide options to segment subscribers based on interests.
  • Sending targeted videos or promotions to specific interest groups becomes challenging.
  • Finding alternative ways, such as using external platforms like email lists, can help overcome this limitation.

The Importance of Email Strategy

This section discusses the significance of having an email strategy for content creators, particularly in relation to building a successful YouTube channel.

Email Strategy vs. Other Approaches

  • Content creators like Marie Poulin and Thomas Frank achieved success on YouTube without a specific email strategy.
  • Ron Seagal's experience with his channel Flex Academy highlights the impact of introducing a course after years of providing free design tutorials.

Entertainment Creators vs. Education Creators

  • Entertainment creators prioritize merchandising and brand deals over email newsletters and consistent posting.
  • Education creators focus on information products, affiliate revenue, and courses rather than sponsorship or physical products.
  • The best business model involves integrating various monetization strategies that align with the creator's brand.

Successful Integration of Physical Products

  • Sarah Renee Clark successfully integrated a physical product called the Color Cube into her YouTube channel, aligning perfectly with her brand.
  • Balancing entrepreneurship and video creation can be challenging, as some creators prefer focusing on building their business rather than entertaining on camera.

Avoiding Burnout as a Content Creator

This section explores strategies for preventing burnout while building a successful YouTube channel.

Expecting Burnout as a Creator

  • It is essential for every content creator to anticipate experiencing burnout at some point.
  • The interviewer seeks advice from Jay regarding how he manages multiple responsibilities such as an email newsletter, podcasts, tweets, and YouTube videos.

Coping with Burnout

  • Jay admits to currently experiencing burnout and has decided to slow down video production to prioritize quality over meeting weekly deadlines.
  • Taking time for ideation and packaging before scripting and shooting helps alleviate stress during the video production process.

The Never-Ending Scope of YouTube

This section discusses the continuous expansion of content creators' scope on YouTube and the resources required for each video.

Expanding Product Scope

  • Most YouTubers find that the scope of their product increases with each upload, making it challenging to feel satisfied.
  • Examples like Mr. Beast and the Zack and Jay show demonstrate how creators constantly strive to create bigger and more resource-intensive videos.

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New Section

The speaker discusses the difference between videos and podcasts in terms of their scope and effort required.

Videos vs Podcasts

  • Videos have unlimited scope, while podcasts are simply conversations with interesting people.
  • The quality of a podcast depends on the guests, whereas better videos usually require more effort.
  • Creators should be aware of the difference in effort required for each medium and be transparent with their audience.

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Video description

Jamie Rawsthorne is formerly half of the Zac and Jay show and is a current Youtube advisor to clients like Codie Sanchez and Morning Brew. In 2018, Zac and Jay posted "We Entered the World’s Strangest Sport," a video where they take part in the age-old Welsh tradition of bog snorkeling. That video was the catalyst for the channel's explosion, becoming one of the fastest-growing channels on YouTube. Jamie helped grow the Zac and Jay show to 900,000 subscribers…and then he left. So in this episode, you’ll learn • What’s working on YouTube today • Where YouTube is headed • How YouTubers can monetize their channel • And how to steal ideas for your own channel SPONSOR - USCREEN Create your own video membership with Uscreen: https://uscreen.link/creatorscience 🌐 Episode page: https://podcast.creatorscience.com/jamie-rawsthorne/ 📬 Newsletter: https://creatorscience.com 🧰 Get our Toolbox: https://creatorscience.com/toolbox 🧪 Join The Lab: https://join.creatorscience.com TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Steal Like a YouTuber 01:46 - How YouTube Has Changed Since 2018 04:11 - Does the Algorithm Hurt Innovation? 07:31 - How to Steal Videos Ethically 09:50 - How to Evaluate Video Performance 11:15 - Don’t Overthink Thumbnails 14:05 - Is YouTube TOO Optimized? 14:56 - Our Lovely Sponsor Uscreen 16:23 - Entertainment YouTube VS Education YouTube 17:43 - The Truth About YouTube Podcasts 19:46 - Monetization and Your Relationship with Your Audience 23:52 - All YouTubers NEED an Email List 27:05 - Dealing With Burnout *** CONNECT WITH GUEST 🌐 Website: https://www.jamierawsthorne.com/ 🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/jamierawsthorne *** CONNECT WITH ME 🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/jayclouse 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jayclouse/ 🎵 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jayclouse 💼 LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/jayclouse *** 🙏 GUEST REQUESTS & LISTENER QUESTIONS https://podcast.creatorscience.com/request 🏁 PAST EPISODES & STARTER PLAYLISTS https://podcast.creatorscience.com/episodes https://podcast.creatorscience.com/playlists 💼 SPONSORS https://podcast.creatorscience.com/sponsors/ 💜 Leave a review on Apple Podcasts https://apple.co/3c6oN4g 🟢 Leave a rating on Spotify https://spoti.fi/3c6xpYH *** TEAM Host + Producer // Jay Clouse: https://jayclouse.com/links Editor // Conor Conaboy: https://twitter.com/conorconaboy Audio Engineer // Nathan Todhunter: https://www.nathantodhunter.com/ Thumbnail Artist // Jonathan Sippel: https://twitter.com/thumbnailgrail Creator Science is part of the HubSpot Podcast Network.