How Much Muscle Can You Gain Natty Vs. Enhanced | IFBB Pro Steroid Dosages | ft. Jeff Nippard

Introduction and Variability

The speaker discusses the variability in people's ability to gain muscle naturally.

• People have different experiences with gaining muscle naturally.

• There is a need to understand the variability in muscle gain due to individual differences.

Realistic Muscle Mass Gain Naturally vs Enhanced

The speaker explains the difference between natural and enhanced muscle mass gain.

• The speaker aims to provide average ballpark numbers for natural muscle mass gain.

• Studies focus on whether dosages used in research are similar to what bodybuilders actually take.

Dosages of Testosterone

Discussion about dosages of testosterone used in studies and their classification.

• In famous studies, participants were given 600 milligrams of testosterone per week.

• Classification of dosage as high, moderate, or low depends on the context of the individual.

• For an entry-level enhanced user, 600 milligrams would be considered high.

• In a competitive environment or for pro bodybuilders, 600 milligrams would be considered low.

Different Levels of Enhancement

Explanation of different levels of enhancement and their associated dosages.

• Different levels include testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), moderate enhancement, bodybuilding cycle, and IFBB Pro level.

• TRT typically involves around 100 milligrams per week.

• Moderate enhancement may range from 150 to 200 milligrams per week.

• Dosage above 200 milligrams per week is considered enhanced territory rather than TRT.

Graded Dose Response Study

Discussion about a graded dose response study that helps understand the effects of testosterone.

• The study used a GnRH agonist to isolate the response to testosterone.

• Performance metrics showed an increase above baseline at around 125 milligrams and 300 milligrams.

• At 125 milligrams, there is a slight increase in lean body mass and performance.

• At 300 milligrams, significant increases are observed, indicating super physiological outcomes.

TRT vs High Normal Fitness Industry

Differentiating between therapeutic testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and high normal fitness industry dosages.

• TRT typically involves around 100 milligrams per week.

• Dosages above 200 milligrams per week are considered high normal or enhanced territory.

• Mislabeling TRT as low-dose steroids is common in the fitness industry.

Ranges for TRT and Enhanced Territory

Providing ranges for TRT and enhanced territory dosages.

• TRT dosage is typically around 100 milligrams per week.

• Enhanced territory or "gym bro" TRT may range from 150 to 200 milligrams per week.

• Total test levels may appear natural, but free testosterone levels will be disproportionately enhanced at higher dosages.

Line Between Enhanced Territory and Abuse

Discussion about the line between enhanced territory and abuse of testosterone dosages.

• Dosages closer to 200 milligrams per week are considered high normal or enhanced territory.

• Dosages beyond this point are generally considered abuse even by providers.

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The speaker discusses the dosage of performance-enhancing drugs for bodybuilding and the duration of cycles.

Bodybuilding Dosage

• A normal bodybuilder dose for performance-enhancing drugs varies depending on whether the individual plans to cycle off or not.

• Those who plan to stay on long-term and have competitive aspirations can start with a lower dosage, while those who cycle off may require a higher dosage.

• In general, no one would start at less than 300 mg per week, with most people taking around 500 mg per week.

• Competitive bodybuilders typically take doses in the range of 300 to 500 mg per week, but some may take more depending on their goals and other substances they use.

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The speaker explains that individuals who plan to stay on performance-enhancing drugs long-term can use lower dosages due to the blast Cruise model. He also discusses the duration of exposure during a cycle.

Blast Cruise Model and Duration of Exposure

• Individuals who plan to stay on performance-enhancing drugs long-term can use lower dosages due to the blast Cruise model.

• The duration of exposure during a cycle depends on whether an individual plans to continue using performance-enhancing drugs or not.

• Generally, people will take drugs for at least 12 weeks, especially when using longer esters like testosterone enanthate or cypionate.

• Longer esters allow for less frequent injections (twice a week) compared to daily injections with shorter esters.

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The speaker discusses how individuals determine their off time after a cycle and mentions that newbies typically follow an arbitrary rule of time on equals time off.

Off Time After Cycle

• People often follow an arbitrary rule where the off time after a cycle is equal to the time spent on the cycle.

• For example, if someone takes performance-enhancing drugs for 12 weeks, they may take an equal amount of time off before starting another cycle.

• Newbies getting into performance-enhancing drugs often follow a pattern of 12 weeks on and 12 weeks off, although it may not be optimal.

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Different Dosages in Testosterone Replacement Therapy (TRT)

This section focuses on different dosages used in testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and other related treatments.

Dosage Levels

• Therapeutic TRT typically involves around 100 milligrams per week.

• Fitness TRT or sports TRT usually ranges from 150 to 200 milligrams per week.

• Entry-level bodybuilding cycles often involve dosages between 300 and 500 milligrams per week.

• Professional bodybuilders may use dosages as high as 5000 milligrams per week, particularly during contest preparation.

Individual Variability in Steroid Response

This section discusses the individual variability in response to anabolic androgenic steroids.

Individual Variability

• Even with the same dosage, individuals can have different responses to steroids.

• Factors such as transcriptional activity and receptor interaction contribute to the variability.

• Some individuals may require higher dosages to achieve desired outcomes compared to others.

Dosage Levels for Enhanced Performance

This section explores dosage levels associated with enhanced performance in bodybuilding.

Dosage Levels for Enhanced Performance

• Dosages of 300 milligrams or higher are considered to be in the enhanced territory for performance enhancement.

• At 500 to 600 milligrams per week, it represents entry-level bodybuilder cycle territory.

• Professional bodybuilders may use even higher dosages during contest preparation, reaching up to 3000 or 4000 milligrams per week.

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In this section, the speaker discusses the dosage of anabolic substances and their potential for abuse.

Dosage and Abuse

• The speaker states that a dosage of 300 milligrams or more per week is considered abusive territory for anabolic substances.

• It is suggested that enhanced-looking outcomes start to occur at this dosage level.

• The speaker mentions that most people would agree with this assessment.

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In this section, the speaker explores why some individuals may take higher dosages of anabolic substances despite the risks involved.

Risk vs Reward

• The speaker questions why someone would risk the health effects of taking five grams per week when enhanced results can already be achieved with 300 milligrams.

• It is speculated whether individuals who require higher dosages have lower receptor affinity or different genetics.

• The speaker acknowledges that it may sound extreme and wonders about the reasons behind such high dosages.

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This section focuses on understanding the purpose behind specific dosages in bodybuilding.

Minimum Effective Dose

• The speaker explains that when discussing dosages, it does not mean taking them to achieve a specific outcome.

• Instead, it is about taking the minimum effective dose to yield progress while considering individual goals.

• Dosage adjustments are made based on progress and competition requirements.

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Here, the speaker discusses how individuals may need to increase their dosage over time to continue making progress in bodybuilding.

Progression and Genetic Factors

• As individuals progress in bodybuilding, they may need to increase their dosage to maintain competitiveness relative to others.

• Genetic factors play a role in determining individual responses and required dosages.

• Some individuals may need significantly higher dosages to achieve similar outcomes as others.

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This section explores the potential genetic range in response to anabolic substances.

Genetic Variability

• The speaker highlights that there is a wide genetic range in natural bodybuilding.

• Similarly, there is likely an equally or even bigger genetic range in how individuals respond to anabolic substances.

• Some people experience linear growth on anabolics for years, while others hit a plateau and struggle to make significant progress.

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In this section, the speaker discusses how plateaus can occur in both natural and enhanced bodybuilding.

Plateaus and Progress

• Plateaus are not exclusive to natural bodybuilding; they also occur in enhanced bodybuilding.

• Some individuals experience rapid gains initially but then reach a point where progress stagnates.

• Even with optimized training and lifestyle factors, some individuals struggle to break through plateaus.

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Here, the speaker explains how plateaus can be overcome by adjusting food intake or drug response.

Overcoming Plateaus

• Plateaus can be due to limitations in food intake or appetite, preventing sustained growth.

• Increasing food intake or addressing drug response issues can help break through plateaus.

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This section focuses on the expected muscle mass gains naturally and with the use of steroids.

Natural vs Steroid Gains

• On average, most guys can put on 20 to 40 pounds of pure muscle mass naturally.

• With the use of steroids, it is possible to double those gains and add another 20 to 40 pounds.

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The speaker discusses how some individuals may respond exceptionally well to anabolic substances.

Exceptional Responders

• Some individuals have genetics that allow them to triple their gains when using anabolic substances.

• An example is given of a bodybuilder who experienced significant gains after turning to enhanced methods.

• Height can also play a role, with taller individuals potentially gaining more lean mass on top of their natural potential.

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In this section, the speaker provides examples of bodybuilders and their gains as evidence for genetic factors in muscle growth.

Examples of Genetic Factors

• The speaker mentions Chris Bumstead as an example of someone with impressive genetics.

• Despite being a natural bodybuilder, Chris did not gain significantly more weight when compared to his enhanced state.

• This suggests that genetic factors can influence the extent of muscle gains even with the use of steroids.

Training and Competing in Bodybuilding

The speaker discusses the training and competition aspects of bodybuilding, considering factors such as weight gain, autoimmune disease, and genetic advantages.

Sebum's Training and Weight Gain

• Sebum likely isn't taking an excessive amount of substances due to his autoimmune disease.

• He initially gained around 30 pounds during his training.

Competing Against Genetically Inferior Individuals

• People who are genetically inferior from a muscle-building standpoint often take more substances to compensate.

• This is common among individuals competing against genetically blessed athletes.

Speaker's Interest in Bodybuilding

• The speaker finds bodybuilding interesting and has some knowledge about it from conversations at the gym.

• However, there may be many more questions that could be asked on this topic.